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Anonymous wrote:Every fed on this board bitches and moans about going to the office and that everyone should telework from home because going in in so 1990s. Until the prospect of moving the agencies crops up. Now everyone needs to be together because there is sooooooo much interaction.

I guess telework isn't practical and those of you who do are fleecing the taxpayer and really ought to be canned.

Hot take. +1

So we should be punished with a move to the rust belt? I do not understand the logic. Telework actually does work in many situations. I love it as it is the only day where I can sit and focus on producing work, rather than getting pulled into meetings and having people swing by ask ask questions on stuff (also work, but I also need to do stuff like write and do budgets that requires longer term focus)

Didn't say only the Midwest. Just anywhere but DC-VA. It's a coastal elite echo chamber bubble. People here don't understand what he rest of the country is like. And there's too much tax payer funded wealth concentrated here. It's out of control -- last 20 years especially.

Did you see the earlier post that said 86% of federal jobs are not in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:And you wonder why HRC lost Michigan. All those dumb fuck UofM grads. And MSU may not be Ivy, but it graduates some smart people. Chicago and Northwestern are 150 miles away.

God you people are assholes. And oblivious to that fact.

And, it does happen that quite a few of those people who went to the almighty Ivy actually came from the middle.

I'm one of them. But it's still a really stupid idea to move the fed agencies out. Transactions costs on it are huge, you would lose your best employees because we are the ones who would have no trouble finding jobs that allow us to stay where our families are rooted and our spouses are employed. It's nothing but spiteful stupidity.

Agreed. The smartest and best would just find something else to do rather than live on fly over country (many of us fled to D.C. From those shitholes after college). There would not be enough educated or experienced people outside the area to effectively run the government.

Keep in mind. They almost bankrupted the auto industry and made it the rust belt because of their inability to adapt and change to the market needs. Sounds like another kind worse kind of swamp to me.

Lol @ "smartest and best" bureaucrats. If you could do better you'd do better.

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Anonymous wrote:Every fed on this board bitches and moans about going to the office and that everyone should telework from home because going in in so 1990s. Until the prospect of moving the agencies crops up. Now everyone needs to be together because there is sooooooo much interaction.

I guess telework isn't practical and those of you who do are fleecing the taxpayer and really ought to be canned.

Hot take. +1

So we should be punished with a move to the rust belt? I do not understand the logic. Telework actually does work in many situations. I love it as it is the only day where I can sit and focus on producing work, rather than getting pulled into meetings and having people swing by ask ask questions on stuff (also work, but I also need to do stuff like write and do budgets that requires longer term focus)

Didn't say only the Midwest. Just anywhere but DC-VA. It's a coastal elite echo chamber bubble. People here don't understand what he rest of the country is like. And there's too much tax payer funded wealth concentrated here. It's out of control -- last 20 years especially.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every fed on this board bitches and moans about going to the office and that everyone should telework from home because going in in so 1990s. Until the prospect of moving the agencies crops up. Now everyone needs to be together because there is sooooooo much interaction.

I guess telework isn't practical and those of you who do are fleecing the taxpayer and really ought to be canned.

Hot take. +1

So we should be punished with a move to the rust belt? I do not understand the logic. Telework actually does work in many situations. I love it as it is the only day where I can sit and focus on producing work, rather than getting pulled into meetings and having people swing by ask ask questions on stuff (also work, but I also need to do stuff like write and do budgets that requires longer term focus)

Didn't say only the Midwest. Just anywhere but DC-VA. It's a coastal elite echo chamber bubble. People here don't understand what he rest of the country is like. And there's too much tax payer funded wealth concentrated here. It's out of control -- last 20 years especially.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every fed on this board bitches and moans about going to the office and that everyone should telework from home because going in in so 1990s. Until the prospect of moving the agencies crops up. Now everyone needs to be together because there is sooooooo much interaction.

I guess telework isn't practical and those of you who do are fleecing the taxpayer and really ought to be canned.

