Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:38     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't every CEO in America now call the president-elect and say 'we're considering a move to Mexico unless...well...make me an offer'

yes, they should all play that game.

oh, and love the part where he's backtracking yet again, this time on levying tariffs for goods manufactured overseas by American companies. Another promise broken.


Not backtracking, he's toning down the rhetoric.

Second, as Trump has plainly stated, many of his positions are meant to establish negotiating posture. He can and will compromise where desirable to meet his goals. This is how business gets done. Maybe it's just 1000 jobs, but when was the last time any president lifted a finger like this to help Americans? Usually it is an impersonal attempt to accomplish things through policy. This guy actually got involved. To paraphrase the current First Lady, first time I've been proud of a president since Bush was at ground zero.


And it is wholly inappropriate for a POTUS or PETOUS to be picking winners and losers in corporate america.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:33     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't every CEO in America now call the president-elect and say 'we're considering a move to Mexico unless...well...make me an offer'

yes, they should all play that game.

oh, and love the part where he's backtracking yet again, this time on levying tariffs for goods manufactured overseas by American companies. Another promise broken.


Not backtracking, he's toning down the rhetoric.

Second, as Trump has plainly stated, many of his positions are meant to establish negotiating posture. He can and will compromise where desirable to meet his goals. This is how business gets done. Maybe it's just 1000 jobs, but when was the last time any president lifted a finger like this to help Americans? Usually it is an impersonal attempt to accomplish things through policy. This guy actually got involved. To paraphrase the current First Lady, first time I've been proud of a president since Bush was at ground zero.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:24     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't every CEO in America now call the president-elect and say 'we're considering a move to Mexico unless...well...make me an offer'

yes, they should all play that game.

oh, and love the part where he's backtracking yet again, this time on levying tariffs for goods manufactured overseas by American companies. Another promise broken.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:20     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

LOL. A president elect actually stands up for the working class and confronts business leaders and all you guys can do is find negatives? According to the NYT he promised no special favors and presumably regulatory reform would be neutral/apply to all parties evenly. And yet you guys complain?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:20     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Shouldn't every CEO in America now call the president-elect and say 'we're considering a move to Mexico unless...well...make me an offer'
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:17     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

And capitalism, that was quaint too.

GOP is no longer the free-market party.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:16     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:Governors, not Presidents. jurisdictions induce companies all the time, but not Presidents.

So which state gets preference? Which Company? Trump is literally going to be picking winners and losers.

That isn't how our country works. Well at least it wasn't.


Remember the outrage over Solyndra? Seems quaint now.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:13     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Governors, not Presidents. jurisdictions induce companies all the time, but not Presidents.

So which state gets preference? Which Company? Trump is literally going to be picking winners and losers.

That isn't how our country works. Well at least it wasn't.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 21:02     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Per NYT:

"In exchange for keeping the factory running in Indianapolis, Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence are expected to reiterate their campaign pledges to be friendlier to business by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code. In addition, Mr. Trump is expected to tone down his rhetoric threatening 35 percent tariffs on companies like Carrier that shift production south of the border."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

No strong-arming needed when retail regulatory regimes work just fine. Welcome to the United States of Corporatocracy. Trump will hand the keys to the US to a few choice CEOs in exchange for a meager handful of jobs...and his supporters will love him for it while democracy slowly dies.



This is truly a horrible precedent for our country.


Are you kidding? this is what governors should be doing every time a company wants to move, and precisely what Trump was elected to do.

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 20:51     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:Per NYT:

"In exchange for keeping the factory running in Indianapolis, Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence are expected to reiterate their campaign pledges to be friendlier to business by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code. In addition, Mr. Trump is expected to tone down his rhetoric threatening 35 percent tariffs on companies like Carrier that shift production south of the border."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

No strong-arming needed when retail regulatory regimes work just fine. Welcome to the United States of Corporatocracy. Trump will hand the keys to the US to a few choice CEOs in exchange for a meager handful of jobs...and his supporters will love him for it while democracy slowly dies.



This is truly a horrible precedent for our country.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 20:18     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Anonymous wrote:Gee I'm not surprised once he threatened to pull United Technologies' defense business. I'm sure they are happy to prop up a money losing factory with 1500 jobs with billions in defense on the line.

Sad that the strategy will have to go 1500 jobs at a time and using blackmail. Meanwhile the government is not allowed to negotiate drug prices for us.


I would actually feel better if Trump strong-armed them instead of sweet-talked them.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 20:17     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Per NYT:

"In exchange for keeping the factory running in Indianapolis, Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence are expected to reiterate their campaign pledges to be friendlier to business by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code. In addition, Mr. Trump is expected to tone down his rhetoric threatening 35 percent tariffs on companies like Carrier that shift production south of the border."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

No strong-arming needed when retail regulatory regimes work just fine. Welcome to the United States of Corporatocracy. Trump will hand the keys to the US to a few choice CEOs in exchange for a meager handful of jobs...and his supporters will love him for it while democracy slowly dies.

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 20:11     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

Gee I'm not surprised once he threatened to pull United Technologies' defense business. I'm sure they are happy to prop up a money losing factory with 1500 jobs with billions in defense on the line.

Sad that the strategy will have to go 1500 jobs at a time and using blackmail. Meanwhile the government is not allowed to negotiate drug prices for us.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 20:06     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

This is actually dangerous and so much for the free market the GOP claims to espouse.

Will companies now have to succumb to threats from the fearless leader?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2016 19:30     Subject: United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

So I guess the Donald strong armed United Technologies into leaving the plant in Indiana. Great for the jobs, but I guess Capitalism is dead and we are left with the new leaders fiat to rule the land.

Very bittersweet.