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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

Isn't if funny that people on here expect you to be ashamed? They are not ashamed because they got into college as a legacy or because they got a job based on connections. As I have said on this board and to my own children many times, if people are concerned about how and why you got where you are, that is their problem - not yours. The most important thing is to take advantage of the opportunity. Let them wonder how you got it.

I agree as long as that holds true for everyone. No assumptions people aren't qualified or hit a job or promoted because of AA, and equally no assumptions that whits privilege was part of the reason. Treat everyone equally, let their work speak for itself and don't waste time being divisive looking for another person's presumed flaws. I'm one of the earlier posters and I don't at all think anyone should be ashamed of benefitting from AA. I just take issue with the notion of payback for what happened generations back. I'm a first generation American, and like do very many Americans had no role whatsoever in slavery. My ancestors were suffering their own atrocities at various times in other parts of the world. It just seems unproductive to keep looking backwards, and to think that one should benefit today from atrocities that happened up their ancestors. Sadly, when you look at the most successful slave revolt (Haiti) resulting in a substantial empowerment of former slaves, things did not turn out so well in the end looking at current day Haiti. Not at all to say that that was the only trajectory possible at all, but it seems pretty speculative to assume that U.S. Slaves' descendants would have been better off financially under other circumstances.

You should just say "black people need to get over it." Do you understand that the what happened "generations back" has had a significant impact on the decedents of the people effected? Black people would get over it if it didn't have an impact. Guess what? It did, and it continues too.

Do you think its a simple coincidence that black with college education unemployment rates = white high school drop out unemployment? To take it even further: Employment success of blacks with degrees from elite colleges = whites from less selective schools. Guess those blacks need to "work harder."

Did you know that blacks/brown are still arrested and incarcerated more for similar or less severe crimes than whites? That schools with majority black and brown students generally have lower quality teachers? Teachers in general have lower overall expectations of black and brown students? That black and brown kids are suspended and disciplined in K-12 more than whites and others for similar or less offenses? They still pay higher interest rates on loans than whites and other races with similar or better credit? The evidence here is pretty large, so we can do this for a while.

Does racism have to mean a whip and white hood and burning cross in order for you to acknowledge that it exists and still negatively impacts POC-- primarily those whose ancestors are from here? If you want to remove policies such as AA that attempt to correct for historical atrocities, then would you pledge to help fight for policies that help eliminate the ones from today? Also, would you support economic policy that could help restore the loss of wealth and opportunities which were mainly made available to majority of AAs over the last 60 years?

Historical amnesia is convenient to those who it most benefits.

Actually, it's understanding a wide enough scope of world history to understand that many, many people have been oppressed or otherwise suffered atrocities, and that African Americans are not at all alone in that. Not by a long shot. And I wouldn't blame all of the above issues on racism. Yes, it exists, absolutely no doubt (and African Americans are as likely as anyone else to be racist in my experience). But to blame the above fully on racism is incorrect. Who forces African American girls to have multiple children out of wedlock at a disproportional rate, with all of the associated and well-studied consequences? That's not white privilege at work. It's a mix of factors but don't pretend you are African Americans are the only people who have suffered.

You need to focus: We're talking about Blacks in these United States (and the history that created thie AA program). The Japanese who were interned on US soil have received reparations. Native Americans have received reparations in the form of treaties and laws that recognize their sovereignty. Have African Americans received reparations? Nope. We haven't even received an official apology from the U.S. Government. I wouldn't be where I am today if I only focused on how my ancestors were treated. Unfortunately for you though, I will also never forget how they were treated. I'm not interested in playing your game.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

Isn't if funny that people on here expect you to be ashamed? They are not ashamed because they got into college as a legacy or because they got a job based on connections. As I have said on this board and to my own children many times, if people are concerned about how and why you got where you are, that is their problem - not yours. The most important thing is to take advantage of the opportunity. Let them wonder how you got it.

I agree as long as that holds true for everyone. No assumptions people aren't qualified or hit a job or promoted because of AA, and equally no assumptions that whits privilege was part of the reason. Treat everyone equally, let their work speak for itself and don't waste time being divisive looking for another person's presumed flaws. I'm one of the earlier posters and I don't at all think anyone should be ashamed of benefitting from AA. I just take issue with the notion of payback for what happened generations back. I'm a first generation American, and like do very many Americans had no role whatsoever in slavery. My ancestors were suffering their own atrocities at various times in other parts of the world. It just seems unproductive to keep looking backwards, and to think that one should benefit today from atrocities that happened up their ancestors. Sadly, when you look at the most successful slave revolt (Haiti) resulting in a substantial empowerment of former slaves, things did not turn out so well in the end looking at current day Haiti. Not at all to say that that was the only trajectory possible at all, but it seems pretty speculative to assume that U.S. Slaves' descendants would have been better off financially under other circumstances.

