Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 17:22     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
OP, here is a link to the Haricots Verts thread. You can see how that turns out.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/298791.page
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 17:19     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look up "Haricorts Verts" on DCUM to see how that turned out.



Otoh, look up Cap City and see how that turned out. Or Two Rivers. Or Yu Ying. Or Mundo Verde.


Oh, did they start out by someone suggesting on DCUM that it would be great to all get together to start a school?

I didn't think so.




No, you didn't think at all. It was a neighborhood listserv, actually. The founders didn't even know each other to begin with, so - it was quite a lot like DCUM except a smaller pool of readers/participants.

Keep being you.


It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was people on DCUM who got together on a Listserv and didn't even get to the point where they could meet because it broke down so quickly. I know because I was one of the wide-eyes optimistic people who relied and wanted to do it. You need a lot more than an idea to create a charter school.




No you don't. Really, it's not a secret that this specific example is one of the most sought-after schools in the District, and yes, it started on a neighborhood listserv. Pipe down, since you obviously don't know what you're bloviating about.


It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was a Listserv started by the people on te DCUM threadZ continuing to treat that it was a neighborhood Listserv will not make it so.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 15:10     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look up "Haricorts Verts" on DCUM to see how that turned out.



Otoh, look up Cap City and see how that turned out. Or Two Rivers. Or Yu Ying. Or Mundo Verde.


Oh, did they start out by someone suggesting on DCUM that it would be great to all get together to start a school?

I didn't think so.




No, you didn't think at all. It was a neighborhood listserv, actually. The founders didn't even know each other to begin with, so - it was quite a lot like DCUM except a smaller pool of readers/participants.

Keep being you.


It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was people on DCUM who got together on a Listserv and didn't even get to the point where they could meet because it broke down so quickly. I know because I was one of the wide-eyes optimistic people who relied and wanted to do it. You need a lot more than an idea to create a charter school.




No you don't. Really, it's not a secret that this specific example is one of the most sought-after schools in the District, and yes, it started on a neighborhood listserv. Pipe down, since you obviously don't know what you're bloviating about.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 14:09     Subject: Re:Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:
That was another reference to the show Togetherness. The stereotyped rich white woman trying to take over the proposed LA charter school in the show hosted a fundraiser at her swank home. Which included a pool as most swank homes in LA do. In the climactic scene the mild-mannered main character pushed this woman into her own pool as way to show her she wasn't going to let the school be taken over without a fight.


Okay, I have to see that show.


Me too--I was sort of "meh" about it, but it sounds hilarious.


Well, don't want to get your hopes up- it's not really a comedy, although there are a few funny parts here and there. It's really just a character drama, dealing with the nuances and small things of life and our expectations. One good review said it was "a very small show with very big emotions".
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 13:31     Subject: Re:Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:So you're privatizing profit on education. The more charter schools serving tiny populations, the more money the lenders make. In the end, especially since more money is made making the deal than paying the installments, it's just payday loan churn.


Anonymous wrote:
Wait, what fundraiser has a pool?

Elitists ?


That was another reference to the show Togetherness. The stereotyped rich white woman trying to take over the proposed LA charter school in the show hosted a fundraiser at her swank home. Which included a pool as most swank homes in LA do. In the climactic scene the mild-mannered main character pushed this woman into her own pool as way to show her she wasn't going to let the school be taken over without a fight.


Okay, I have to see that show.


Me too--I was sort of "meh" about it, but it sounds hilarious.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 13:29     Subject: Re:Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Throwing out a name idea and some key concepts:

Le Petit Village

100% French Dual Immersion
French Language Arts
Singapore Math
Montessori Approach
Elegance
Excellence
Discipline
Prestige


You forgot rigor.


And Executive.


How could you forget Play-Based?!?!?
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2016 07:56     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:You didn't get the memo, PP. The purpose of public education -- especially charter school -- is to close the achievement gap.


The purpose of public education is to educate students -- all students. Closing the achievement gap is an ideal for SOME charter schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2016 23:15     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
I am with OP, creating a good charter middle school in DC is doable. Althought it requires a high investment in time.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2016 15:47     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, if we say we really want to serve disadvantage children, that should get it through the PCSB.