Hot take. +1

So we should be punished with a move to the rust belt? I do not understand the logic. Telework actually does work in many situations. I love it as it is the only day where I can sit and focus on producing work, rather than getting pulled into meetings and having people swing by ask ask questions on stuff (also work, but I also need to do stuff like write and do budgets that requires longer term focus)

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Anonymous wrote:And you wonder why HRC lost Michigan. All those dumb fuck UofM grads. And MSU may not be Ivy, but it graduates some smart people. Chicago and Northwestern are 150 miles away.

God you people are assholes. And oblivious to that fact.

And, it does happen that quite a few of those people who went to the almighty Ivy actually came from the middle.

I'm one of them. But it's still a really stupid idea to move the fed agencies out. Transactions costs on it are huge, you would lose your best employees because we are the ones who would have no trouble finding jobs that allow us to stay where our families are rooted and our spouses are employed. It's nothing but spiteful stupidity.

Agreed. The smartest and best would just find something else to do rather than live on fly over country (many of us fled to D.C. From those shitholes after college). There would not be enough educated or experienced people outside the area to effectively run the government.

Keep in mind. They almost bankrupted the auto industry and made it the rust belt because of their inability to adapt and change to the market needs. Sounds like another kind worse kind of swamp to me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And you wonder why HRC lost Michigan. All those dumb fuck UofM grads. And MSU may not be Ivy, but it graduates some smart people. Chicago and Northwestern are 150 miles away.

God you people are assholes. And oblivious to that fact.

And, it does happen that quite a few of those people who went to the almighty Ivy actually came from the middle.

I'm one of them. But it's still a really stupid idea to move the fed agencies out. Transactions costs on it are huge, you would lose your best employees because we are the ones who would have no trouble finding jobs that allow us to stay where our families are rooted and our spouses are employed. It's nothing but spiteful stupidity.

Agreed. The smartest and best would just find something else to do rather than live on fly over country (many of us fled to D.C. From those shitholes after college). There would not be enough educated or experienced people outside the area to effectively run the government.

Keep in mind. They almost bankrupted the auto industry and made it the rust belt because of their inability to adapt and change to the market needs. Sounds like another kind worse kind of swamp to me.

+1 - we all worked hard and got out of those places, why send people back to cultural and educational black holes? Bring down the whole country to the lowest common denominator.

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Anonymous wrote:Every fed on this board bitches and moans about going to the office and that everyone should telework from home because going in in so 1990s. Until the prospect of moving the agencies crops up. Now everyone needs to be together because there is sooooooo much interaction.

I guess telework isn't practical and those of you who do are fleecing the taxpayer and really ought to be canned.

Hot take. +1

Anonymous wrote:Every fed on this board bitches and moans about going to the office and that everyone should telework from home because going in in so 1990s. Until the prospect of moving the agencies crops up. Now everyone needs to be together because there is sooooooo much interaction.

I guess telework isn't practical and those of you who do are fleecing the taxpayer and really ought to be canned.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you know most federal jobs are already outside Washington DC, right?

This. I hate to burst OP's bubble with facts but 14% of federal employees work in the entire DC region, 86% are around the world. There are nearly as many civilians in Texas or California as there are in DC. DOD civilians and VA staff account for over half of all civil servants, they are working on bases and in VA hospitals around the country and world. What remains in DC is mostly headquarters, which makes sense for any large organization to be co-located.

I know you are a fed and all that, but you do understand that the population of Texas and California are multiples higher than the population of DC

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Anonymous wrote:Missile defense agency was moved to AL. It survived. In fact major contractors opened offices there too.

Is that an USG agency? Never heard of it.

Pp is full of crap. MDA is still headquartered at Ft Belvoir. It's a military agency.

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Anonymous wrote:Missile defense agency was moved to AL. It survived. In fact major contractors opened offices there too.

Is that an USG agency? Never heard of it.

Anonymous wrote:Missile defense agency was moved to AL. It survived. In fact major contractors opened offices there too.

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Anonymous wrote:Bueuracratic wealth? When was the last time you looked at the usg pay scale. The money is the lobbiests.

Considerably better than average income of $51,000

That includes unemployment and day labor type jobs. The DC are has a very high concentration of people with college degree that take white collar jobs. They would inherently pay more than most other industries. This is why the average income here is higher, better educated people tend to find jobs that pay more.