Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 12:07     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I, a woman, may not be able to get married to a woman if I ever find The One.

We may not be allowed to adopt (Pence has said he is completely against gay couples adopting). Insurance may not cover any kind of IVF.

Women still won't make as much money as men.


Awesome! Hope all that comes true.


You hope that I won't be allowed to marry the person I love, adopt a child in need of a family, and will make less money than men do? May I ask why?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:59     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None. Absolutely none. The over-the-top end of the world nonesense is much more dangerous. Trump would never have been my choice. But he isn't going to destroy the country. His ego alone may make him a decent President. 2020 will be here in four short years. Hopefully the Democratic Party had learned that you can't just shove an unelectable candidate down the throats of voters and hope it gets better.[u]


Sigh, I hope they learned something.


shut the fuck up, hillary won the popular vote!


Grabbing this from another thread:

Barely. Looks like by a margin of 150,000.

Obama got 10,000,000 more votes than McCain. Bush trounced Kerry by 3,000,000. Al Gore got 500,000 more votes than Bush.

WHY WAS THIS EVEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF CLOSE?!

How does someone who has 20 years of electoral experience over a candidate of ZERO, someone with more political money than god, someone with the best (and to be honest even more popular than her) surrogates ever, loose so badly?

This was a ridiculous shitshow of a candidacy. Biden would have trounced that orange.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:59     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:Nationally-recognized authority Ilya Shapiro is speaking on CNN, right now.

He's correctly predicted that the S.Ct. will be highly unlikely to overturn Roe or the precedents on marriage equality.

Calm down folks.



Agreed. "You will be pregnant and forced to have a baby!!" is the silliest yet somehow resilient D message.

And if you're stupid enough to believe it...
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:59     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would guess people are mostly concerned about Trump appointing pro-life justices to the Supreme Court, and an eventual ruling banning abortion.


Did he ever say he wanted to ban all abortion? I know he is against late term abortion as are most people.

How can you not remember that, during an interview, he advocated for an abortion ban WITH 'Some Form of Punishment' for women who get them illegally.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:59     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
That's just not true. But okay - go ahead and believe that there won't be any backlash against women. Right.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:58     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
I call troll
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:57     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:Please, people.
None of your rights will be taken away. NONE.
Calm down. The world is not burning, despite what the liberal media have predicted.


+100000000000000000000000000000
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:56     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None. Absolutely none. The over-the-top end of the world nonesense is much more dangerous. Trump would never have been my choice. But he isn't going to destroy the country. His ego alone may make him a decent President. 2020 will be here in four short years. Hopefully the Democratic Party had learned that you can't just shove an unelectable candidate down the throats of voters and hope it gets better.[u]


Sigh, I hope they learned something.


shut the fuck up, hillary won the popular vote!
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:51     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if Roe v wade falls, it will still be up to states to decide the legality of abortion. You can all move to states that you agree with or you can elect state representatives to decide the issue. Will it become more difficult in some states? possibly but not as much as you think.


This the correct answer. Whether or not abortion is legal will be decided by the states. This is the situation as it existed before Roe v. Wade, consistent, in the view of many, with the Tenth Amendment. There are those who oppose Roe v.Wade not because it made abortion legal, but because it required all the states to make it legal, taking away the states' right to determine this issue for themselves. I personally believe that this decision began a huge rift in the country between those who believe strongly in states rights and those who believe strongly in a federal overlay on those rights through living interpretation of the Constitution.

If you live in Maryland, Virginia, or DC nothing happens to the right to abortion because of an overturning of Roe v. Wade. If anything, it could lead to even further liberalization in those states. For example, without Roe v. Wade, SCOTUS imposed constraints on third term abortions could be removed in those states.


Basic constitutional protections aren't a matter of a state prerogative. Are you okay with states outlawing interracial marriage? What about prohibiting unmarried couples from using birth control? Arresting people for engaging in sexual acts with persons of the same sex? Denying accommodations or services to same sex couples?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:30     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:None. Absolutely none. The over-the-top end of the world nonesense is much more dangerous. Trump would never have been my choice. But he isn't going to destroy the country. His ego alone may make him a decent President. 2020 will be here in four short years. Hopefully the Democratic Party had learned that you can't just shove an unelectable candidate down the throats of voters and hope it gets better.




Let's hope Hillary does not try to run for a THIRD time.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:29     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:Even if Roe v wade falls, it will still be up to states to decide the legality of abortion. You can all move to states that you agree with or you can elect state representatives to decide the issue. Will it become more difficult in some states? possibly but not as much as you think.


This the correct answer. Whether or not abortion is legal will be decided by the states. This is the situation as it existed before Roe v. Wade, consistent, in the view of many, with the Tenth Amendment. There are those who oppose Roe v.Wade not because it made abortion legal, but because it required all the states to make it legal, taking away the states' right to determine this issue for themselves. I personally believe that this decision began a huge rift in the country between those who believe strongly in states rights and those who believe strongly in a federal overlay on those rights through living interpretation of the Constitution.

If you live in Maryland, Virginia, or DC nothing happens to the right to abortion because of an overturning of Roe v. Wade. If anything, it could lead to even further liberalization in those states. For example, without Roe v. Wade, SCOTUS imposed constraints on third term abortions could be removed in those states.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:22     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:Trump stated he wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Trump stated women should be punished for getting abortions.
Birth control may not be covered under insurance, it depends on his new healthcare plan (if he even has one).

It's already fairly difficult in many states to get an abortion, this certainly won't help.


Yep!

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/why-you-should-get-an-iud-before-trump-becomes-president.html?mid=facebook_nymag
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:21     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:I don't see the big deal in defunding PP. With ACA shouldn't everyone now be able to afford reproductive healthcare?

I went to PP when I was unexpectedly pregnant and didn't have insurance. They weren't helpful at all, they just gave me a urine pregnancy test and said "yup, you're pregnant". I'd support them if they offered prenatal services to underprivileged women, but they don't. They couldn't even recommend a place with affordable prenatal care.

I do think insurance should be required to cover BC. I have a feeling they would stop covering it for financial reasons, not because they are morally opposed.


Do you support eliminating the grant programs from which PP receives funds? Or do you only support making PP ineligible for those funds?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:10     Subject: As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Trump stated he wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Trump stated women should be punished for getting abortions.
Birth control may not be covered under insurance, it depends on his new healthcare plan (if he even has one).

It's already fairly difficult in many states to get an abortion, this certainly won't help.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2016 11:07     Subject: Re:As a woman, what rights will be taken away and how?
Anonymous wrote:Even if Roe v wade falls, it will still be up to states to decide the legality of abortion. You can all move to states that you agree with or you can elect state representatives to decide the issue. Will it become more difficult in some states? possibly but not as much as you think.


Right.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06/28/texas-abortion-clinics-have-closed-hb2-passed-2013/