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Anonymous

08/09/2016 19:17 Subject: Re:Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Again BS, PP.

Autism isn't "autism." You've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism.

You are obviously paranoid that people assume your kid is autistic. So what? Who cares if people think b/c he's high functioning SN, it's no big deal. You are so incredibly prejudiced, it's stomach turning.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 19:07 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

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I am the poster who called the spectrum a joke, and I stand by that. It's really undermined the challenges of autism. Autism has very definable features, and you have it or you don't.

That being said, your description uses both "mild" and "serious impact." I think that's why the term spectrum fails children and families so badly. People hear "mild" -- and they think no big deal, not serious impact.

So -- you have proven nothing except that you should probably go find a Trump forum so you can insult people who deserve it. "Mild" is relative to "moderate" and "severe" autism -- it's still autism. And autism is a serious issue. While this child is verbal and intelligent, the impacts that affect day-to-day life are real and are a struggle for the family. We are doing every intervention possible (that we can afford) and hope for a day that we can say EI worked!

If you have a child who is moderately to severely impacted, I know your struggle is different and probably way tougher. But that doesn't mean my struggle is a joke. And it doesn't in any way threaten you or minimize you. I really hope you get a grip on lashing out at strangers who you probably have more in common with than not. Have a great day!

I think the word spectrum is a joke -- and by that, I mean it has undermined people's understanding of autism. It's diluting the seriousness of the diagnosis. It's causing children without autism to be labeled as ASD, then when they are "cured" by EI or simply grow out of the symptoms, leaves everyone wondering why that isn't the case for everyone. It's also skewing research and funding.

Autism is no joke. I'm around it every day. I'm certainly sorry if you thought I meant that.

No, PP, it's not. Parents whose kids have autism understand it. People whose kids have speech and learning disorders understand those too.

What is so transparent is that you are pissed off is about a diagnosis that your kid obviously received as toddler and have been desperately trying to prove ever since that the label was in accurate.

EI doesn't diagnose kids or pronounce them "cured." You can test or age out of services.

+1 exactly this. EI is designed to address and support a range of needs and disabilities, not diagnose or cure them. Some of which, for some children, can be mitigated through those services. It was a lifesaver for us at that age in helping my son begin to talk and engage with his environment. But autism is autism, and as grateful as I am for those EI services, i had and have no expectation that it was a silver bullet for my son's lifelong needs. It also has not/not been my experience that when people hear that my son is high functioning they think "no big deal". Because it's clear that it IS a big deal, for any children that do not have the ability to interact with others that will impact them throughout the course of their lives. So I'm not sure what you mean by "skewing research and funding"--I give thanks regularly that there are so many efforts at work to try and find solutions, tools, etc. to support our autistic kids, wherever they may sit on the spectrum that you criticize.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 18:33 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

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I am the poster who called the spectrum a joke, and I stand by that. It's really undermined the challenges of autism. Autism has very definable features, and you have it or you don't.

That being said, your description uses both "mild" and "serious impact." I think that's why the term spectrum fails children and families so badly. People hear "mild" -- and they think no big deal, not serious impact.

So -- you have proven nothing except that you should probably go find a Trump forum so you can insult people who deserve it. "Mild" is relative to "moderate" and "severe" autism -- it's still autism. And autism is a serious issue. While this child is verbal and intelligent, the impacts that affect day-to-day life are real and are a struggle for the family. We are doing every intervention possible (that we can afford) and hope for a day that we can say EI worked!

If you have a child who is moderately to severely impacted, I know your struggle is different and probably way tougher. But that doesn't mean my struggle is a joke. And it doesn't in any way threaten you or minimize you. I really hope you get a grip on lashing out at strangers who you probably have more in common with than not. Have a great day!

Anonymous

08/09/2016 18:13 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:

I am the poster who called the spectrum a joke, and I stand by that. It's really undermined the challenges of autism. Autism has very definable features, and you have it or you don't.

That being said, your description uses both "mild" and "serious impact." I think that's why the term spectrum fails children and families so badly. People hear "mild" -- and they think no big deal, not serious impact.

I think the word spectrum is a joke -- and by that, I mean it has undermined people's understanding of autism. It's diluting the seriousness of the diagnosis. It's causing children without autism to be labeled as ASD, then when they are "cured" by EI or simply grow out of the symptoms, leaves everyone wondering why that isn't the case for everyone. It's also skewing research and funding.

Autism is no joke. I'm around it every day. I'm certainly sorry if you thought I meant that.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 17:54 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous

08/09/2016 16:38 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

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Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

It's only a "joke" to you b/c your bitter about your kid's diagnosis. Time to get over it.

I'm not bitter at all about my child's true diagnosis. I'm tired of everything and everyone being labeled ADD/ADHD and autism vs. getting real diagnosis and services to fit. My child is doing great.

