Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 17:21     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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I adopted a breed I wanted (cocker spaniel) and am unlikely to adopt again. The dog was much older than they said, and had myriad health problems, and was a biter.

Sadly, many of these dogs are unwanted and in shelters for a reason.



Yes, the rescues are not reliable about their information. And honestly, they so often call this dog or that dog a border collie mix or a retriever mix instead of just saying "we have no idea" or saying more correctly pit mix or hound mix. It is annoying.


Lab mix??? https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/28240999/
Pit mix on description. Honesty. https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/34491175/
Real Lab http://www.riorocklabs.com/mick.htm

Labs have very thick plush coats. The hair is at least 1 in long and oily. It feels like product is on the hair. Many have a wave down the back. The tail is thick and somewhat short. Feet have webbing between the toes. Legs are thick boned.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 14:29     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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I adopted a breed I wanted (cocker spaniel) and am unlikely to adopt again. The dog was much older than they said, and had myriad health problems, and was a biter.

Sadly, many of these dogs are unwanted and in shelters for a reason.



Yes, the rescues are not reliable about their information. And honestly, they so often call this dog or that dog a border collie mix or a retriever mix instead of just saying "we have no idea" or saying more correctly pit mix or hound mix. It is annoying.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 11:33     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
Golden - About 2K from a reputable breeder
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 11:30     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
What's going on with the FX County animal shelter now and it's adopting out biters?
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 10:04     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
^^ Our corgi is very nice without health issues and a wonderful dog. Well worth the price of $2000 -- you will be apying that much in vet bills with a dog who has health problems.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 10:03     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.


Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.




I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.


Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.


You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.


That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.


Now I am laughing.You absolutely can and I have done so 6 times. There are even breed specific rescues. You are ridiculous.


OK... then find me a corgi. I live in the DC area.


http://www.pwcorgiclubgs.org/Regional-Pembroke-Welsh-Corgi-rescue-groups.htm


I clicked on your link out of curiosity and there appears to be a few puppies available (but nowhere near the DC area) and all of the adults are listed as adopted! (Which is great news!) So maybe those of you objecting to people buying dogs should be upset with people who ditch their dogs in shelters and at people who are irresponsibly breeding too many pit bulls and mixes. Because that's where the real problem is. Way too many pits.


I bought a Corgi about 8 months ago. there was one breeder in PA, who was all sold out, puppies only, very strict adoption process. Nothing anywhere near DC. No rescues available. Some rescues on the West coast with lots of problems. I used petfinder and flew to another part of the country to get my corgi. There was one breeder in Vegas who seemed nice, but that dog was gone instantly.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 09:55     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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Anonymous wrote:I agree the problem is related to irresponsible owners breeding pits etc, and those giving up their problem dogs. Why should I be responsible for this? Plus we were denied by shelters etc because of young kids and jobs despite arrangements for the dog to be cared for during the day.

I agree with the adoption. / Foster comment. There are plenty of children who need homes yet people pay for IVF etc to get what they want. There is TONS of money involved here. What do you think of people paying for adoptions abroad instead of US children who need a home.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you want to make this point, let's not lay responsibility for making different choices only on individuals struggling with infertility. Every time a person contemplates parenthood, whether for the first or fifth time, and decides to have a biological child, they, too, are making a choice to skip over "US children who need a home." Why bring more kids into the world when there are plenty here already who need families? [/quite]

I agree with your point. I don't think there is a problem with any of these scenarios just as I am ok with a breeder.


Agree. I posted the whoa, whoa comment and that's my point -- let's not be so quick to cast stones at those who choose breeders over shelter dogs while most of us are sitting at home looking at the multiple biological children we chose to have over bringing a child who needs a home into our families. I know there are people who will reject that argument and decry comparing children to animals, but the principles are the same. There is no one "right" answer for anyone.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 09:36     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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Anonymous wrote:Find a breeder who shows. Go to their house, get the lay of the land. You'll be able to tell if they actually love their dogs or if they're a puppy mill. We had a great experience with a woman in Virginia with whom we maintain a relationship. Our dog is now 13. She doesn't breed anymore or I'd recommend her.

And I want to add to this--she interview US. It was clear she wasn't letting us take one of her dogs unless she thought we'd be good owners. That's the sign of a good breeder.


+1

This is what I did when getting my English lab. $1800

He is so sweet and easy to train! Never barks, not reactive or sensitive, doesnt need a ton of exercise, doesn't eat up anything (except the puppy stage of going after shoes, remote controls).

Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 09:25     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
Anonymous wrote:Same here. We have always had corgis in our family. They are not found in the shelters or rescues. One day, I might be persuaded to try another herding breed, but I do not want a pit mix, a lab mix, or a hound mix. Sorry.


