Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew once I got on Dcum someone would be reporting about the poor Muslim woman and her companion who were removed from the Trump rally for "doing nothing".
CNN and other sites are posting about a Muslim woman Rose Hamid and another man, who stood up in protest of trump. The articles have been saying the crowd was very rude and aggressive against them, painting the crowd as being thuggish.
A search of Rose Hamid reveals that she is a Muslim activist, in late 1990 she started wearing a hijab against airline regulations and took it to court in a case of airline regs vs religious freedom of expression. Her case helped set precedent to forcing companies to accept the hijab in the workplace, despite company clothing and appearance guidelines. She also has many articles and stories about how she is a good Muslim woman trying to fit in to america.
The other person, Marty Rosenbluth, is an immigration activist and lawyer. They were there to make a scene, and make the Trump supporters and Trump appear bad, and no one appears to be reporting their backgrounds. It's much more sensational to leave out the facts.
What part of that is relevant to this case? They did nothing at the event that warranted ejection from the event. They were not saying or doing anything objetionable.
Unless you were seated behind them, Einstein.
Those who wish to stand, must stand in the back of the room. Duh.
People stand up at political rallies. They only ejected these two. They could easily have asked them to move to a standing area rather than treating them like criminals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
I don't recall Jews committing murder in the name of their religion all around the globe, nor do I recall Jews mass-molesting women in large groups, simply for fun.
And aren't you assuming that those supporting the wait and see approach to mass Muslim integration is due to racism? That seems to be your only defense at those that object to the German attacks. As a woman who was molestedcas a teen by an unrepentant Muslim man, do NOT speak for me. If you choose to do so, and ridicule those that question, it would seem fit that you should let your boys stay alone at one of these migrant camps. After all, there is nothing to fear, and if you think that might be risky, you are simply Islamophobic as well
I am sure that Jews have done something bad in the course of history and I am similarly sure that you would call me an anti-Semite if I blamed all Jews for that act. The fact that you can't understand what is wrong with holding a peaceful person who is merely standing up guilty for the acts of a group that would likely kill her if they had the opportunity demonstrates just how blinded your are by prejudice. If your only defense against the ejection of these two individuals is to scream "ISIS", then you are simply a bigot who had no defense.
Find it. Find me a current, ongoing issue with Jews killing, sexually assualying and raping en masse.
Ejecting someone from a rally for protesting is nothing new, nor limited to Trump. I guess if you are Obama and Clinton and hand-select your attendees, no issues. If you don't, you get protesters who can be escorted out. They were there pre-plannned and fit a purpose. They did their thing. Time to go
It is not bigoted to want to protect our own from what happened in Germany. It IS repulsive to parse a mass sexual assault. It is also repulsive to use our military and German nationals as false cloaks in an 'everybody does it' defense.
It's not only repulsive, it smacks of a mindset so defensive, that reality is but a pipe dream
You asked, but really the info is out there, you simply do not care.
http://www.1202.org.il/en/union/info/statistics/arcci-statistics
Also,
In 2003, Israeli army rabbi, Colonel Eyal Qarim issued the Jewish fatwa that rape of enemy women was not forbidden. He based his interpretation of Jewish Bible (OT) which quoted (sic) prophet Moses to kill all female prisoners except 3-year-old girls and use them as sex-slaves.
Israeli judge Judge Nissim Yeshaya while hearing a gang rape of a 19-year-old Jewish woman said: “Some women do enjoy rape.”
"The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle)," -Chabad-Lubavitch rabbis, Manis Friedman
Zionism is a crime against humanity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew once I got on Dcum someone would be reporting about the poor Muslim woman and her companion who were removed from the Trump rally for "doing nothing".
CNN and other sites are posting about a Muslim woman Rose Hamid and another man, who stood up in protest of trump. The articles have been saying the crowd was very rude and aggressive against them, painting the crowd as being thuggish.
A search of Rose Hamid reveals that she is a Muslim activist, in late 1990 she started wearing a hijab against airline regulations and took it to court in a case of airline regs vs religious freedom of expression. Her case helped set precedent to forcing companies to accept the hijab in the workplace, despite company clothing and appearance guidelines. She also has many articles and stories about how she is a good Muslim woman trying to fit in to america.
The other person, Marty Rosenbluth, is an immigration activist and lawyer. They were there to make a scene, and make the Trump supporters and Trump appear bad, and no one appears to be reporting their backgrounds. It's much more sensational to leave out the facts.
What part of that is relevant to this case? They did nothing at the event that warranted ejection from the event. They were not saying or doing anything objetionable.
Unless you were seated behind them, Einstein.
Those who wish to stand, must stand in the back of the room. Duh.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
I don't recall Jews committing murder in the name of their religion all around the globe, nor do I recall Jews mass-molesting women in large groups, simply for fun.
And aren't you assuming that those supporting the wait and see approach to mass Muslim integration is due to racism? That seems to be your only defense at those that object to the German attacks. As a woman who was molestedcas a teen by an unrepentant Muslim man, do NOT speak for me. If you choose to do so, and ridicule those that question, it would seem fit that you should let your boys stay alone at one of these migrant camps. After all, there is nothing to fear, and if you think that might be risky, you are simply Islamophobic as well
I am sure that Jews have done something bad in the course of history and I am similarly sure that you would call me an anti-Semite if I blamed all Jews for that act. The fact that you can't understand what is wrong with holding a peaceful person who is merely standing up guilty for the acts of a group that would likely kill her if they had the opportunity demonstrates just how blinded your are by prejudice. If your only defense against the ejection of these two individuals is to scream "ISIS", then you are simply a bigot who had no defense.
