Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I must say it's interesting that all my white relatives, of varying income and education levels, rail against low income black people and other minorities and ask, "what about personal responsibility?"
Yet apparently unemployed whites in the rust belt don't have to be personally responsible for their fate.
Why didn't they move to farm country and take the $10/hr jobs that are offered to American workers? Americans used to move to where the jobs are. Now, they just sit on their asses and complain about how the government doesn't bring them jobs.
The Great Recession changed people's moving rates. If you think people aren't still scared, then I assume you don't know anyone affected by the Great Depression.
The Great Depression saw lots of people moving for jobs, and it was a damn hell harder to move back then than it is today. Spare me the "you don't know what it's like". My father was a blue collar worker in a manufacturing plant who got laid off; I also at one point got laid off. Neither of us blamed the government. We updated our skills and found a new job. That's called personal responsibility. Oh, and he had limited English skills, to boot.
Thank you. I'm black and my dad had a 3rd grade education. You know what, he didn't blame anyone. He sent his kids to college. My parents SOLD THEIR HOUSE to send me to college. They made a huge sacrifice. Poor white folks need to make the same sacrifices. Stop playing the victim card.
Now that my parents made the sacrifice, I am a lawyer and I will enjoy reading the classics and enjoying fine wine
That sounds a bit discriminatory against whites TBH. Do you know a lot of poor white people? How are you so certain that they suck so much more than poor non-white people as a rule? Are you genuinely unfamiliar with minorities who play the victim?
You honestly seem kinda privileged. No one paid my way through college or law school but me.
FWIW, I paid my own way through law school. My parents sold their house. Could your parents have sold theirs? My parents thought the sacrifice was worth it. They didn't ask for anything, including from the government - through student loans. Oh, and I did work in college. I am privileged, but because my parents sacrificed and told me to excel in school. They didn't sit around waiting for the government to get them jobs and save them from their poor educations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.
Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.
Garrison Keillor has said it best:
We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.
I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.
I am actually sick of hearing the people in red states being called uneducated. The entire USA is red, except for the larger cities. Not having a college degree, is not equal to uneducated and I am sure there are plenty of college educated people in the red states. College education gives you a job,that is pretty much it! Why are 18 yrs old's allowed to vote if they are not smart enough to elect a president without a college education? This is America. There shouldn't be uneducated people in this country. Then that is our biggest problem, which has not been fixed but all the "great" presidents we have had so far. Stop calling people uneducated.
This rant pretty much exemplifies why people need an education - half of it was unintelligible.
DP. No it wasn't. Your laugh-and-point attitude lost you one election. How many more you wanna lose?
You don't get it do you? Yes, my candidate lost the election but I'm laughing to the bank either way. My taxes are going to be lower, I'm still living in the city of my dreams, and you know what...maybe I'll even watch the orange demon at the inauguration. It's all gravy and when the next election comes around I'll put my money into an actual dem candidate chosen by the people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.
Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.
Garrison Keillor has said it best:
We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.
I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.
I am actually sick of hearing the people in red states being called uneducated. The entire USA is red, except for the larger cities. Not having a college degree, is not equal to uneducated and I am sure there are plenty of college educated people in the red states. College education gives you a job,that is pretty much it! Why are 18 yrs old's allowed to vote if they are not smart enough to elect a president without a college education? This is America. There shouldn't be uneducated people in this country. Then that is our biggest problem, which has not been fixed but all the "great" presidents we have had so far. Stop calling people uneducated.
This rant pretty much exemplifies why people need an education - half of it was unintelligible.
DP. No it wasn't. Your laugh-and-point attitude lost you one election. How many more you wanna lose?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I must say it's interesting that all my white relatives, of varying income and education levels, rail against low income black people and other minorities and ask, "what about personal responsibility?"
Yet apparently unemployed whites in the rust belt don't have to be personally responsible for their fate.
Why didn't they move to farm country and take the $10/hr jobs that are offered to American workers? Americans used to move to where the jobs are. Now, they just sit on their asses and complain about how the government doesn't bring them jobs.
