Anonymous
12/22/2015 12:00
Subject: My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's truly not OK is that OP has asked her to abide by the rules/customs of the house, and MIL won't do it.
I don't "agree" with some of my MIL's house rules/customs, but I respect and follow them in her home.
LOL. No, you don't need to follow rules from crazy people.
No, YOU people are crazy if you think that TOUCHING A DOORKNOB to exit the bathroom, then TOUCHING THE FAUCET to turn on the water at the *kitchen sink* isn't spreading germs. If your "logic" is, "Well, I don't get any poop or pee on my hands when I go to the bathroom," then...WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
Wash your freaking hands in the bathroom after you go to the bathroom. If you don't do that, you are really gross. And OP is right to think her MIL is being gross...and rude.
You can't stop germs from spreading. Deal with it. You can stunt proliferation, but PPs are correct: You can never get away from fecal matter. Try not to dwell on it
I agree that MIL could be more agreeable, because her hostess is batshit crazy and deserves some empathy.
If this is your logic, then answer the question: WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
Oh, chill. It's not my logic. It's the way of the world. We wash our hands to cut down on germs on our hands. Humans tend to stick their hands into their faces, so minimizing bugs on hands somewhat helps the immune system and reduces the chances of eating something really nasty.
But I assure you that washing poop hands in your kitchen sink does not create any more hazard than there already is. The difference it makes is negligible. Literally. Do a science experiment with your kids. Don't touch a door knob for a week, then swipe it and see what grows.
Reading that a washed and dried sponge is clean made me laugh. Who are you, people?
(At least microwave the damn sponge, if you want it cleaner!)
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:57
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
No kidding.
Not to mention...have you thought about the bathroom faucet? You wipe, touch handle to turn water on, therefore contaminating the handle, wash your hands and tehn touch the contaminated handle to turn the water off. Then you touch the bathroom door handle, your baby, food, sink faucet, etc. No better than what MIL did.
You can't get away from germs and it's ok.
NOT ONE OF YOU SEEMS CAPABLE OF ANSWERING THIS QUESTION. IF GERMS ARE EVERYWHERE, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
You'd better not EVER complain if you go to a restaurant and see an employee not wash his or her hands in the bathroom.
No one said there is nothing you can do about it. Just that this is and a big deal and there are far worse things. Like that nasty sponge.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:55
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
No kidding.
Not to mention...have you thought about the bathroom faucet? You wipe, touch handle to turn water on, therefore contaminating the handle, wash your hands and tehn touch the contaminated handle to turn the water off. Then you touch the bathroom door handle, your baby, food, sink faucet, etc. No better than what MIL did.
You can't get away from germs and it's ok.
NOT ONE OF YOU SEEMS CAPABLE OF ANSWERING THIS QUESTION. IF GERMS ARE EVERYWHERE, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
You'd better not EVER complain if you go to a restaurant and see an employee not wash his or her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:54
Subject: My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless the MIL comes out of the bathroom with brown-stained hands, I don't see the need to bleach the path from the bathroom to the kitchen sink.
You are exposed to particulate fecal matter every day. You touch it all the time and you have no idea when or where. It's in your house, it's on every door handle, it's at the grocery store, it's at the movie theater. Most of the time, we don't get sick because we have strong immune systems to take care of that. Yes, you can get sick from someone who's been sick. The good news is that you can actively assess the health of your mother in law. If only we could do the same for the last guy who touched the 5 dollar bill you just received as change.
OK, here's what. ONE of you "it's OK for her to touch the bathroom door handle and kitchen sink faucet with unwashed hands, as long as there's no visible pee or poop" needs to answer this question:
THEN WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO WASH HER HANDS AT ALL?
If she's going to touch some surfaces with dirty hands, and that's OK, then why not others? So you think it's fine for her to touch the bathroom door handle and the kitchen sink handle with dirty hands. WHY STOP THERE? Why not get a drink of water on her way from the bathroom to the kitchen sink, and touch the cabinets and the fridge to do so? Why not run her hands along the kitchen island to keep her balance? Why not just skip washing and go play trucks with Little Billy?
She has to wash her hands to be polite and because her hostess is a neurotic wreck. If she didn't wash her hands, nobody would get sick from it. Shocking, but true.
Oh, so we don't have to wash our hands now, and no one will get sick from it? Thanks, Internet Guy. I'll definitely listen to YOU instead of, oh, I don't know, the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/index.html
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:53
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
Not if you wash it after every use, wring it dry, and put it on a clean plate/holder, as you should
Wrong!
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:53
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
No kidding.
Not to mention...have you thought about the bathroom faucet? You wipe, touch handle to turn water on, therefore contaminating the handle, wash your hands and tehn touch the contaminated handle to turn the water off. Then you touch the bathroom door handle, your baby, food, sink faucet, etc. No better than what MIL did.
