Anonymous wrote:Calling everyone in the middle an uneducated, imbecilic, racist rube from flyover country.

Calling them uncultured and ignorant.

Watching government grow exponentially without tangible benefit in the "middle".

Being told how and what to think.

Being condescended to because you chose to move to Detroit with your Harvard MBA rather than going to NYC or DC or some place "with culture".

How's that for a start?

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Anonymous wrote:I was born and raised in a very middle class suburb of Detroit. I graduated at the top of my high school class, got a scholarship to an Ivy League school, and moved away from Michigan never to return for longer than a couple of weeks for a few summers. Fast forward 25 years, my husband is from similar circumstances, we met here in DC and are both GS-15s. I've been proud to be s civil servant and have worked pretty hard to provide high quality services through my department.

In this election season I've been totally shocked by the level of fury and anger directed at Washington, "the system", and even me personally by my hometown friends on both the left and right. They hate us. One woman I haven't seen in 20 years called me a cancer who would need to be removed once Donald Trump gained the presidency after I posted something fairly neutral on the election, the Bernie supporters were pretty similar.

Frankly my husband and I could have had more lucrative careers in the private sector like many of my college and law school classmates but we came to government out of a sense of patriotism and civic duty. I work hard because I want our government to function well, I had no idea how many people assumed I am a lazy drain on the economy.

What have we done to earn this vitriol and how do we change this perception?

How tone deaf can you get, PP. you are the very embodiment of why people hate the government. You work very little have paid vacations and medical benefits that are the envy of the world. Of course people resent you. It comes with, being a fed. You are a nice life at the expense of others who are not.

Jealous much?

Not really. I am a GS-15 at DOJ and DH is a GS-14 at HUD.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

Why aren't you fighting to have your employer pony for decent insurance for you? Stop complaining and organize if you don't like your situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I was born and raised in a very middle class suburb of Detroit. I graduated at the top of my high school class, got a scholarship to an Ivy League school, and moved away from Michigan never to return for longer than a couple of weeks for a few summers. Fast forward 25 years, my husband is from similar circumstances, we met here in DC and are both GS-15s. I've been proud to be s civil servant and have worked pretty hard to provide high quality services through my department.

In this election season I've been totally shocked by the level of fury and anger directed at Washington, "the system", and even me personally by my hometown friends on both the left and right. They hate us. One woman I haven't seen in 20 years called me a cancer who would need to be removed once Donald Trump gained the presidency after I posted something fairly neutral on the election, the Bernie supporters were pretty similar.

Frankly my husband and I could have had more lucrative careers in the private sector like many of my college and law school classmates but we came to government out of a sense of patriotism and civic duty. I work hard because I want our government to function well, I had no idea how many people assumed I am a lazy drain on the economy.

What have we done to earn this vitriol and how do we change this perception?

How tone deaf can you get, PP. you are the very embodiment of why people hate the government. You work very little have paid vacations and medical benefits that are the envy of the world. Of course people resent you. It comes with, being a fed. You are a nice life at the expense of others who are not.

Jealous much?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

Why aren't you fighting to have your employer pony for decent insurance for you? Stop complaining and organize if you don't like your situation.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

+ 1 to having all the federal and congressional employees on Obamacare. I am so fed up with my fed friends and neighbors telling me how wonderful Obamacare is, as they enjoy wonderful taxpayer-funded plans and access to the best doctors, while I lost my great (and affordable) plan and am now paying a ridiculous amount of money for poor coverage and sub-standard care. They need to experience what we peons have been suffering with - which includes the financial sacrifices to provide free care to lower income - before I give any credence to their opinion.

Well said! I agree, don't care of your opinion until you are swimming in the same health care pond I am in, just don't have an ounce of respect for any of them.

I agree! Federal health insurance for EVERYONE!

Can you imagine if Hillary said that federal employees would have to go on the federal ACA program? She's lose Northern Virginia - and the state!

I'd rather her imagine saying that the federal health insurance program (FEHB) was available to everyone in the country!

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Anonymous wrote:Let's update that shall we, Washington, D.C. has become a city of over entitled brats who suck off the taxpayers back every opportunity they get. Sounds much better.

This is the type of evidence driven, respectful comment that really moves the debate forward.

Must be a government worker Lot of thought in your sarcastic response. Now run off and play in your second home while your weekend nanny tends to your little brats.

