Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:41     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


Huh? I am a woman. What do you mean "we need to be on the map"? I look around and I see professional, successful women accomplishing all kinds of things. I don't look to any presidential candidate to put women on the map. We're on the map. I also don't need the president to be one gender over another to feel "heard."

It's not the president who allows women to be heard. It's the president who is suppose to hear the people -- including women.

Arguing some sense of entitlement to the presidency or "turn" is only going to turn people away from HRC, so if you really want her to win, then I would caution you against doing that.


Preach it, Sistuh
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:41     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:22:33 here again. I also start to doubt a candidate's willingness to hear me and my voice when president if her campaign implies that she is somehow owed my vote because we're both women.

I don't dislike HRC, but the more I hear about how I'm supposed to vote for her because I'm a woman and I'd be stupid to consider Bernie is really turning me away.


Funny, it's Bernies comments and temper tantrum about Planned Parenthood that lost my vote
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:40     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with the establishment folks: they are invested in maintaining the status quo, in rewarding the system that got them there. So no, I do not believe that Hillary will break up the banks, take money out of politics, fight for campaign finance reform, increase the minimum wage, work for fair wages, get rid of tax loopholes for the 1%, etc.


Pretty much this.


Takes a constitutional amendment to fix campaign financing so that's not happening anytime soon.


Seriously, I feel like Bernie supporters have forgotten that we have a constitution. The president doesn't get a magic wand at inauguration that he can wave to fix everything? Y'all understand how that works, yes? Have you been around for the past 7 years?


And how will Hillary be better?


Oh dear, here we go. I don't know, pp, but she is not promising the moon, and she's very aware of what the Constitution says. I believe she is very close to Obama in her approach and I like Obama. A lot. And he somehow managed to make some headway despite deep opposition. She will be the same. Her plans are more gradual, so she will probably be more successful in convincing moderates to cooperate
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:39     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
22:33 here again. I also start to doubt a candidate's willingness to hear me and my voice when president if her campaign implies that she is somehow owed my vote because we're both women.

I don't dislike HRC, but the more I hear about how I'm supposed to vote for her because I'm a woman and I'd be stupid to consider Bernie is really turning me away.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:38     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with the establishment folks: they are invested in maintaining the status quo, in rewarding the system that got them there. So no, I do not believe that Hillary will break up the banks, take money out of politics, fight for campaign finance reform, increase the minimum wage, work for fair wages, get rid of tax loopholes for the 1%, etc.


Pretty much this.


Takes a constitutional amendment to fix campaign financing so that's not happening anytime soon.


Seriously, I feel like Bernie supporters have forgotten that we have a constitution. The president doesn't get a magic wand at inauguration that he can wave to fix everything? Y'all understand how that works, yes? Have you been around for the past 7 years?


Hold your politicians accountable. The only way to do that is by voting. That's it.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:37     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


Oh my. Unless women's interests are corporate interests, I'm not buying this as an argument to vote Hillary over Sanders. She took the performance enhancing drugs just like everyone else did in politics, and no one thought for a minute that a real life politician would show up to challenge her and "the establishment" on this point. Because there were only a handful of people who could do it with any level of sincerity or integrity. Just about EVERYONE ELSE sold out.

Oops, Bernie announced. His pee is clean. Plus he has progressive bona-fides.


This isn't even English.


Sure it is. Think Tour de France, baseball, Red Curtain swimmers.... and now think politics, Super PACs, and corporate influence on legislation and policy.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:36     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


I'm a woman, and I want to be heard, and I am sick and tired of money making political decisions in our country, from gun control, prison reform, health care, etc.

I will use my voice/vote in support of Bernie.


If you care about Gun control. You have the wrong candidate.


No one can fight gun control until (a) the American electorate wants to take bold action and/or (b) money is out of politics. It's all money. Period.


I absolutely agree with the money in politics statement. How can POTUS Sanders fix that at federal and state level?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:36     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with the establishment folks: they are invested in maintaining the status quo, in rewarding the system that got them there. So no, I do not believe that Hillary will break up the banks, take money out of politics, fight for campaign finance reform, increase the minimum wage, work for fair wages, get rid of tax loopholes for the 1%, etc.


Pretty much this.


Takes a constitutional amendment to fix campaign financing so that's not happening anytime soon.


Seriously, I feel like Bernie supporters have forgotten that we have a constitution. The president doesn't get a magic wand at inauguration that he can wave to fix everything? Y'all understand how that works, yes? Have you been around for the past 7 years?


And how will Hillary be better?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:36     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


Huh? I am a woman. What do you mean "we need to be on the map"? I look around and I see professional, successful women accomplishing all kinds of things. I don't look to any presidential candidate to put women on the map. We're on the map. I also don't need the president to be one gender over another to feel "heard."

It's not the president who allows women to be heard. It's the president who is suppose to hear the people -- including women.

Arguing some sense of entitlement to the presidency or "turn" is only going to turn people away from HRC, so if you really want her to win, then I would caution you against doing that.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:35     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with the establishment folks: they are invested in maintaining the status quo, in rewarding the system that got them there. So no, I do not believe that Hillary will break up the banks, take money out of politics, fight for campaign finance reform, increase the minimum wage, work for fair wages, get rid of tax loopholes for the 1%, etc.


Pretty much this.


Takes a constitutional amendment to fix campaign financing so that's not happening anytime soon.


Seriously, I feel like Bernie supporters have forgotten that we have a constitution. The president doesn't get a magic wand at inauguration that he can wave to fix everything? Y'all understand how that works, yes? Have you been around for the past 7 years?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:34     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


I'm a woman, and I want to be heard, and I am sick and tired of money making political decisions in our country, from gun control, prison reform, health care, etc.

I will use my voice/vote in support of Bernie.


If you care about Gun control. You have the wrong candidate.


No one can fight gun control until (a) the American electorate wants to take bold action and/or (b) money is out of politics. It's all money. Period.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:33     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


I'm a woman, and I want to be heard, and I am sick and tired of money making political decisions in our country, from gun control, prison reform, health care, etc.

I will use my voice/vote in support of Bernie.


If you care about Gun control. You have the wrong candidate.


Bernie will not stand in the way of something that has popular support just because of corporate interests.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:33     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


Oh my. Unless women's interests are corporate interests, I'm not buying this as an argument to vote Hillary over Sanders. She took the performance enhancing drugs just like everyone else did in politics, and no one thought for a minute that a real life politician would show up to challenge her and "the establishment" on this point. Because there were only a handful of people who could do it with any level of sincerity or integrity. Just about EVERYONE ELSE sold out.

Oops, Bernie announced. His pee is clean. Plus he has progressive bona-fides.


This isn't even English.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:32     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


Oh my. Unless women's interests are corporate interests, I'm not buying this as an argument to vote Hillary over Sanders. She took the performance enhancing drugs just like everyone else did in politics, and no one thought for a minute that a real life politician would show up to challenge her and "the establishment" on this point. Because there were only a handful of people who could do it with any level of sincerity or integrity. Just about EVERYONE ELSE sold out.

Oops, Bernie announced. His pee is clean. Plus he has progressive bona-fides.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2016 22:32     Subject: Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but it's Hillary's turn. It's women's turn. It's our turn. Fuck another white man in office, I don't care how liberal he is. Women need to be heard and we need to be on the map. It's fucking time.


I'm a woman, and I want to be heard, and I am sick and tired of money making political decisions in our country, from gun control, prison reform, health care, etc.

I will use my voice/vote in support of Bernie.


If you care about Gun control. You have the wrong candidate.