You can't get away from germs and it's ok.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:53
Subject: My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless the MIL comes out of the bathroom with brown-stained hands, I don't see the need to bleach the path from the bathroom to the kitchen sink.
You are exposed to particulate fecal matter every day. You touch it all the time and you have no idea when or where. It's in your house, it's on every door handle, it's at the grocery store, it's at the movie theater. Most of the time, we don't get sick because we have strong immune systems to take care of that. Yes, you can get sick from someone who's been sick. The good news is that you can actively assess the health of your mother in law. If only we could do the same for the last guy who touched the 5 dollar bill you just received as change.
OK, here's what. ONE of you "it's OK for her to touch the bathroom door handle and kitchen sink faucet with unwashed hands, as long as there's no visible pee or poop" needs to answer this question:
THEN WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO WASH HER HANDS AT ALL?
If she's going to touch some surfaces with dirty hands, and that's OK, then why not others? So you think it's fine for her to touch the bathroom door handle and the kitchen sink handle with dirty hands. WHY STOP THERE? Why not get a drink of water on her way from the bathroom to the kitchen sink, and touch the cabinets and the fridge to do so? Why not run her hands along the kitchen island to keep her balance? Why not just skip washing and go play trucks with Little Billy?
JFC. Just use a Clorox wipe on the door knob and move on.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:52
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
Not if you wash it after every use, wring it dry, and put it on a clean plate/holder, as you should
Nope, it's still filthy. Some people sterilize in the microwave. But as soon as it cools down and gets wet again, it's a germy mess, just like the rest of the entire world.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:52
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
If you have a sponge and a scrubber, you are nasty. Those things are disgusting.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:51
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
Not if you wash it after every use, wring it dry, and put it on a clean plate/holder, as you should
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:50
Subject: My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's truly not OK is that OP has asked her to abide by the rules/customs of the house, and MIL won't do it.
I don't "agree" with some of my MIL's house rules/customs, but I respect and follow them in her home.
LOL. No, you don't need to follow rules from crazy people.
No, YOU people are crazy if you think that TOUCHING A DOORKNOB to exit the bathroom, then TOUCHING THE FAUCET to turn on the water at the *kitchen sink* isn't spreading germs. If your "logic" is, "Well, I don't get any poop or pee on my hands when I go to the bathroom," then...WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
Wash your freaking hands in the bathroom after you go to the bathroom. If you don't do that, you are really gross. And OP is right to think her MIL is being gross...and rude.
You can't stop germs from spreading. Deal with it. You can stunt proliferation, but PPs are correct: You can never get away from fecal matter. Try not to dwell on it
I agree that MIL could be more agreeable, because her hostess is batshit crazy and deserves some empathy.
If this is your logic, then answer the question: WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:46
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:41
Subject: My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
From the science section of New York Magazine:
“We, as a society, are literally bathed in feces. Wherever a man touches, there are feces and fecal organisms present. Even to focus on toilets is to sort of miss the point: One study compared surfaces in the bathrooms and kitchens of 15 homes and found that the toilet was among the least bacteria-laden places tested, likely because people tend to more vigorously and regularly clean their toilets. Fecal bacteria can be found in many of the places you don't expect, but not so much in the places you do."
The piece goes on to list in detail where fecal matter and organisms are found.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/05/not-just-beards-the-whole-worlds-poop-covered.html
“We, as a society, are literally bathed in feces. Wherever a man touches, there are feces and fecal organisms present. Even to focus on toilets is to sort of miss the point: One study compared surfaces in the bathrooms and kitchens of 15 homes and found that the toilet was among the least bacteria-laden places tested, likely because people tend to more vigorously and regularly clean their toilets. Fecal bacteria can be found in many of the places you don't expect, but not so much in the places you do."
The piece goes on to list in detail where fecal matter and organisms are found.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/05/not-just-beards-the-whole-worlds-poop-covered.html
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:35
Subject: Re:My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!
Anonymous
12/22/2015 11:34
Subject: My MIL won't wash her hands in the bathroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's truly not OK is that OP has asked her to abide by the rules/customs of the house, and MIL won't do it.
I don't "agree" with some of my MIL's house rules/customs, but I respect and follow them in her home.
LOL. No, you don't need to follow rules from crazy people.
No, YOU people are crazy if you think that TOUCHING A DOORKNOB to exit the bathroom, then TOUCHING THE FAUCET to turn on the water at the *kitchen sink* isn't spreading germs. If your "logic" is, "Well, I don't get any poop or pee on my hands when I go to the bathroom," then...WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?
Wash your freaking hands in the bathroom after you go to the bathroom. If you don't do that, you are really gross. And OP is right to think her MIL is being gross...and rude.
You can't stop germs from spreading. Deal with it. You can stunt proliferation, but PPs are correct: You can never get away from fecal matter. Try not to dwell on it
I agree that MIL could be more agreeable, because her hostess is batshit crazy and deserves some empathy.