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Anonymous wrote:Because once you are a Fed worker, then you become just like the politicians, the only thing you care about is staying in your job. You lose sight of the little things that big government does, like these crazy regulations, that affect the average person's daily life in so many ways and you don't seem to care. You will forever vote Democratic because you need your job and its' benefits and the rest of the world knows it. Basically, you appear to have no integrity, period. I overheard two EPA "workers", that's the word you guys like to use these days, right? Anyway I overheard them talking about the election while out at dinner and they said look, even if he wins we don't have to worry. He will never be able to untangle the mess of our department and we won't be touchéd. Invisible is the word that comes to mind, yes, government workers think they are untouchable. I don't care if its the nasty customer service at the DC MVA or my local postal carrier, they just seemed so removed from the average person's burden. I mean I can't imagine talking to people the way I have witnessed government agencies handling their job and not being immediately fired, in the real world we are not sheltered in our jobs, we perform or get fired. That's not how it works with government workers and there is a lot of resentment towards that sense of entitlement you seem to possess. And you know what, your post sounds as though you feel you are entitled to the respect for others for your service, please, you are not in the military, you are a f g leach off of the tax payers ass and you don't even have to use Obamacare. Understand now?

I believe everyone is entitled to respect, whether they work for the government, a major corporation, or in fast food. But this general lack of decency and terrible DC stereotypes is exactly what OP was talking about.



Government workers can and do get fired. Any of them with 2 Ivy League degrees could likely do much better in the private sector, regardless these stereotypes aren't true of a lot of DC.

If she could do better with her IVY league degrees, then why doesn't she leave? Because the hours and benefits and job security far outweigh other opportunities and she knows it and so do you. Shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

+ 1 to having all the federal and congressional employees on Obamacare. I am so fed up with my fed friends and neighbors telling me how wonderful Obamacare is, as they enjoy wonderful taxpayer-funded plans and access to the best doctors, while I lost my great (and affordable) plan and am now paying a ridiculous amount of money for poor coverage and sub-standard care. They need to experience what we peons have been suffering with - which includes the financial sacrifices to provide free care to lower income - before I give any credence to their opinion.

Well said! I agree, don't care of your opinion until you are swimming in the same health care pond I am in, just don't have an ounce of respect for any of them.

I agree! Federal health insurance for EVERYONE!

Can you imagine if Hillary said that federal employees would have to go on the federal ACA program? She's lose Northern Virginia - and the state!

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

+ 1 to having all the federal and congressional employees on Obamacare. I am so fed up with my fed friends and neighbors telling me how wonderful Obamacare is, as they enjoy wonderful taxpayer-funded plans and access to the best doctors, while I lost my great (and affordable) plan and am now paying a ridiculous amount of money for poor coverage and sub-standard care. They need to experience what we peons have been suffering with - which includes the financial sacrifices to provide free care to lower income - before I give any credence to their opinion.

Well said! I agree, don't care of your opinion until you are swimming in the same health care pond I am in, just don't have an ounce of respect for any of them.

I agree! Federal health insurance for EVERYONE!

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

+ 1 to having all the federal and congressional employees on Obamacare. I am so fed up with my fed friends and neighbors telling me how wonderful Obamacare is, as they enjoy wonderful taxpayer-funded plans and access to the best doctors, while I lost my great (and affordable) plan and am now paying a ridiculous amount of money for poor coverage and sub-standard care. They need to experience what we peons have been suffering with - which includes the financial sacrifices to provide free care to lower income - before I give any credence to their opinion.

Well said! I agree, don't care of your opinion until you are swimming in the same health care pond I am in, just don't have an ounce of respect for any of them.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the mottos of Princeton, my alma mater, is "Princeton in the nations service"

It is so sad that none of these anti-DC posters see that many of us working at the FDA, Fed, NIH, or other agencies feel that public service serves a vital function in our country, and are willing to accept lower pay to contribute to society.

This. Thank you.

+2.

I work in the public service, and I DO appreciate that I have a job that is stable and gives me enough time for my family. I am also proud to be working on behalf of the American people instead of a money-grabbing corporation. I make less money than people in the private sector, but I am not jealous or angry, and some of the people on this board should try it sometime!

Ha ha! The federal government is a money-grabbing corporation, haven't you seen the news lately? Difference is, it's funded by tax payer dollars and not private dollars. Stop whining about how much less money you make, we don't care, you can get another job that pays more. Please don't sacrifice for us, we didn't ask you to. I do want you to have to use Obamacare though and I am fighting the have all federal and congressional employees to be on the exchange with the rest of us soulless losers.

+ 1 to having all the federal and congressional employees on Obamacare. I am so fed up with my fed friends and neighbors telling me how wonderful Obamacare is, as they enjoy wonderful taxpayer-funded plans and access to the best doctors, while I lost my great (and affordable) plan and am now paying a ridiculous amount of money for poor coverage and sub-standard care. They need to experience what we peons have been suffering with - which includes the financial sacrifices to provide free care to lower income - before I give any credence to their opinion.