+1. There are many "corgi mixes" that look like pitbulls or beagles to me. And the rescues are very picky and only give the (one) they have to other Corgi owners. They are wonderful dogs -- we bought from a breeder.
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Post 10/13/2016 09:23     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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Anonymous wrote:Find a breeder who shows. Go to their house, get the lay of the land. You'll be able to tell if they actually love their dogs or if they're a puppy mill. We had a great experience with a woman in Virginia with whom we maintain a relationship. Our dog is now 13. She doesn't breed anymore or I'd recommend her.

And I want to add to this--she interview US. It was clear she wasn't letting us take one of her dogs unless she thought we'd be good owners. That's the sign of a good breeder.


+1 several people wanted the dog we chose. We had more experience and references. It was still $1400 + travel expenses.
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Post 10/13/2016 09:13     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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Anonymous wrote:I agree the problem is related to irresponsible owners breeding pits etc, and those giving up their problem dogs. Why should I be responsible for this? Plus we were denied by shelters etc because of young kids and jobs despite arrangements for the dog to be cared for during the day.

I agree with the adoption. / Foster comment. There are plenty of children who need homes yet people pay for IVF etc to get what they want. There is TONS of money involved here. What do you think of people paying for adoptions abroad instead of US children who need a home.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you want to make this point, let's not lay responsibility for making different choices only on individuals struggling with infertility. Every time a person contemplates parenthood, whether for the first or fifth time, and decides to have a biological child, they, too, are making a choice to skip over "US children who need a home." Why bring more kids into the world when there are plenty here already who need families? [/quite]

I agree with your point. I don't think there is a problem with any of these scenarios just as I am ok with a breeder.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 09:05     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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I adopted a breed I wanted (cocker spaniel) and am unlikely to adopt again. The dog was much older than they said, and had myriad health problems, and was a biter.

Sadly, many of these dogs are unwanted and in shelters for a reason.



This.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 08:54     Subject: What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
Anonymous wrote:I agree the problem is related to irresponsible owners breeding pits etc, and those giving up their problem dogs. Why should I be responsible for this? Plus we were denied by shelters etc because of young kids and jobs despite arrangements for the dog to be cared for during the day.

I agree with the adoption. / Foster comment. There are plenty of children who need homes yet people pay for IVF etc to get what they want. There is TONS of money involved here. What do you think of people paying for adoptions abroad instead of US children who need a home.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you want to make this point, let's not lay responsibility for making different choices only on individuals struggling with infertility. Every time a person contemplates parenthood, whether for the first or fifth time, and decides to have a biological child, they, too, are making a choice to skip over "US children who need a home." Why bring more kids into the world when there are plenty here already who need families?
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 08:40     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?


I adopted a breed I wanted (cocker spaniel) and am unlikely to adopt again. The dog was much older than they said, and had myriad health problems, and was a biter.

Sadly, many of these dogs are unwanted and in shelters for a reason.

Anonymous
Post 10/13/2016 08:33     Subject: Re:What are the prices of a puppy from a reputable breeder?
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Anonymous wrote:+1 to PP above.

What if I want a Vizla? Or a Standard Poodle?
What about an Airedale? Or an Irish Setter?
How about a Bernese Mountain Dog? Or a Scottish Deerhound? Or a Samoyed?

These are not rare breeds. But they are certainly not languishing in the shelters.

Also, a lot of the rescue organizations will claim that a dog is one "fill-in-the-blank" mix when, in reality, the dog is nothing of the sort. For example, do we really think that this dog (https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/35636540) is an cattle dog mix? No. They just want to label it something other than pit mix. When I got one of my dogs from Lost Dog and Cat Rescue about 8 years ago, they said he was a border collie and lab mix. Nope. We found out later that he was a brittany mix (with some pointer and beagle possibly thrown in).

OP, to answer your original question, we got our German Shepherd from a breeder for $800 eleven years ago.


So you want a rare breed of dog instead of a dog that would love a home. Again...you are a Gucci type of person...you want that expensive and sought after item. It is not about the dog, it's the status.
BTW...German Sheps also have a huge rate of cancer death, hemangiosarcoma as an example...because they are bred. And your demand for bred dogs is the reason. Please don't try to justify this practice. It' s cruel, it's fostering genetic illness in dogs, and it's fueling an unfortunate practice for money.


I have two adopted mutts from rescues and one German Shepherd. I hope to always have a German Shepherd in my life... in my opinion, they are the best type of dog by far. I sporadically check the Shepherd rescue organizations, but I doubt that I will ever find a Shepherd from there. Too many physically and socially unstable dogs from disreputable breeders. So I happily buy a puppy or young adult from a fabulous breeder every 15 years or so.