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Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.

So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?

People have been talking about it forever. How old are you? Stop trying to deflect from an important issue.

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Where are the protests? Where are the liberal voices being raised at the senseless violence?

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? Don't you know how the media works? It carries the story of the day, and right now that's BLM. But a decades-ENDURING story has been urban crime.

Yes, seriously ....... you have a problem. What I am saying is that BLM that is going nuts over the unwarranted shooting of an individual in Chicago by a cop, but is unconcerned about the unwarranted killing of thousands of blacks.

And you don't see anything wrong with this? You do realize that protests on this issue could also provide the media attention that you mention.

THEY ABSOLUTELY DON'T COVER IT! My husband is from the South side of Chicago. People are distraught over the violence! They are protesting and pastors are trying to get involved. People seriously don't know what to do. Schools suck, the economy sucks and people feel stuck!

Anonymous wrote:When I see the spike up in violent crime in DC (receive the alerts on my phone), especially in areas that heretofore have been considered quite safe, I wish that the cops got more aggressive.

You should wish for better treatment of the socio-economic reasons why crime exists. There are many factors at play here. Well-governed areas have less crime.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.

So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?

You are a fool and clearly don't read. The last time they marched and shut down the magnificent mile, was over black on black crime. Didn't know that did you?

Anonymous wrote:The videotape of the cop shooting the suspect is upsetting and I trust the prosecutors to know their job in indicating him. That said, didn't the suspect brandish a knife at the police and then walk away? I thought that was one of the situations where the use of deadly force to stop a fleeing suspect is justified. I'm not saying that would have been the most appropriate course here, but as a legal matter can't the police use force to stop someone who threatens them with a weapon?

No, never. Never justifiable to shoot someone who is fleeing unless they are moving toward someone else who they may potentially harm.

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Conspiracy theory...how and when? Please Google the Contra arms DEALS. Regan administration turned its back while his "friends" used the crack cocaine industry as a way to fund the Contra's in their fight against the "communist' rebels. White people like you are the problem. You know these things happen then deny them afterwards, and act as if blacks are just violent and drug users. I grew up in DC during the 80's and 90's and Know what I saw

Why do you always have to blame others for your problems? Take some fricking responsibility for your behavior and how black kids are being raised.

Yes, there was rampant discrimination against blacks for a long time and there is still some. Affirmative action gave some minorities a leg-up in an effort to compensate. I have personally hired blacks who were less qualified than their white counterparts as part of affirmative action at companies where I worked.

There are things that blacks can do to improve their lot.

For a start, get fathers involved in raising their kids as opposed to just producing children through multiple mothers and then leaving them to fend for themselves. When 72% of black children are being raised by single mothers you have a problem. No point in blaming Reagan and crack cocaine.

Have you ever considered the millions of immigrants who come to the country from Asia/India and Africa and make good despite language problems and other hurdles? Why is it that Nigerian children in this country are doing exceptionally well?

Keep blaming your problems on others and nothing will change - whether there is a BLM movement or not.

Cops shouldn't shoot a person 16 times. If a black cop kills a white person there aren't massive protests. Review Gil Collar:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/gil-collar-grand-jury-trevis-austin_n_2812514.html

Everything now is pc- even the president on BSL [some consider it racist to have restrictions on dogs]. Meanwhile even our Obamacare doesn't cover the medical needs of horrifically injured people like this:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Zainabous-Voice/244570629065685

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:

Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.

But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.

And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?

You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.

No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.

Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?

We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.

The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.

But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.

Like Sandra Bland? She was college educated...didn't help her much. or how about the black guy in Florida, who was married and the drummer for his local church...cop really didn't care when he fired multiple shots into his chest. goodness lets not count the stories you dont hear about it. i read one on Huffington post and it made my skin crawl

Unfortunately, liberal arts degrees in the U.S. require zero brains. Admissions are not competitive either. So "college-educated" is not descriptive at all in this context.

Oh please and GWB jr...was a Rhodes Scholar? The point is educated or not blacks are still victims of police brutality and its been doing on LONGER then the "Black on black" issue which started in the 80's with the introduction of guns and crack into black urban communites

Ooh, I loves me a good conspiracy theory!

Conspiracy theory...how and when? Please Google the Contra arms DEALS. Regan administration turned its back while his "friends" used the crack cocaine industry as a way to fund the Contra's in their fight against the "communist' rebels. White people like you are the problem. You know these things happen then deny them afterwards, and act as if blacks are just violent and drug users. I grew up in DC during the 80's and 90's and Know what I saw

Ronald Reagan SAVED Latin America. If it weren't for Reagan, all of Latin America would have become like Sandanista Nicaragua, Venezuela and Cuba. Viva el Gipper!