The Great Recession changed people's moving rates. If you think people aren't still scared, then I assume you don't know anyone affected by the Great Depression.
The Great Depression saw lots of people moving for jobs, and it was a damn hell harder to move back then than it is today. Spare me the "you don't know what it's like". My father was a blue collar worker in a manufacturing plant who got laid off; I also at one point got laid off. Neither of us blamed the government. We updated our skills and found a new job. That's called personal responsibility. Oh, and he had limited English skills, to boot.
Thank you. I'm black and my dad had a 3rd grade education. You know what, he didn't blame anyone. He sent his kids to college. My parents SOLD THEIR HOUSE to send me to college. They made a huge sacrifice. Poor white folks need to make the same sacrifices. Stop playing the victim card.
Now that my parents made the sacrifice, I am a lawyer and I will enjoy reading the classics and enjoying fine wine
That sounds a bit discriminatory against whites TBH. Do you know a lot of poor white people? How are you so certain that they suck so much more than poor non-white people as a rule? Are you genuinely unfamiliar with minorities who play the victim?
You honestly seem kinda privileged. No one paid my way through college or law school but me.
FWIW, I paid my own way through law school. My parents sold their house. Could your parents have sold theirs? My parents thought the sacrifice was worth it. They didn't ask for anything, including from the government - through student loans. Oh, and I did work in college. I am privileged, but because my parents sacrificed and told me to excel in school. They didn't sit around waiting for the government to get them jobs and save them from their poor educations.
Sorry, PP, allowing your parents to sell their house in order to pay for your college degree is nuts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you don't care about them.
You hoarded all the country's assets and wealth for yourselves.
This is why Trump won.
AHAHAHA? We did, did we? Dude I 'only' make 120K a year. Guess at the net worth of the man you elected? And his friends. Oh, this is going to be a fun four years. Never did I think the Tea Party would do a 180 and elect a Manhattan billionaire.
To the person who only makes 120K a year -- you live in a bubble if you think this is a small salary. Get out of Wash DC. In the rest of America, that is a very high salary.
Is it? Have you looked at Trump's tax plan? My HHI is $540K. Trump eliminates the AMT and our tax rate will be reduced. I told my husband and he jumped for joy. Thanks TRUMP!!! Oh, for all you middle class suckers, you don't really get a cut. Trump will literally save me thousands of dollars. No, I don't create jobs, but I will enjoy some extra vacations.
I voted for HRC, but now I'll just take my money and let middle america suffer. I don't care.
This here is a true HRC-style Dem. If they don't get their way, they stop caring about the suffering of the less fortunate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you don't care about them.
You hoarded all the country's assets and wealth for yourselves.
This is why Trump won.
AHAHAHA? We did, did we? Dude I 'only' make 120K a year. Guess at the net worth of the man you elected? And his friends. Oh, this is going to be a fun four years. Never did I think the Tea Party would do a 180 and elect a Manhattan billionaire.
To the person who only makes 120K a year -- you live in a bubble if you think this is a small salary. Get out of Wash DC. In the rest of America, that is a very high salary.
Is it? Have you looked at Trump's tax plan? My HHI is $540K. Trump eliminates the AMT and our tax rate will be reduced. I told my husband and he jumped for joy. Thanks TRUMP!!! Oh, for all you middle class suckers, you don't really get a cut. Trump will literally save me thousands of dollars. No, I don't create jobs, but I will enjoy some extra vacations.
I voted for HRC, but now I'll just take my money and let middle america suffer. I don't care.
And? Trump voters still won. You seem to be listing your HHI as if to make yourself feel better that you lost. Take your money and spend it all on handcrafted cat figurines, for all anyone cares. It has zero to do with Trump winning and the Trump voters that put him there.
It has everything to do with Trump winning. I'm saying thank you to Trump supporters. I will have tons more and most of the people who voted for Trump won't. I'm just pointing out that his tax plan helps people who already have money, but does very little for those who need the extra help.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you don't care about them.
