Anonymous
01/11/2016 15:59
Subject: New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:Sorry for my lack of understanding. What is being commended? I thought only a hard cut to be nominated as a NMSF. Thanks for the information.
They cut differently for every state- so each state gets its proportional share of NMSF. If a student had a score that is not enough to be NMSF in his state but enough in another state, he gets "Commended". The range in any one year has been from 204-225 in the past (- or + depending on the year). DC,VA and MD have some of the higher cut offs.
Anonymous
01/11/2016 15:55
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Thank you PP!
Anonymous
01/11/2016 13:18
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:so what is the bet for the new cutoffs in DC, MD, and VA?
I analyzed the old cut-off scores relative to the total and applied the percentages to the new total.
Old test total=240 New Test Total=228
DC. 225 =94% of 240. 214
Maryland. 222=92.5% of 240. 211
Virginia. 222=92.5% of 240. 211
Anonymous
01/11/2016 13:06
Subject: New PSAT results
Sorry for my lack of understanding. What is being commended? I thought only a hard cut to be nominated as a NMSF. Thanks for the information.
Anonymous
01/11/2016 12:18
Subject: New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:If you are a 2017 with a 96% - 99% score by percentile, what does that mean? I don't care about the 225 last year or whatever. Is being somewhere in the top 4 percent meaningful or just a nice thing along the way and an indicator of SAT success next? Is it the top 1% only or the top 3% only that gives a realistic shot at being an NMSF?
I know it is different by state, but what did a 2017 kid in the high 90%s get out of this aside from a great baseline indication for the SAT to come.
If you are 99th percentile for all subsets, you have a shot for NMSF in all three local jurisdictions- no guarantee though. If you are in the 97th percentile overall- you have a shot at being commended. MD, DC and VA have traditionally had some of the higher cut offs. You can go to the massive thread on college confidential and see where the cut offs are for the 99th percentiles by subsets- if you are well above those cut offs for everything- you should be in the running.
Anonymous
01/11/2016 12:10
Subject: New PSAT results
If you are a 2017 with a 96% - 99% score by percentile, what does that mean? I don't care about the 225 last year or whatever. Is being somewhere in the top 4 percent meaningful or just a nice thing along the way and an indicator of SAT success next? Is it the top 1% only or the top 3% only that gives a realistic shot at being an NMSF?
I know it is different by state, but what did a 2017 kid in the high 90%s get out of this aside from a great baseline indication for the SAT to come.
I know it is different by state, but what did a 2017 kid in the high 90%s get out of this aside from a great baseline indication for the SAT to come.
Anonymous
01/11/2016 12:06
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
so what is the bet for the new cutoffs in DC, MD, and VA?
Anonymous
01/11/2016 10:54
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Exactly!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^What do you think the thread title means, and why are you disagreeing with the PP?
The title of the thread is the "New PSAT results." So unless those words are code for Class of 2017....
If we're talking about National Merit Qualifying scores, then any thread about the new PSAT results will apply to the 2017, since they're the class competing for NMScholarships this year.
Since the test they took is totally different from the test taken last year, and score totally differently (2 subscores instead of 3, 3 digit subscores instead of 2) looking at last year's scores to try and guess this year's scores isn't helpfull.
Anonymous
01/11/2016 10:53
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
The class of 2017 and later are the only classes that will/have taken the new psat. Why do you keep arguing this point? Just feel prickly today or do you not understand?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^What do you think the thread title means, and why are you disagreeing with the PP?
The title of the thread is the "New PSAT results." So unless those words are code for Class of 2017....
Anonymous
01/10/2016 21:45
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^What do you think the thread title means, and why are you disagreeing with the PP?
The title of the thread is the "New PSAT results." So unless those words are code for Class of 2017....
If we're talking about National Merit Qualifying scores, then any thread about the new PSAT results will apply to the 2017, since they're the class competing for NMScholarships this year.
Since the test they took is totally different from the test taken last year, and score totally differently (2 subscores instead of 3, 3 digit subscores instead of 2) looking at last year's scores to try and guess this year's scores isn't helpfull.
