Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 14:13     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


Yes I know Nader ran as an independent. I was campaigning for Gore. But the concern is that the Sanders campaign is vilifying and weakening Clinton. We can't afford that. She may win regardless. Maybe it won't make a dent. But the stakes are so high it seems folly to make her climb harder, given that the math doesn't work for Sanders.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 14:08     Subject: Re:The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.


Sure. But if a majority votes for something, the party should be falling in line behind that. That's something Republicans are very good at. And that's why they win.



Have some patience. The process is still going on. The convention is where this "falling in line" happens. We are not at the convention yet. And the Republicans may or may not be very good at this. And they don't always win.


Golly, my memory. I could have sworn Hillary suspended her 2008 campaign in early June. Thought the convention was in late August, but by your post, I must be mistaken.

For the record, although the power of gerrymander aids the Republicans, they are good foot soldiers. Liberals.... not so much.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:55     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
And if Sanders is nominated, be prepared to "fall in line" behind him.


I already said I would not only vote for him but also campaign, even though I profoundly dislike him
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:54     Subject: Re:The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.


Sure. But if a majority votes for something, the party should be falling in line behind that. That's something Republicans are very good at. And that's why they win.


Actually the party failed to fall in line last election. And they are failing this time as well.


EXACTLY. And they had problems with this the time before that too!


Oh? Is that why they are so widely represented at local and state levels?

Mark my words, they will all line behind Trump should he be the nominee
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:49     Subject: Re:The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.


Sure. But if a majority votes for something, the party should be falling in line behind that. That's something Republicans are very good at. And that's why they win.


Actually the party failed to fall in line last election. And they are failing this time as well.


EXACTLY. And they had problems with this the time before that too!
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:46     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
And if Sanders is nominated, be prepared to "fall in line" behind him.


Ok but don't hold your breath.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:45     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.


Sure. But if a majority votes for something, the party should be falling in line behind that. That's something Republicans are very good at. And that's why they win.


Actually the party failed to fall in line last election. And they are failing this time as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:44     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat

And if Sanders is nominated, be prepared to "fall in line" behind him.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 13:40     Subject: Re:The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.


Sure. But if a majority votes for something, the party should be falling in line behind that. That's something Republicans are very good at. And that's why they win.



Have some patience. The process is still going on. The convention is where this "falling in line" happens. We are not at the convention yet. And the Republicans may or may not be very good at this. And they don't always win.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 12:48     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.


Sure. But if a majority votes for something, the party should be falling in line behind that. That's something Republicans are very good at. And that's why they win.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 12:46     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.


The Dems have legitimate disagreements with the Dems. That's what a primary is about.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 10:59     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Nader ran as an independent. Sanders is doing the decent thing by making his run in the primary so that he does not do what Nader did.

I'm not voting for sanders, but he is being as responsible as one can expect, given that he has legitimate disagreements with the dems.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 10:56     Subject: Re:The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
Anonymous wrote:
My fear is that he's weakening her chances in the general. That would be tragic and much more important than him continuing to plug on.


Okay. Here it is. Finally. You are worried that Hillary is weak. That she is not strong enough to take on the Republicans. If she is not the strongest candidate, maybe she should not be the nominee. Hillary is the only one who can weaken her chances. If Sanders can do it, she wasn't strong enough. Maybe she should heed Sander's message and make herself stronger.

If she is the best candidate, you have nothing to worry about. And, as you say, Bernie is a "phony" . . . and just a "bad person" so not to worry.


You have reading problems. I didn't say she was weak. I think she's the strongest candidate. But of course any candidate can be weakened. Duh. That's my fear. That he is hurting her chances in the general. Nader weakened Gores chances. Is that because Gore was weak? No. He could have been stronger, for sure, but absent Nader he would have won.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2016 23:21     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat

Let's face it . . . if Hillary had started out with no money and no PAC support, she would not have been able to raise the kind of money that Bernie has. Bernie has a very strong message and he has worked very hard. Even Hillary says she is not a natural politician. So, yeah, we will have to get the Bernie people on board for Hillary. Hillary needs Bernie. He is honestly a godsend for her because he will end up supporting her. Who else is he going to support? Geez.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2016 23:09     Subject: The problem with Bernie: he's not much of a Democrat
A candidate spending money on a staffer is an ethical fee for service. He did do a months work of work, yes? What service does a candidate feel obliged to provide when s/he receives same from a Big? Oh... Nothing. Just "thank you." Uh-hunh.