You should just say "black people need to get over it." Do you understand that the what happened "generations back" has had a significant impact on the decedents of the people effected? Black people would get over it if it didn't have an impact. Guess what? It did, and it continues too.

Do you think its a simple coincidence that black with college education unemployment rates = white high school drop out unemployment? To take it even further: Employment success of blacks with degrees from elite colleges = whites from less selective schools. Guess those blacks need to "work harder."

Did you know that blacks/brown are still arrested and incarcerated more for similar or less severe crimes than whites? That schools with majority black and brown students generally have lower quality teachers? Teachers in general have lower overall expectations of black and brown students? That black and brown kids are suspended and disciplined in K-12 more than whites and others for similar or less offenses? They still pay higher interest rates on loans than whites and other races with similar or better credit? The evidence here is pretty large, so we can do this for a while.

Does racism have to mean a whip and white hood and burning cross in order for you to acknowledge that it exists and still negatively impacts POC-- primarily those whose ancestors are from here? If you want to remove policies such as AA that attempt to correct for historical atrocities, then would you pledge to help fight for policies that help eliminate the ones from today? Also, would you support economic policy that could help restore the loss of wealth and opportunities which were mainly made available to majority of AAs over the last 60 years?

Historical amnesia is convenient to those who it most benefits.

Actually, it's understanding a wide enough scope of world history to understand that many, many people have been oppressed or otherwise suffered atrocities, and that African Americans are not at all alone in that. Not by a long shot. And I wouldn't blame all of the above issues on racism. Yes, it exists, absolutely no doubt (and African Americans are as likely as anyone else to be racist in my experience). But to blame the above fully on racism is incorrect. Who forces African American girls to have multiple children out of wedlock at a disproportional rate, with all of the associated and well-studied consequences? That's not white privilege at work. It's a mix of factors but don't pretend you are African Americans are the only people who have suffered.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

Isn't if funny that people on here expect you to be ashamed? They are not ashamed because they got into college as a legacy or because they got a job based on connections. As I have said on this board and to my own children many times, if people are concerned about how and why you got where you are, that is their problem - not yours. The most important thing is to take advantage of the opportunity. Let them wonder how you got it.

I agree as long as that holds true for everyone. No assumptions people aren't qualified or hit a job or promoted because of AA, and equally no assumptions that whits privilege was part of the reason. Treat everyone equally, let their work speak for itself and don't waste time being divisive looking for another person's presumed flaws. I'm one of the earlier posters and I don't at all think anyone should be ashamed of benefitting from AA. I just take issue with the notion of payback for what happened generations back. I'm a first generation American, and like do very many Americans had no role whatsoever in slavery. My ancestors were suffering their own atrocities at various times in other parts of the world. It just seems unproductive to keep looking backwards, and to think that one should benefit today from atrocities that happened up their ancestors. Sadly, when you look at the most successful slave revolt (Haiti) resulting in a substantial empowerment of former slaves, things did not turn out so well in the end looking at current day Haiti. Not at all to say that that was the only trajectory possible at all, but it seems pretty speculative to assume that U.S. Slaves' descendants would have been better off financially under other circumstances.

You should just say "black people need to get over it." Do you understand that the what happened "generations back" has had a significant impact on the decedents of the people effected? Black people would get over it if it didn't have an impact. Guess what? It did, and it continues too.

Do you think its a simple coincidence that black with college education unemployment rates = white high school drop out unemployment? To take it even further: Employment success of blacks with degrees from elite colleges = whites from less selective schools. Guess those blacks need to "work harder."

Did you know that blacks/brown are still arrested and incarcerated more for similar or less severe crimes than whites? That schools with majority black and brown students generally have lower quality teachers? Teachers in general have lower overall expectations of black and brown students? That black and brown kids are suspended and disciplined in K-12 more than whites and others for similar or less offenses? They still pay higher interest rates on loans than whites and other races with similar or better credit? The evidence here is pretty large, so we can do this for a while.

Does racism have to mean a whip and white hood and burning cross in order for you to acknowledge that it exists and still negatively impacts POC-- primarily those whose ancestors are from here? If you want to remove policies such as AA that attempt to correct for historical atrocities, then would you pledge to help fight for policies that help eliminate the ones from today? Also, would you support economic policy that could help restore the loss of wealth and opportunities which were mainly made available to majority of AAs over the last 60 years?