Anonymous
01/10/2016 20:58
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:^^What do you think the thread title means, and why are you disagreeing with the PP?
The title of the thread is the "New PSAT results." So unless those words are code for Class of 2017....
Anonymous
01/10/2016 20:45
Subject: New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10th grader's grades are awful - really bad - but he shocked us and scored in 99th%ile on PSAT. Maybe he has a shot at college now? How much does a great score count if the grades suck?
I was a 3.0 kid in HS with 99%+ SAT scores. I didn't get into any good schools and almost flunked out of the mediocre school I did get into. I managed to turn it around when I got into a major I liked (close to 4.0 for last couple of years in undergrad) and got good grades in a very good graduate school (had excellent GRE scores). High SAT scores and low grades usually means very smart but unmotivated, and schools generally don't like that.
He's definitely not motivated, unfortunately. Maybe things will turn around a little bit. It's kind of worrisome to think you had such high SATs and a 3.0 and that was still only good enough for a mediocre school.
Anonymous
01/10/2016 20:45
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
^^What do you think the thread title means, and why are you disagreeing with the PP?
Anonymous
01/10/2016 20:21
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any guesses on the NMSQ score in VA? 207?
My guess is 212.
You are not even close.
Qualifying Scores for the Class of 2016 National Merit Semifinalists:
Alabama 209
Alaska 206
Arizona 215
Arkansas 204
California 223
Colorado 215
Connecticut 220
Delaware 216
District of Columbia 225
Florida 214
Georgia 218
Hawaii 214
Idaho 208
Illinois 215
Indiana 213
Iowa 208
Kansas 213
Kentucky 210
Louisiana 211
Maine 211
Maryland 222
Massachusetts 223
Michigan 210
Minnesota 214
Mississippi 209
Missouri 209
Montana 204
Nebraska 209
Nevada 211
New Hampshire 213
New Jersey 225
New Mexico 208
New York 219
North Carolina 215
North Dakota 202
Ohio 215
Oklahoma 208
Oregon 215
Pennsylvania 217
Rhode Island 212
South Carolina 211
South Dakota 202
Tennessee 212
Texas 220
Utah 206
Vermont 214
Virginia 222
Washington 219
West Virginia 202
Wisconsin 208
Wyoming 202
Commended 202
International 225
U.S. Territories 202
This thread is about the Class of 2017. Which is DIFFERENT from last year. The CB is using a new scaling system. Last year the max you could get was a 240. This year the max is a 228. They changed the scale. No one knows what the new cut off will be. A 212 is a better guess than a 222.
Actually, this thread is not about the class of 2017....see the actual thread title.
Anonymous
01/10/2016 19:45
Subject: Re:New PSAT results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any guesses on the NMSQ score in VA? 207?
My guess is 212.
You are not even close.
Qualifying Scores for the Class of 2016 National Merit Semifinalists:
Alabama 209
Alaska 206
Arizona 215
Arkansas 204
California 223
Colorado 215
Connecticut 220
Delaware 216
District of Columbia 225
Florida 214
Georgia 218
Hawaii 214
Idaho 208
Illinois 215
Indiana 213
Iowa 208
Kansas 213
Kentucky 210
Louisiana 211
Maine 211
Maryland 222
Massachusetts 223
Michigan 210
Minnesota 214
Mississippi 209
Missouri 209
Montana 204
Nebraska 209
Nevada 211
New Hampshire 213
New Jersey 225
New Mexico 208
New York 219
North Carolina 215
North Dakota 202
Ohio 215
Oklahoma 208
Oregon 215
Pennsylvania 217
Rhode Island 212
South Carolina 211
South Dakota 202
Tennessee 212
Texas 220
Utah 206
Vermont 214
Virginia 222
Washington 219
West Virginia 202
Wisconsin 208
Wyoming 202
Commended 202
International 225
U.S. Territories 202
This thread is about the Class of 2017. Which is DIFFERENT from last year. The CB is using a new scaling system. Last year the max you could get was a 240. This year the max is a 228. They changed the scale. No one knows what the new cut off will be. A 212 is a better guess than a 222.