Anonymous
12/25/2016 12:44
Subject: In pool?
If a child gets a 141 after studying for the cogat they will do just fine in aap.
Anonymous
12/25/2016 09:04
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:Why not admit it on the AAP parental form: something like, my child demonstrated that DC has the work ethic: he studied for the cogat, which allowed him to score 141. Why don't you do it? Because you know it is WRONG.
Because it would be stupid and unnecessary. Stop pretending you're the moral center of the universe.
Never said that, but I do not support cheating. And this is cheating over something trivial. What happens at TJ? the tutors...then college....then flunking out....
Anonymous
12/25/2016 01:06
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:Why not admit it on the AAP parental form: something like, my child demonstrated that DC has the work ethic: he studied for the cogat, which allowed him to score 141. Why don't you do it? Because you know it is WRONG.
Because it would be stupid and unnecessary. Stop pretending you're the moral center of the universe.
New poster here: yes, no one would admit it on the form but we all know it is done to try to cheat the system. The point about suggesting one put it on the form is to those who try to say it isn't cheating because:
They only went over a few test problems shortly before the test
The school goes over sample problems, too.
People prepare for the SATs, LSATs, MCATs, etc.
my kid hasn't taken a test like this so I just want to familiarize him with it a little.
Etc.
Anonymous
12/24/2016 22:59
Subject: Re:In pool?
Why not admit it on the AAP parental form: something like, my child demonstrated that DC has the work ethic: he studied for the cogat, which allowed him to score 141. Why don't you do it? Because you know it is WRONG.
Because it would be stupid and unnecessary. Stop pretending you're the moral center of the universe.
Anonymous
12/24/2016 11:12
Subject: In pool?
Let's be clear- so many kids are admitted that the on the bubble kid will do just fine. If they took many fewer kids it wouldn't be aug an ordeal.
Anonymous
12/21/2016 08:15
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's the big concern if a kids gets in by cheating? As long as my kid is where they're supposed to be, in AAP or not, I don't really care. That kids is not a taking a spot away from other kids, as there isn't a set number of acceptances. He's the one who will suffer if he can't keep up.
It's not cheating to run through a practice test. Cheating implies you are breaking a formal rule. There is no formal rule against practice tests. These statements on DCUM are opinions only. End of story.
Teachers also go through practice exams at school prior to the exam.
No, they go through very easy examples to ensure the kids fill the bubbles in, understand what is expected of them, etc. the examples will not give a kid an edge. If showing a kid a test book ahead of time meant nothing then why is it prohibited to give the same test within a year?
Why not admit it on the AAP parental form: something like, my child demonstrated that DC has the work ethic: he studied for the cogat, which allowed him to score 141. Why don't you do it? Because you know it is WRONG.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 23:24
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's the big concern if a kids gets in by cheating? As long as my kid is where they're supposed to be, in AAP or not, I don't really care. That kids is not a taking a spot away from other kids, as there isn't a set number of acceptances. He's the one who will suffer if he can't keep up.
It's not cheating to run through a practice test. Cheating implies you are breaking a formal rule. There is no formal rule against practice tests. These statements on DCUM are opinions only. End of story.
Teachers also go through practice exams at school prior to the exam.
No, they go through very easy examples to ensure the kids fill the bubbles in, understand what is expected of them, etc. the examples will not give a kid an edge. If showing a kid a test book ahead of time meant nothing then why is it prohibited to give the same test within a year?
Anonymous
12/20/2016 21:44
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's the big concern if a kids gets in by cheating? As long as my kid is where they're supposed to be, in AAP or not, I don't really care. That kids is not a taking a spot away from other kids, as there isn't a set number of acceptances. He's the one who will suffer if he can't keep up.
It's not cheating to run through a practice test. Cheating implies you are breaking a formal rule. There is no formal rule against practice tests. These statements on DCUM are opinions only. End of story.
Teachers also go through practice exams at school prior to the exam.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 19:37
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:So, what's the big concern if a kids gets in by cheating? As long as my kid is where they're supposed to be, in AAP or not, I don't really care. That kids is not a taking a spot away from other kids, as there isn't a set number of acceptances. He's the one who will suffer if he can't keep up.
It's not cheating to run through a practice test. Cheating implies you are breaking a formal rule. There is no formal rule against practice tests. These statements on DCUM are opinions only. End of story.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 13:42
Subject: Re:In pool?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, what's the big concern if a kids gets in by cheating? As long as my kid is where they're supposed to be, in AAP or not, I don't really care. That kids is not a taking a spot away from other kids, as there isn't a set number of acceptances. He's the one who will suffer if he can't keep up.
Your child is not alone. Do you want your child to be surrounded by a bunch of cheaters? What if they become friends and little by little, everyone's concept of what is acceptable behavior within the community erodes. Too many parents caring only that their child gets what he/she deserves ( or what the parent thinks the kid deserves) is how we've gotten into the situation we have with AAP in this county.
Also, the cheater might not be taking a spot from anyone since there are apparently unlimited seats for AAP students, but over time that is what has inflated the program beyond all reason and led to the destruction of local school communities. And to what end? From what I've seen with kids now in college (both in gifted programs and not), all this ridiculous sorting at age 7 and 8, is a lot of disruption for little payoff.
+1 The selfishness of many in the AAP set is appalling. It's easy to understand why these threads get hijacked.
How about just waiting until the school informs you whether or not your child is in the pool? What would be different if you knew now?
Anonymous
12/19/2016 23:05
Subject: Re:In pool?
Wow, this thread got hijacked