Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:40
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
At 10 weeks, the fetus is ~ 1.2 inches long. The eyelids are still forming. Ears are formed but not in their final location. The head makes up half the fetus and the forehead is still bulging. The neck is just beginning to grow. You cannot tell what your child will look like beyond the shape of any human.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:32
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Can you expand on this? Because this is basically meaningless word salad.
Can you further elaborate on why you do think abortion is not taking "responsibility" once someone has determined that they don't have the means to care for a child?
Word salad? Sure, whatever makes you feel better.
Definition: Dignity 1.the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect
Oh, well, gosh. I guess knocking off grandma once she can't take care of her nursing home bill anymore is "taking responsibility," too, but some people -- fortunately -- have a little more moral fortitude than to recommend that route.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:31
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Since becoming a mother, I have gained even more compassion for women who deal with the difficult realities of poverty, single-parenthood, work-life balance, earning a living wage, and physical and mental illnesses for themselves and their children. I have begun to donate more of my time and money to helping mothers in need. In doing so, I know that I am helping to reduce the abortion rate.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:30
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
And you, apparently, cannot read. OP specifically said she would not want her poor baby teen to have to endure the horrors of an unwanted pregnancy, since she is still a "child" herself. But crazy as your point of view is, I suppose you think it's fine for "children" in this situation to be having sex and abortions. I mean, why not. Planned Parenthood is making big $$$ off of the body parts.
Begone, nutter. You may have your own opinions, no matter how flawed your logic, but you may not have your own facts.
Well, apparently even PP agrees with me, because they have admitted to this and are now saying they will not take payments for fetal tissue. These satanists under exposure of course; they had to be forced to take even this step. (You may not have heard that yet, from the cave you dwell in.)
Nutter, that's cute. You've reminded me it's almost time for lunch and I think I'll have some peanut butter.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:29
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Actually I've become even more pro choice since becoming pregnant. It wasn't until I understood when testing could take place and how that corresponded with so-called "late term abortion" that I got it. You only potentially find out about things at 20 weeks, may need to get an amnio to confirm, and by then you're pushing the 23 week deadline.
NP here, I agree with this. Only when in the pregnancy health care system do you really see the twisted genius of the pro lifer tactics. I'm another who pregnancy pushed from pro-choice to really pro-choice.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:26
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Actually I've become even more pro choice since becoming pregnant. It wasn't until I understood when testing could take place and how that corresponded with so-called "late term abortion" that I got it. You only potentially find out about things at 20 weeks, may need to get an amnio to confirm, and by then you're pushing the 23 week deadline.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:22
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Can you expand on this? Because this is basically meaningless word salad.
Can you further elaborate on why you do think abortion is not taking "responsibility" once someone has determined that they don't have the means to care for a child?
Word salad? Sure, whatever makes you feel better.
Definition: Dignity 1.the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect
Anonymous
10/14/2015 11:02
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:
And you, apparently, cannot read. OP specifically said she would not want her poor baby teen to have to endure the horrors of an unwanted pregnancy, since she is still a "child" herself. But crazy as your point of view is, I suppose you think it's fine for "children" in this situation to be having sex and abortions. I mean, why not. Planned Parenthood is making big $$$ off of the body parts.
Begone, nutter. You may have your own opinions, no matter how flawed your logic, but you may not have your own facts.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:59
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
You're making no sense. You can't end a "life" of something if it is completely unable to exist at all without being totally physically dependent on you. It is not alive in the first place.
Like a newborn.
A newborn is not INSIDE another person's body! You can, for example, let someone else hold a newborn, and go take a walk or have some tea. This is not true of a fetus.
Amazing that this needs explained.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:58
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
You're making no sense. You can't end a "life" of something if it is completely unable to exist at all without being totally physically dependent on you. It is not alive in the first place.
Like a newborn.
Nope. Not like a newborn.
+1
I don't know about PP's children, but I never was able to hand off my fetuses to anyone else so I could sleep on my back, walk comfortably, or go longer than 20 minutes before needing to pee.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:57
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was always pro-choice but mainly for extreme circumstances (rape, mother in danger etc) but knew you can't really separate the issue so always called myself pro choice. However since having kids I am now VERY pro choice in a way that I never would of expected. The fact is this shit is HARD and I have education, money, a supportive community, and access to good healthcare. I can't imagine how hard it is for impoverished teenagers or single parents who already have a few kids or really any un ideal circumstance. Adoption isn't perfect either and I think the "adoption bandaid" is used in theory too frequently. Now as a parent I realized that I really wouldn't want my own teenager to have to carry a pregnancy and delivery and then give up the baby...it just seems like way too much to emotionally endure as a child herself. I keep these feelings to myself because I feel they would come off as inhumane and shouldn't parenting make you more pro life? I kind of wonder if something is wrong with me. For the record I love being a parent and am happy with my life but its just a strange change of views I have experienced and was curious if anyone else has as well?
Well, gee. Then why don't you teach her not to have sex before she's ready to be a parent?
Adoption isn't "perfect" either? So that's your easy out? Depends on which party you ask, I suppose. For the to-be-murdered fetus, it probably looks pretty damned perfect, compared to the alternative.
What, do you think only non-married, childless people have abortions? LOL.
Keep on slut-shaming, it only makes you look more crazy and naive.
And you, apparently, cannot read. OP specifically said she would not want her poor baby teen to have to endure the horrors of an unwanted pregnancy, since she is still a "child" herself. But crazy as your point of view is, I suppose you think it's fine for "children" in this situation to be having sex and abortions. I mean, why not. Planned Parenthood is making big $$$ off of the body parts.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:56
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Can you expand on this? Because this is basically meaningless word salad.
Can you further elaborate on why you do think abortion is not taking "responsibility" once someone has determined that they don't have the means to care for a child?
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:54
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
You're making no sense. You can't end a "life" of something if it is completely unable to exist at all without being totally physically dependent on you. It is not alive in the first place.
Like a newborn.
Not at all like a newborn. A newborn exists as a separate entity. It needs assistance, but its very existence is not completely dependent on being physically inside a specific individual.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:54
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
You're making no sense. You can't end a "life" of something if it is completely unable to exist at all without being totally physically dependent on you. It is not alive in the first place.
Like a newborn.
Nope. Not like a newborn.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:51
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
You're making no sense. You can't end a "life" of something if it is completely unable to exist at all without being totally physically dependent on you. It is not alive in the first place.
Like a newborn.