Also, PP, you obviously missed the National Geographic's tour of 1001 Inventions:

http://www.1001inventions.com/discover
From the 7th century onwards, men and women of different faiths and cultures built on knowledge from ancient civilisations making breakthroughs that have left their mark on our world. Arab, Persian, Indian, Turkish, North African, Spanish, Sicilian and other nationalities and cultures formed this large area of Muslim Civilisation that included men and woman scholars of Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Sabean, Hindu and other faiths.

Knowledge from Assyrian, Babylonian, Chinese, Egyptian, Greek, Indian, Persian and Roman civilisations was highly prized in the Muslim Civilisation. Scholars advanced science by building upon ancient wisdom, making breakthroughs that have had a huge but mostly unknown influence on our world.

This ‘golden age of discovery’ took place during the so-called ‘dark ages’ of Europe.

The Arabs invented the first camera:
Ibn Al-Haytham’s EyeScura

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Anonymous wrote:Do not knock it. Wasps are great! As my kids already realize, look around you. If it was not created by God - it was created by a Wasp or another European

Well the Greeks and the people of the Middle East actually invented most everything we attribute to the "whites" including MATH and if they did not invent it then the Chinese probably did.

First of all, you know Greeks are white right?

Second of all:

Antibiotics.

The steam engine.

Electricity.

The light bulb.

The printing press.

Automobiles, bicycles, airplanes, horse-drawn carriage.

Cameras, televisions, cell phones, computers, essentially all modern modes of communication.

I could literally go on and on.

Let's see what we got from China . . . noodles and gunpowder.

Well, they're damn good noodles. But you forgot. The Chinese invented the diaphragm. (It was made from a tortoise shell.)

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Anonymous wrote:Do not knock it. Wasps are great! As my kids already realize, look around you. If it was not created by God - it was created by a Wasp or another European

Like gunpowder and algebra?

Don't forget agriculture!

Are you guys being serious or snarky?

The Chinese invented gunpowder. The Mesopotamians invented agriculture. The Greeks invented algebra.

I think WASPs invented manipulation, cultural appropriation and taking credit. (This is how you can tell Trump is a WASP.)

Arabs invented Algebra, Greeks invented geometry amongst many other things, Semites- pre hebrew/arab as well as ancient chinese invented the concept of the written word and history/record keeping. I cannot believe that people like this exist!! wow-

I've been binging on Gilmore Girls- if her parents are supposed to be wasps then wasps are 'tacky' to me b/c I was raised on English upperclass manners (Am from an old titled North Indian background for frame of reference, not that it makes me better or worse than anyone else ). A lot of stuff that I was raised thinking was ill-bred - like wearing brown shoes with blue suit, or wearing a red tie- ever is considered the epitome of good 'wasp' manners. I wouldn't judge that person b/c they are doing the best that they can and having read emily post (its actually super entertaining- i have an old copy from the 1970s that my mom had lying around) good manners are about making people feel welcome and being gracious. Genuinely well bred people always do that and that includes not being ostentatious about your material blessings or complaining about the lack thereof or comparing. Commenting on financial matters regarding things is silly and makes people feel uncomfortable, i'm sure people are doing the best that they can or know how to do.

I don't believe in waspiness. I think it is a fiction.

"Summering," blah blah blah. I think this is just wanna be important talk by white people who lived north of the mason dixon line, or who wish they did. and it is so bizarre to self-proclaim it.

Anonymous wrote:Isnt Brittney Spears a wasp? Katy Perry and Taylor Swift, too? They are innately cheesy. Do you all only ise wasp to refer to educated, East Coast Protestants, or any middle American Protestant?

It has long been assumed and accepted that WASPS are mostly east coast Caucasians , think original 13 colonies . Even till this day well to-do families on the east coast would mingle, socialize with ,and befriend African Americans and immigrants before they hang out with Caucasian southerners whom they look down upon

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Anonymous wrote:According to DCUM the only way to not be tacky is to born WASP. Everyone else is tacky.