We can use some high SES code words that don't mean anything, like "GMO free construction", "child focused curriculum", and "chef-driven menu". If anyone questions what we're doing, we can say "What? It's not exclusive! Poor kids should have non-GMO constructed facilities too, you know."

Then we can locate it somewhere in gentrification central but far from transit to make it a little harder for low SES people to get to. If anyone questions that, we can just blame it on DCPS and Kaya Henderson not giving us a facility for free on top of a metro station.


Having been part of the starter years of a well regarded charter school popular among west of the park familes (oh, and east), this is kind of unfair. Especially the facilities. And the idea that there shouldn't be charters that serve low SES but are also located/accessible and appealing to middle and high SES in the city--who by the way, also pay taxes and may want their kids to have an interesting free and public education. There are many charters that specifically are designed for low SES neighborhoods--KIPPcomes to mind. Is that the only kind allowed?


You didn't get the memo, PP. The purpose of public education -- especially charter school -- is to close the achievement gap.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2016 09:08     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:Well, if we say we really want to serve disadvantage children, that should get it through the PCSB.

We can use some high SES code words that don't mean anything, like "GMO free construction", "child focused curriculum", and "chef-driven menu". If anyone questions what we're doing, we can say "What? It's not exclusive! Poor kids should have non-GMO constructed facilities too, you know."

Then we can locate it somewhere in gentrification central but far from transit to make it a little harder for low SES people to get to. If anyone questions that, we can just blame it on DCPS and Kaya Henderson not giving us a facility for free on top of a metro station.


Having been part of the starter years of a well regarded charter school popular among west of the park familes (oh, and east), this is kind of unfair. Especially the facilities. And the idea that there shouldn't be charters that serve low SES but are also located/accessible and appealing to middle and high SES in the city--who by the way, also pay taxes and may want their kids to have an interesting free and public education. There are many charters that specifically are designed for low SES neighborhoods--KIPPcomes to mind. Is that the only kind allowed?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2016 09:02     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
It was a reference to one of the successful charters that began off a listserv. Pretty obvious with basic reading comprehension.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2016 07:04     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look up "Haricorts Verts" on DCUM to see how that turned out.



Otoh, look up Cap City and see how that turned out. Or Two Rivers. Or Yu Ying. Or Mundo Verde.


Oh, did they start out by someone suggesting on DCUM that it would be great to all get together to start a school?

I didn't think so.




No, you didn't think at all. It was a neighborhood listserv, actually. The founders didn't even know each other to begin with, so - it was quite a lot like DCUM except a smaller pool of readers/participants.

Keep being you.


It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was people on DCUM who got together on a Listserv and didn't even get to the point where they could meet because it broke down so quickly. I know because I was one of the wide-eyes optimistic people who relied and wanted to do it. You need a lot more than an idea to create a charter school.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2016 02:02     Subject: Let's start a charter middle school
DC Real PCS.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2016 23:57     Subject: Re:Let's start a charter middle school
I am hardly financially illiterate. I am fine with lending, but breaking hope has a pretty healthy profit ratio going there on those loans. And, I can also do enough math to realize that it is cheaper to not have several small schools, each with their own administration and facilities, vs. something more centralized.

Then again, seeing how dcps basically lights money on fire and builds kilns, they're not a model of efficiency.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2016 23:39     Subject: Re:Let's start a charter middle school
Anonymous wrote:So you're privatizing profit on education. The more charter schools serving tiny populations, the more money the lenders make. In the end, especially since more money is made making the deal than paying the installments, it's just payday loan churn.


Anonymous wrote:
Wait, what fundraiser has a pool?

Elitists ?


That was another reference to the show Togetherness. The stereotyped rich white woman trying to take over the proposed LA charter school in the show hosted a fundraiser at her swank home. Which included a pool as most swank homes in LA do. In the climactic scene the mild-mannered main character pushed this woman into her own pool as way to show her she wasn't going to let the school be taken over without a fight.


Okay, I have to see that show.



If the city doesn't want school funding directed towards banks (for the necessary loans to purchase/lease/renovate facilities, then it should make more of its shuttered facilities available.

People who see all forms of lending as a scam are universally financial illiterates.