Not everything is labeled autism. Great that your kid got appropriate intervention and no longer "looks autistic." So if you have a "true diagnosis," time to let go the initial autism diagnosis b/c you are obviously obsessed, bitter, and prejudiced about it. It's holding you back more than it ever will your kid.

This poster is not alone in her experience. I know many, many parents whose children were either labeled or diagnosed with autism, only to have the label overturned later. Lots of wasted time, tears, money, and therapies on the wrong things.

I call bull sh*t. If parents seek out a developmental pediatrician, then something--whatever it is--needs to be addressed. Speech therapy and behavioral services look pretty much identical for kids on and off the spectrum.

It's not a court case. "Over turning" a diagnosis just means that early intervention worked.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 16:36 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:So... back to the original intent of this thread...

I personally think that each life-stage that an ASD person confronts will be met with different strengths and weaknesses. I think it's awesome that Toni Braxton thinks that her child's strengths now outweigh his weaknesses. Does this mean he is cured? That is not clear. Thirteen is still very very young. What happens when this child starts high school or college or career? Will other challenges rear up?

As for "the spectrum," I have a child diagnosed with mild ASD (yes, we are certain and confident in the diagnosis) and I have to say that my child has serious impacts throughout his day because of autism. The "spectrum" is not a "joke" and it is not even indicative of functioning because strengths and weaknesses are distributed so wildly. It truly is an invisible disability that only someone on the outside would consider to be a "joke."

Anonymous

08/09/2016 16:31 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

So... back to the original intent of this thread...

I personally think that each life-stage that an ASD person confronts will be met with different strengths and weaknesses. I think it's awesome that Toni Braxton thinks that her child's strengths now outweigh his weaknesses. Does this mean he is cured? That is not clear. Thirteen is still very very young. What happens when this child starts high school or college or career? Will other challenges rear up?

As for "the spectrum," I have a child diagnosed with mild ASD (yes, we are certain and confident in the diagnosis) and I have to say that my child has serious impacts throughout his day because of autism. The "spectrum" is not a "joke" and it is not even indicative of functioning because strengths and weaknesses are distributed so wildly. It truly is an invisible disability that only someone on the outside would consider to be a "joke."

Anonymous

08/09/2016 16:24 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

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Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

It's only a "joke" to you b/c your bitter about your kid's diagnosis. Time to get over it.

I'm not bitter at all about my child's true diagnosis. I'm tired of everything and everyone being labeled ADD/ADHD and autism vs. getting real diagnosis and services to fit. My child is doing great.

Not everything is labeled autism. Great that your kid got appropriate intervention and no longer "looks autistic." So if you have a "true diagnosis," time to let go the initial autism diagnosis b/c you are obviously obsessed, bitter, and prejudiced about it. It's holding you back more than it ever will your kid.

This poster is not alone in her experience. I know many, many parents whose children were either labeled or diagnosed with autism, only to have the label overturned later. Lots of wasted time, tears, money, and therapies on the wrong things.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 16:15 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

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Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

It's only a "joke" to you b/c your bitter about your kid's diagnosis. Time to get over it.

I'm not bitter at all about my child's true diagnosis. I'm tired of everything and everyone being labeled ADD/ADHD and autism vs. getting real diagnosis and services to fit. My child is doing great.

Not everything is labeled autism. Great that your kid got appropriate intervention and no longer "looks autistic." So if you have a "true diagnosis," time to let go the initial autism diagnosis b/c you are obviously obsessed, bitter, and prejudiced about it. It's holding you back more than it ever will your kid.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 15:38 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

It's only a "joke" to you b/c your bitter about your kid's diagnosis. Time to get over it.

No, time to insist those diagnosing and labeling autism are doing it accurately. How can anyone suggest otherwise?

Anonymous

08/09/2016 15:29 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

It's only a "joke" to you b/c your bitter about your kid's diagnosis. Time to get over it.

I'm not bitter at all about my child's true diagnosis. I'm tired of everything and everyone being labeled ADD/ADHD and autism vs. getting real diagnosis and services to fit. My child is doing great.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 15:18 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

It's only a "joke" to you b/c your bitter about your kid's diagnosis. Time to get over it.

Anonymous

08/09/2016 15:05 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"

The "spectrum" is making the ASD diagnosis a joke. It is harmful for those with actual, real autism, not the "little bit" of autism that kids are growing out of left and right these days.

Anonymous

08/08/2016 18:30 Subject: Toni Braxton says her child "cured" of autism through early intervention

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kids on the spectrum look "natural" how are they on the spectrum?

Physically they look fine. But when they talk, socialize, etc. they appear "different." Just like kids with many other disorders.

Not always you twits. It's a "spectrum."

We don't call people twits on this forum.

Wow, you're calling this out b/c two posters are being "silly and annoying" definition of a "twit," and the not the parent rejects the autism diagnosis for her high functioning kid b/c it "minimizes those who truly are?"