One of the prerogatives of being a WASP is not caring what others think of you. Adopt that attitude for a happier life, OP.

Not OP but I'm quite happy not being a WASP. Seems so constricting when you have to worry about etiquette and traditions and elegance and tackiness. I'll take my loud Jewish family any day.

I have yet to meet a Jewish person in this area who isn't trying to morph into a WASP.

I am jewish, and found very few trying to morph into a WASP.

I am married to a Jew whose family loves being Waspy in every way.

Isnt Brittney Spears a wasp? Katy Perry and Taylor Swift, too? They are innately cheesy. Do you all only ise wasp to refer to educated, East Coast Protestants, or any middle American Protestant?

who cares? I don't. So dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not knock it. Wasps are great! As my kids already realize, look around you. If it was not created by God - it was created by a Wasp or another European

Well the Greeks and the people of the Middle East actually invented most everything we attribute to the "whites" including MATH and if they did not invent it then the Chinese probably did.

First of all, you know Greeks are white right?

Second of all:

Antibiotics.

The steam engine.

Electricity.

The light bulb.

The printing press.

Automobiles, bicycles, airplanes, horse-drawn carriage.

Cameras, televisions, cell phones, computers, essentially all modern modes of communication.

I could literally go on and on.

Let's see what we got from China . . . noodles and gunpowder.

Technically, you would be hard pressed to find a more white Anglo Saxon family than mine. Our genetic diversity includes some French Huguenots, one Swede, and the Ulster Scots who settled in Tennessee.

We are Dar, DAC and eligible for dames.

And yet, no one in my family has had a pot to piss in for over a hundred years... Until pretty much ww2, when the same tide that lifted boats for so many others helped my family claw itself out of the cotton fields and back into the middle class. Ish.

And that is why I am always amused by these discussions. I grew up surrounded by real wasps: the kind with summer homes in Maine, who went to private schools, who had random islands in Greece because their great uncles were botanists. (True story.)

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Anonymous wrote:Do not knock it. Wasps are great! As my kids already realize, look around you. If it was not created by God - it was created by a Wasp or another European

Like gunpowder and algebra?

Don't forget agriculture!

Agriculture ? Another one bites the dust . I'm sure the Egyptians BC and their ingenious irrigation system will agree with you

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Anonymous wrote:Do not knock it. Wasps are great! As my kids already realize, look around you. If it was not created by God - it was created by a Wasp or another European

Like gunpowder and algebra?

Don't forget agriculture!

Are you guys being serious or snarky?

The Chinese invented gunpowder. The Mesopotamians invented agriculture. The Greeks invented algebra.

I think WASPs invented manipulation, cultural appropriation and taking credit. (This is how you can tell Trump is a WASP.)

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Anonymous wrote:According to DCUM the only way to not be tacky is to born WASP. Everyone else is tacky.

One of the prerogatives of being a WASP is not caring what others think of you. Adopt that attitude for a happier life, OP.

Not OP but I'm quite happy not being a WASP. Seems so constricting when you have to worry about etiquette and traditions and elegance and tackiness. I'll take my loud Jewish family any day.

I don't think anyone has tried to stop you from doing just that .

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I find judging your friends for serving pasta and bagged salad tacky....

+1

Well-to-do-WASPS are some of the tackiest people I've ever met.

Then they aren't culturally wasps, or aren't that well off.

Anonymous wrote:WASP here who just returned from a month summering (we don't really use that word..) in a Northeast coastal enclave with my people.

Plenty of potlucks and pizza parties and even a pasta salad or two.

As for the wedding stuff, as people have noted, we find these things vulgar for the money grab part but also kinda fun and quaint since we have no real cultural traditions like this of our own. Believe me, besides "Brown Eyed Girl" nothing gets a WASP out on a wedding dance floor than the Hora or the Tarantella!

Kind of reminds me those old "How can you tell the bride at a ___ wedding?" jokes.

How can you tell the bride at a WASP wedding?

She's the one dressed in white standing next to the man dressed in black.