You hoarded all the country's assets and wealth for yourselves.
This is why Trump won.
AHAHAHA? We did, did we? Dude I 'only' make 120K a year. Guess at the net worth of the man you elected? And his friends. Oh, this is going to be a fun four years. Never did I think the Tea Party would do a 180 and elect a Manhattan billionaire.
To the person who only makes 120K a year -- you live in a bubble if you think this is a small salary. Get out of Wash DC. In the rest of America, that is a very high salary.
Is it? Have you looked at Trump's tax plan? My HHI is $540K. Trump eliminates the AMT and our tax rate will be reduced. I told my husband and he jumped for joy. Thanks TRUMP!!! Oh, for all you middle class suckers, you don't really get a cut. Trump will literally save me thousands of dollars. No, I don't create jobs, but I will enjoy some extra vacations.
I voted for HRC, but now I'll just take my money and let middle america suffer. I don't care.
And? Trump voters still won. You seem to be listing your HHI as if to make yourself feel better that you lost. Take your money and spend it all on handcrafted cat figurines, for all anyone cares. It has zero to do with Trump winning and the Trump voters that put him there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you don't care about them.
You hoarded all the country's assets and wealth for yourselves.
This is why Trump won.
AHAHAHA? We did, did we? Dude I 'only' make 120K a year. Guess at the net worth of the man you elected? And his friends. Oh, this is going to be a fun four years. Never did I think the Tea Party would do a 180 and elect a Manhattan billionaire.
To the person who only makes 120K a year -- you live in a bubble if you think this is a small salary. Get out of Wash DC. In the rest of America, that is a very high salary.
Is it? Have you looked at Trump's tax plan? My HHI is $540K. Trump eliminates the AMT and our tax rate will be reduced. I told my husband and he jumped for joy. Thanks TRUMP!!! Oh, for all you middle class suckers, you don't really get a cut. Trump will literally save me thousands of dollars. No, I don't create jobs, but I will enjoy some extra vacations.
I voted for HRC, but now I'll just take my money and let middle america suffer. I don't care.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.
Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.
Garrison Keillor has said it best:
We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.
I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.
I am actually sick of hearing the people in red states being called uneducated. The entire USA is red, except for the larger cities. Not having a college degree, is not equal to uneducated and I am sure there are plenty of college educated people in the red states. College education gives you a job,that is pretty much it! Why are 18 yrs old's allowed to vote if they are not smart enough to elect a president without a college education? This is America. There shouldn't be uneducated people in this country. Then that is our biggest problem, which has not been fixed but all the "great" presidents we have had so far. Stop calling people uneducated.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.
Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.
Garrison Keillor has said it best:
We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.
I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.
It is true. We tried to be good. We tried to help them. Now, let's just enjoy how fabulously wealthy we will be with all those tax cuts, have great meals, enjoy the arts, and hang out in trendy cafes.
+1
I am a big supporter of ACA or at least keeping it and fixing the issues. I have been paying 30 to 33% in taxes for the past 10 yrs which has been supporting many of our veterans, schools, some of the Trump supporters.
Now, I'll enjoy my tax cuts and lower healthcare premiums. I will spend my money on vacations overseas. I will do what Trump supporters have been asking for - let Trump's government deal with it all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I must say it's interesting that all my white relatives, of varying income and education levels, rail against low income black people and other minorities and ask, "what about personal responsibility?"
Yet apparently unemployed whites in the rust belt don't have to be personally responsible for their fate.
Why didn't they move to farm country and take the $10/hr jobs that are offered to American workers? Americans used to move to where the jobs are. Now, they just sit on their asses and complain about how the government doesn't bring them jobs.
The Great Recession changed people's moving rates. If you think people aren't still scared, then I assume you don't know anyone affected by the Great Depression.
