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Anonymous wrote:Life lesson people... Never say never about anything.

I see this as kind of the whole point of this thread. There is quite a bit of hubris on this thread. "Pride goeth before the fall." Being principled and moral is a good thing. Being holier than thou is not. Humility is a virtue. So is empathy. I To be clear, that last point is directed to the unapologetic cheaters as well.

+1. Something I have learned the hard way.

I am convinced a person doesn't know what she will do in a certain situation until she is in that situation. If PP or her children are kidnapped or somehow coerced into joining ISIS, yeah, I'm pretty sure she'll join and be thankful for the opportunity. Never say never, because karma is a bitch and has a twisted way of coming back and biting you in the ass.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.

The problem here is belittling others doesn't elevate you one bit. Talk about self-esteem issues...

People with self esteem issue are always pointing to self esteem. I am not belittling people. ISIS supporters are crazy, you think I am saying that because I have self esteem issues.

It is known that when somebody goes to therapy and tells their therapist they had an affair the 1st thing the therapist does is try to figure out what is wrong with that person. They don't try to blame the marriage. They try to figure out if they are depressed, have anxieties, have a personality disorder, addiction issues, were abused as a child, was a victim of assault. Cheaters blame others for their issues. That is pathetic and selfish. That is a fact. Not something that make me feel better since I see my kid's friend's parents blowing up their lives for their own selfish pursuits and they refuse to get help.

Case closed

Unless you are personally familiar with medical diagnoses of ISIS supporters, saying they are crazy is literally saying nothing. Your views on cheating are determined by your personality and the lens through which you were conditioned to see the world. They are not indicative of the objective reality. Get out of DC, or better US altogether, and you'll hear a range of attitudes about cheating you could not possibly imagine. The self-help psychobabble you're reciting is not universally accepted or even known. When you label cheaters as "pathetic" or "selfish," you pass unnecessary judgement and reveal your own insecurities about adult relations.

Yep denial, aside from common sense cheating is another form of abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.

The problem here is belittling others doesn't elevate you one bit. Talk about self-esteem issues...

People with self esteem issue are always pointing to self esteem. I am not belittling people. ISIS supporters are crazy, you think I am saying that because I have self esteem issues.

It is known that when somebody goes to therapy and tells their therapist they had an affair the 1st thing the therapist does is try to figure out what is wrong with that person. They don't try to blame the marriage. They try to figure out if they are depressed, have anxieties, have a personality disorder, addiction issues, were abused as a child, was a victim of assault. Cheaters blame others for their issues. That is pathetic and selfish. That is a fact. Not something that make me feel better since I see my kid's friend's parents blowing up their lives for their own selfish pursuits and they refuse to get help.

Case closed

Unless you are personally familiar with medical diagnoses of ISIS supporters, saying they are crazy is literally saying nothing. Your views on cheating are determined by your personality and the lens through which you were conditioned to see the world. They are not indicative of the objective reality. Get out of DC, or better US altogether, and you'll hear a range of attitudes about cheating you could not possibly imagine. The self-help psychobabble you're reciting is not universally accepted or even known. When you label cheaters as "pathetic" or "selfish," you pass unnecessary judgement and reveal your own insecurities about adult relations.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.

The problem here is belittling others doesn't elevate you one bit. Talk about self-esteem issues...

People with self esteem issue are always pointing to self esteem. I am not belittling people. ISIS supporters are crazy, you think I am saying that because I have self esteem issues.

It is known that when somebody goes to therapy and tells their therapist they had an affair the 1st thing the therapist does is try to figure out what is wrong with that person. They don't try to blame the marriage. They try to figure out if they are depressed, have anxieties, have a personality disorder, addiction issues, were abused as a child, was a victim of assault. Cheaters blame others for their issues. That is pathetic and selfish. That is a fact. Not something that make me feel better since I see my kid's friend's parents blowing up their lives for their own selfish pursuits and they refuse to get help.

#1

It's obvious to most "normal" functioning people. Cheaters are like alcoholics, druggies, abusers, etc. they are in denial and will deflect blame onto their victim or others. Not worth wasting oxygen on those people.

I'm still trying to figure out who Chester is and why he's so sensitive.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.

The problem here is belittling others doesn't elevate you one bit. Talk about self-esteem issues...