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Anonymous wrote:You guys make it look like cops never shoot white poors. That's why "All Lives Matter" pisses you off so much.

Where was "all lives matter" when cops were shooting white people, I never heard them? Why aren't they protesting, since they are sooo concerned?

They have jobs?

Anonymous wrote:White people like you are the problem.

OK, I am the problem. So do me a favor, stay away.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:

Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.

But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.

And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?

You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.

No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.

Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?

We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.

The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.

But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.

Like Sandra Bland? She was college educated...didn't help her much. or how about the black guy in Florida, who was married and the drummer for his local church...cop really didn't care when he fired multiple shots into his chest. goodness lets not count the stories you dont hear about it. i read one on Huffington post and it made my skin crawl

How about the white guy in Fairfax who was shot by a (Hispanic) cop on his front step, with his hands raised? The Fairfax police covered that up and did nothing with the officer for nearly two years, until Sen. Grassley of Iowa began asking questions. And, while the story got some modest coverage, it got far less than the cop-shoots-black-guy narrative that the press runs with nowadays. Unfortunately, these incidents are far too common, no matter the race of the person shot. And the police need to be better trained, especially to de-escalate situations and to deal better with mentally ill people.

Anonymous wrote:You guys make it look like cops never shoot white poors. That's why "All Lives Matter" pisses you off so much.

Where was "all lives matter" when cops were shooting white people, I never heard them? Why aren't they protesting, since they are sooo concerned?

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:

Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.

But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.

And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?

You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.

No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.

Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?

We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.

The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.

But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.

Like Sandra Bland? She was college educated...didn't help her much. or how about the black guy in Florida, who was married and the drummer for his local church...cop really didn't care when he fired multiple shots into his chest. goodness lets not count the stories you dont hear about it. i read one on Huffington post and it made my skin crawl

Unfortunately, liberal arts degrees in the U.S. require zero brains. Admissions are not competitive either. So "college-educated" is not descriptive at all in this context.

Oh please and GWB jr...was a Rhodes Scholar? The point is educated or not blacks are still victims of police brutality and its been doing on LONGER then the "Black on black" issue which started in the 80's with the introduction of guns and crack into black urban communites

Ooh, I loves me a good conspiracy theory!

Conspiracy theory...how and when? Please Google the Contra arms DEALS. Regan administration turned its back while his "friends" used the crack cocaine industry as a way to fund the Contra's in their fight against the "communist' rebels. White people like you are the problem. You know these things happen then deny them afterwards, and act as if blacks are just violent and drug users. I grew up in DC during the 80's and 90's and Know what I saw

Anonymous wrote:I knew the PP shooter in Colorado was white once they reported he walked out alive. I didn't need to wake up to see his mugshot for confirmation. I just knew.

And what do you think is going to happen to him? He killed three, including a cop.

Anonymous wrote:I agree. Police shootings face a lot of scrutiny, and are highly publicized (rightfuly so).... but blacks being killed by other (non-police) black exacts a much larger toll on the community. There seem to be no protests out there in proportion to number of deaths, compared to BLM protests against killings by police.

Same excuse was used by whites when blacks dared to stand up to the Lynching that was going in in a lot of southern communities. Seriously look it up...the same excuses white people use to attack BLM they used to attack Ida B Wells and the NAACP. so glad those blacks didn't fall for it or we would still be hanging from tree's

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Anonymous wrote:Black on black violence and police violence against blacks are in some ways part and parcel of the same thing, that being a lack of regard for poor minorities, just look at how many of those black on black murders go unsolved. In many cases they are barely even investigated, with police turning a blind eye to the violence rather than aggressively getting the violent offenders off the street.

If the police took an aggressive stand in dealing with the violent offenders you can be sure that the BLM and their ilk will be accusing them of brutality.

The police have gotten themselves into a chicken and egg situation by devaluating and abusing poor communities, to the point of those communities viewing the cops as being just as bad as the criminals who prey on them. As a result, poor communities don't trust them and don't cooperate with them. The police need to work on improving that relationship, and that will then help toward being able to solving the distrust, improving the culture and getting the violent offenders off the street.

Exactly. The incidents we're seeing on camera these days are nothing new - they're just more visible. It's pretty clear that law enforcement feels even more threatened by the current environment, which makes them a greater threat to the communites they're policing.

Shifting resposibility to families is a cop out. My son is in a two-parent home, HHI of $290K, that respects the law. Chances that he'll be killed by law enforcement or gang violence? About equal, no matter where we live or what we do. That prospect should be unacceptable to all Americans, but right now it only matters to BLM. So.