The Great Depression saw lots of people moving for jobs, and it was a damn hell harder to move back then than it is today. Spare me the "you don't know what it's like". My father was a blue collar worker in a manufacturing plant who got laid off; I also at one point got laid off. Neither of us blamed the government. We updated our skills and found a new job. That's called personal responsibility. Oh, and he had limited English skills, to boot.
Thank you. I'm black and my dad had a 3rd grade education. You know what, he didn't blame anyone. He sent his kids to college. My parents SOLD THEIR HOUSE to send me to college. They made a huge sacrifice. Poor white folks need to make the same sacrifices. Stop playing the victim card.
Now that my parents made the sacrifice, I am a lawyer and I will enjoy reading the classics and enjoying fine wine
That sounds a bit discriminatory against whites TBH. Do you know a lot of poor white people? How are you so certain that they suck so much more than poor non-white people as a rule? Are you genuinely unfamiliar with minorities who play the victim?
You honestly seem kinda privileged. No one paid my way through college or law school but me.
FWIW, I paid my own way through law school. My parents sold their house. Could your parents have sold theirs? My parents thought the sacrifice was worth it. They didn't ask for anything, including from the government - through student loans. Oh, and I did work in college. I am privileged, but because my parents sacrificed and told me to excel in school. They didn't sit around waiting for the government to get them jobs and save them from their poor educations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.
Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.
Garrison Keillor has said it best:
We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.
I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.
I am actually sick of hearing the people in red states being called uneducated. The entire USA is red, except for the larger cities. Not having a college degree, is not equal to uneducated and I am sure there are plenty of college educated people in the red states. College education gives you a job,that is pretty much it! Why are 18 yrs old's allowed to vote if they are not smart enough to elect a president without a college education? This is America. There shouldn't be uneducated people in this country. Then that is our biggest problem, which has not been fixed but all the "great" presidents we have had so far. Stop calling people uneducated.
This rant pretty much exemplifies why people need an education - half of it was unintelligible.
DP. No it wasn't. Your laugh-and-point attitude lost you one election. How many more you wanna lose?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I must say it's interesting that all my white relatives, of varying income and education levels, rail against low income black people and other minorities and ask, "what about personal responsibility?"
Yet apparently unemployed whites in the rust belt don't have to be personally responsible for their fate.
Same reason the heroin and crack epidemics that are plaguing white communities right now were not worth addressing 15-20 years ago. Instead it was 'throw the users in jail'. Now its 'save my baby'. The hypocrisy is amazing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I must say it's interesting that all my white relatives, of varying income and education levels, rail against low income black people and other minorities and ask, "what about personal responsibility?"
Yet apparently unemployed whites in the rust belt don't have to be personally responsible for their fate.
Why didn't they move to farm country and take the $10/hr jobs that are offered to American workers? Americans used to move to where the jobs are. Now, they just sit on their asses and complain about how the government doesn't bring them jobs.
The Great Recession changed people's moving rates. If you think people aren't still scared, then I assume you don't know anyone affected by the Great Depression.
The Great Depression saw lots of people moving for jobs, and it was a damn hell harder to move back then than it is today. Spare me the "you don't know what it's like". My father was a blue collar worker in a manufacturing plant who got laid off; I also at one point got laid off. Neither of us blamed the government. We updated our skills and found a new job. That's called personal responsibility. Oh, and he had limited English skills, to boot.
Thank you. I'm black and my dad had a 3rd grade education. You know what, he didn't blame anyone. He sent his kids to college. My parents SOLD THEIR HOUSE to send me to college. They made a huge sacrifice. Poor white folks need to make the same sacrifices. Stop playing the victim card.
Now that my parents made the sacrifice, I am a lawyer and I will enjoy reading the classics and enjoying fine wine
That sounds a bit discriminatory against whites TBH. Do you know a lot of poor white people? How are you so certain that they suck so much more than poor non-white people as a rule? Are you genuinely unfamiliar with minorities who play the victim?
You honestly seem kinda privileged. No one paid my way through college or law school but me.