Historical amnesia is convenient to those who it most benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

Isn't if funny that people on here expect you to be ashamed? They are not ashamed because they got into college as a legacy or because they got a job based on connections. As I have said on this board and to my own children many times, if people are concerned about how and why you got where you are, that is their problem - not yours. The most important thing is to take advantage of the opportunity. Let them wonder how you got it.

I agree as long as that holds true for everyone. No assumptions people aren't qualified or hit a job or promoted because of AA, and equally no assumptions that whits privilege was part of the reason. Treat everyone equally, let their work speak for itself and don't waste time being divisive looking for another person's presumed flaws. I'm one of the earlier posters and I don't at all think anyone should be ashamed of benefitting from AA. I just take issue with the notion of payback for what happened generations back. I'm a first generation American, and like do very many Americans had no role whatsoever in slavery. My ancestors were suffering their own atrocities at various times in other parts of the world. It just seems unproductive to keep looking backwards, and to think that one should benefit today from atrocities that happened up their ancestors. Sadly, when you look at the most successful slave revolt (Haiti) resulting in a substantial empowerment of former slaves, things did not turn out so well in the end looking at current day Haiti. Not at all to say that that was the only trajectory possible at all, but it seems pretty speculative to assume that U.S. Slaves' descendants would have been better off financially under other circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

You do realize most people who read your post do NOT believe you, right? I mean, really...

Should I be concerned about proving anything to you or anyone else? I'm not.

However, I do recognize that if people don't believe me it's most likely because they don't want to believe me. A successful Black woman who has benefited from AA who embraces that fact. You want me to feel ashamed, and I don't. It also bothers you that I enjoy more material success than most of you posting here. If my arrogance offends you...too bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

Isn't if funny that people on here expect you to be ashamed? They are not ashamed because they got into college as a legacy or because they got a job based on connections. As I have said on this board and to my own children many times, if people are concerned about how and why you got where you are, that is their problem - not yours. The most important thing is to take advantage of the opportunity. Let them wonder how you got it.

Anonymous wrote:I post this over and over. When selective colleges look to fill their classes they try and construct a class with diverse students for two reasons: one is that they cannot have the best and brightest without being inclusive. Not all the bright and talented people are white or asian and (2) if they don't have a diverse student body they cannot offer a world class education. Being truly educated means that you know about the world and who inhabits it, not just a small slice of humanity. The idea that if your child gets in and mine who has higher scores and a higher GPA from a similar school does not get in, does not bother me because grades and scores are very narrow measures of achievement. Your child might also offer the college many things that mine does not, e.g. first hand knowledge about living in a racist community or playing the french horn.This has been said again and again. A top 20 college could easily fill its class with straight A and perfect to near perfect test takers, but they choose not too. They choose to look at the whole student and judge what this student will bring to their community. There is nothing discriminatory about this. No one is entitled to a place because of any particular trait or achievement.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, careful review of the decision indicates that the door is left open for future challenges. As a practical matter, though, the Court will soon have a 7-2 liberal majority (Thomas and Kennedy will retire soon, I think). So it seems like Justice Marshall's view that affirmative action will endure for centuries more is, in fact, accurate.

Didn't Kennedy write this opinion? And didn't he based his decision on deference to the school's stated need for diversity -- which is not at all a strict scrutiny analysis. But I'm just going on what I read in a news account, not the actual opinion.

It could be argued that strict scrutiny was only given lip service. And the point I was trying to make is that with a 7-2 liberal majority coming soon (Kennedy is unpredictable on these issues), there will be zero chance of the Court upholding challenges to affirmative action. So there it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

Isn't if funny that people on here expect you to be ashamed? They are not ashamed because they got into college as a legacy or because they got a job based on connections. As I have said on this board and to my own children many times, if people are concerned about how and why you got where you are, that is their problem - not yours. The most important thing is to take advantage of the opportunity. Let them wonder how you got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.

But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.

Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!

I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.

It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.

cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

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Should I be concerned about proving anything to you or anyone else? I'm not.

However, I do recognize that if people don't believe me it's most likely because they don't want to believe me. A successful Black woman who has benefited from AA who embraces that fact. You want me to feel ashamed, and I don't. It also bothers you that I enjoy more material success than most of you posting here. If my arrogance offends you...too bad.

I think people have hard time understanding how you can live yourself knowing you didn't get where you are by your own merit.