Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 18:44     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Maybe it's me being naive, but Is sitting on someone's lap worthy of calling CPS?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 17:45     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:It's possible CPS ruled out that girls sitting on his lap didn't provide probable cause.


I don't think anyone called CPS. This was all handled internally within MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 17:34     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:So if CPS ruled it out, they were stuck.


Child Protective Services was never called!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:10     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

So if CPS ruled it out, they were stuck.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:09     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

It's possible CPS ruled out that girls sitting on his lap didn't provide probable cause.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 08:45     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

With this molestation suit against the BOE (http://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2017/08/montgomery-co-school-board-sued-millions-ex-teachers-molestation-kids/), I wonder how many other cases will pop up?

In most cases, the teachers and principals, once an incident is reported, are given protocols from central to follow. I'm not sure how due process works in these cases, but I feel as though he should have been placed on paid leave immediately while being investigated.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2017 18:50     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


Can someone else weigh in on this? Wouldn't a principal be a Mandated Reporter if they suspect anything inappropriate? How is it okay to just look the other way if something is suspected? That is terrifying.

I work in a somewhat health care related field and even we get training in being a mandated reporter. Are principals exempt from that requirement?


In Maryland:
Mandated Reporters

You are a mandated reporter if you are one of the following:

Health Practitioner
Educator
Human Service Worker
Police Officer

Reporting does NOT require PROOF that child abuse or neglect has occurred. Incidents are to be reported as soon as they are suspected. Waiting for proof may involve grave risk to the child and impede services to the family. Witnesses to child abuse and neglect are rare. Professional judgment and knowledge should be used to evaluate any suspicion.

Please note that effective October 1, 2016, if a local department has reason to believe that a mandated reporter knowingly failed to make a report of suspected abuse or neglect of a child, the local department must file a complaint with the appropriate licensing board or employer of the mandated reporter. Anyone making a “good faith” report is immune from civil liability and criminal penalty.



Lots of forms need to be filled out reporting all the people in MCPS who failed to report.

And they should ALL be fired.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2017 10:18     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


Can someone else weigh in on this? Wouldn't a principal be a Mandated Reporter if they suspect anything inappropriate? How is it okay to just look the other way if something is suspected? That is terrifying.

I work in a somewhat health care related field and even we get training in being a mandated reporter. Are principals exempt from that requirement?


In Maryland:
Mandated Reporters

You are a mandated reporter if you are one of the following:

Health Practitioner
Educator
Human Service Worker
Police Officer

Reporting does NOT require PROOF that child abuse or neglect has occurred. Incidents are to be reported as soon as they are suspected. Waiting for proof may involve grave risk to the child and impede services to the family. Witnesses to child abuse and neglect are rare. Professional judgment and knowledge should be used to evaluate any suspicion.

Please note that effective October 1, 2016, if a local department has reason to believe that a mandated reporter knowingly failed to make a report of suspected abuse or neglect of a child, the local department must file a complaint with the appropriate licensing board or employer of the mandated reporter. Anyone making a “good faith” report is immune from civil liability and criminal penalty.



Lots of forms need to be filled out reporting all the people in MCPS who failed to report.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2017 10:09     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


Can someone else weigh in on this? Wouldn't a principal be a Mandated Reporter if they suspect anything inappropriate? How is it okay to just look the other way if something is suspected? That is terrifying.

I work in a somewhat health care related field and even we get training in being a mandated reporter. Are principals exempt from that requirement?


In Maryland:
Mandated Reporters

You are a mandated reporter if you are one of the following:

Health Practitioner
Educator
Human Service Worker
Police Officer

Reporting does NOT require PROOF that child abuse or neglect has occurred. Incidents are to be reported as soon as they are suspected. Waiting for proof may involve grave risk to the child and impede services to the family. Witnesses to child abuse and neglect are rare. Professional judgment and knowledge should be used to evaluate any suspicion.

Please note that effective October 1, 2016, if a local department has reason to believe that a mandated reporter knowingly failed to make a report of suspected abuse or neglect of a child, the local department must file a complaint with the appropriate licensing board or employer of the mandated reporter. Anyone making a “good faith” report is immune from civil liability and criminal penalty.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2017 10:03     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Principals are mandated reporters. All members of MCPS staff are. I'd had to call CPS numerous times. And almost every time it has been "ruled out". After we make that call, we fill out the form and hand it to administrations. And that's it. we've done our part. They never tel is what the outcome of an investigation is.

Idk this case specifically but there is a clear chain of command in MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2017 07:36     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


Can someone else weigh in on this? Wouldn't a principal be a Mandated Reporter if they suspect anything inappropriate? How is it okay to just look the other way if something is suspected? That is terrifying.

I work in a somewhat health care related field and even we get training in being a mandated reporter. Are principals exempt from that requirement?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2017 05:11     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal

You are DESPICABLE. Shame on you! Hope you get sued for protecting predators.


I doubt that would ever happen. It's the school district as a whole that would get sued and I'm sure their pockets run deep.

Which school district in NY, Mr. Principal?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2017 22:46     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal

You are DESPICABLE. Shame on you! Hope you get sued for protecting predators.


I doubt that would ever happen. It's the school district as a whole that would get sued and I'm sure their pockets run deep.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2017 22:33     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal

You are DESPICABLE. Shame on you! Hope you get sued for protecting predators.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2017 22:27     Subject: Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


That is so disheartening to hear.