Find it. Find me a current, ongoing issue with Jews killing, sexually assualying and raping en masse.
Ejecting someone from a rally for protesting is nothing new, nor limited to Trump. I guess if you are Obama and Clinton and hand-select your attendees, no issues. If you don't, you get protesters who can be escorted out. They were there pre-plannned and fit a purpose. They did their thing. Time to go
It is not bigoted to want to protect our own from what happened in Germany. It IS repulsive to parse a mass sexual assault. It is also repulsive to use our military and German nationals as false cloaks in an 'everybody does it' defense.
It's not only repulsive, it smacks of a mindset so defensive, that reality is but a pipe dream
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
I don't recall Jews committing murder in the name of their religion all around the globe, nor do I recall Jews mass-molesting women in large groups, simply for fun.
And aren't you assuming that those supporting the wait and see approach to mass Muslim integration is due to racism? That seems to be your only defense at those that object to the German attacks. As a woman who was molestedcas a teen by an unrepentant Muslim man, do NOT speak for me. If you choose to do so, and ridicule those that question, it would seem fit that you should let your boys stay alone at one of these migrant camps. After all, there is nothing to fear, and if you think that might be risky, you are simply Islamophobic as well
I am sure that Jews have done something bad in the course of history and I am similarly sure that you would call me an anti-Semite if I blamed all Jews for that act. The fact that you can't understand what is wrong with holding a peaceful person who is merely standing up guilty for the acts of a group that would likely kill her if they had the opportunity demonstrates just how blinded your are by prejudice. If your only defense against the ejection of these two individuals is to scream "ISIS", then you are simply a bigot who had no defense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If someone standing silently at a political rally is considered so threatening and disruptive to you that you feel the need to call armed security to throw them out, there is something very, deeply wrong with your campaign and ideology.
So what is the point of them doing it at all?
They did it to show that not all Muslims are the dangerous animals and monsters that Trump makes them out to be. They succeeded in showing that Trump and his followers are the monsters.
Except at least one of them maybe wasn't even Muslim? Is it possible they mainly just wanted attention, not so different than Trump himself?
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
I don't recall Jews committing murder in the name of their religion all around the globe, nor do I recall Jews mass-molesting women in large groups, simply for fun.
And aren't you assuming that those supporting the wait and see approach to mass Muslim integration is due to racism? That seems to be your only defense at those that object to the German attacks. As a woman who was molestedcas a teen by an unrepentant Muslim man, do NOT speak for me. If you choose to do so, and ridicule those that question, it would seem fit that you should let your boys stay alone at one of these migrant camps. After all, there is nothing to fear, and if you think that might be risky, you are simply Islamophobic as well
I am sure that Jews have done something bad in the course of history and I am similarly sure that you would call me an anti-Semite if I blamed all Jews for that act. The fact that you can't understand what is wrong with holding a peaceful person who is merely standing up guilty for the acts of a group that would likely kill her if they had the opportunity demonstrates just how blinded your are by prejudice. If your only defense against the ejection of these two individuals is to scream "ISIS", then you are simply a bigot who had no defense.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
I don't recall Jews committing murder in the name of their religion all around the globe, nor do I recall Jews mass-molesting women in large groups, simply for fun.
And aren't you assuming that those supporting the wait and see approach to mass Muslim integration is due to racism? That seems to be your only defense at those that object to the German attacks. As a woman who was molestedcas a teen by an unrepentant Muslim man, do NOT speak for me. If you choose to do so, and ridicule those that question, it would seem fit that you should let your boys stay alone at one of these migrant camps. After all, there is nothing to fear, and if you think that might be risky, you are simply Islamophobic as well
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If someone standing silently at a political rally is considered so threatening and disruptive to you that you feel the need to call armed security to throw them out, there is something very, deeply wrong with your campaign and ideology.
So what is the point of them doing it at all?
They did it to show that not all Muslims are the dangerous animals and monsters that Trump makes them out to be. They succeeded in showing that Trump and his followers are the monsters.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If someone standing silently at a political rally is considered so threatening and disruptive to you that you feel the need to call armed security to throw them out, there is something very, deeply wrong with your campaign and ideology.
So what is the point of them doing it at all?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.
In this case, things are exactly as they appear. Two Muslims were evicted from a Trump rally for doing nothing but standing up silently while Trump supporters yelled epithets. Trump supporters in this forum also hate Muslims, so they agree with the eviction. What do you think is being wrongly reported?
Very interesting how Trump supporters (Trumpets?) here are justifying this because of what happened in Europe. Categorically accusing all members of a religion of certain negative traits and encouraging prejudice against them has a historical precedence if I recall. I think it even had some connection to Trump's German ancestry.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/08/3737746/muslim-woman-gets-kicked-out-of-donald-trump-rally-for-being-muslim/
It is worth watching the CNN clip that is embedded on that page. Basically, a Muslim woman and (I presume) her husband went to the Trump rally in South Carolina. She had a shirt with "Salam, I come in peace" written on it. Both she and the man had yellow stars on that said "Muslim". When Trump was talking about Syrian refugees, they stood up, but didn't say anything. People in the crowd started shouting epithets at them and police escorted them out. Meanwhile, Trump was going on about "they hate us". Unless he is a Muslim, he has that backwards.
Sometimes things just aren't as they may appear.