People with self esteem issue are always pointing to self esteem. I am not belittling people. ISIS supporters are crazy, you think I am saying that because I have self esteem issues.

It is known that when somebody goes to therapy and tells their therapist they had an affair the 1st thing the therapist does is try to figure out what is wrong with that person. They don't try to blame the marriage. They try to figure out if they are depressed, have anxieties, have a personality disorder, addiction issues, were abused as a child, was a victim of assault. Cheaters blame others for their issues. That is pathetic and selfish. That is a fact. Not something that make me feel better since I see my kid's friend's parents blowing up their lives for their own selfish pursuits and they refuse to get help.

#1

It's obvious to most "normal" functioning people. Cheaters are like alcoholics, druggies, abusers, etc. they are in denial and will deflect blame onto their victim or others. Not worth wasting oxygen on those people.

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Anonymous wrote:Life lesson people... Never say never about anything.

I will never join ISIS... OMG ... here I go to Syria... NOT.

Nice strawman. Now, back to reality. Are you saying you've never done anything in your marriage you regret? Hid spending from your spouse? Took out your anger on them? Withheld sex? Bad mouthed them to your friends or relatives? The list of things we all do that we know we shouldn't is endless. None of us is without sin or without need of forgiveness. Well, okay, Donald Trump says he doesn't need to ask forgiveness for anything, but the rest of us mortals are very imperfect creatures.

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Anonymous wrote:Life lesson people... Never say never about anything.

I see this as kind of the whole point of this thread. There is quite a bit of hubris on this thread. "Pride goeth before the fall." Being principled and moral is a good thing. Being holier than thou is not. Humility is a virtue. So is empathy. I To be clear, that last point is directed to the unapologetic cheaters as well.

+1. Something I have learned the hard way.

Anonymous wrote:Life lesson people... Never say never about anything.

I will never join ISIS... OMG ... here I go to Syria... NOT.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.

The problem here is belittling others doesn't elevate you one bit. Talk about self-esteem issues...

People with self esteem issue are always pointing to self esteem. I am not belittling people. ISIS supporters are crazy, you think I am saying that because I have self esteem issues.

It is known that when somebody goes to therapy and tells their therapist they had an affair the 1st thing the therapist does is try to figure out what is wrong with that person. They don't try to blame the marriage. They try to figure out if they are depressed, have anxieties, have a personality disorder, addiction issues, were abused as a child, was a victim of assault. Cheaters blame others for their issues. That is pathetic and selfish. That is a fact. Not something that make me feel better since I see my kid's friend's parents blowing up their lives for their own selfish pursuits and they refuse to get help.

Anonymous wrote:Life lesson people... Never say never about anything.

I see this as kind of the whole point of this thread. There is quite a bit of hubris on this thread. "Pride goeth before the fall." Being principled and moral is a good thing. Being holier than thou is not. Humility is a virtue. So is empathy. I To be clear, that last point is directed to the unapologetic cheaters as well.

Life lesson people... Never say never about anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.

The problem here is belittling others doesn't elevate you one bit. Talk about self-esteem issues...

Just don't judge. Against cheating? Don't cheat. It's really not that hard. Other people's business is off limits.

Been married 8 years. Wont say I would never cheat, but in the 8 plus years together, I have never been tempted. I have young kids and just not worth destabilizing our marriage or hurting spouse even though philosophically I dont see sex in and of itself as a huge deal and would be interested in a more open marriage if I thought it could actually work within the context of a stable, happy marriage, but I dont think it does, most of the time.

I have cheated in the past, though. In my late 20s/early 30s I played a bit fast and loose. Combination of extremely high sex drive, somewhat low self esteem, fear of intimacy and constantly having opportunities to sleep with different people....I cheated on one boyfriend (who had not been faithful to me); came close to cheating on another, and often ended one relationship by deciding that I wanted to sleep with someone else so I broke up or eased my way out of things so I could get what I wanted (or slept with someone else as a way of ending another relationship). Not proud of any of that behavior, just glad its no longer part of my life.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I'd never cheat. Never. It's not okay. If you are miserable and want to end your marriage, then be honest about it. Cheaters are the biggest losers.

Yeah. We are. But, there it is. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Chester are so sensitive.

Isis is a bunch of crazy m'fers. Does that make me feel better? No.

Cheaters are a bunch of pathetic, selfish losers with huge self esteem issues. Does that make me feel better? No.