Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 15:21     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Racism against minorities is declining.
Racism against whites is increasing.


Nope, people are just calling racism out more which is making some whites feel uncomfortable.


Agree. Original PP is totally delusional/paranoid.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 14:37     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:Racism against minorities is declining.
Racism against whites is increasing.


Oh please racism against minorities is NOT declining and I would love to hear in what way is racism against whites increasing?

You know what's really going on...cultural appropriation. You know how when people of color do something and its seen as negative but if white people do the same thing its perfectly okay?
Take traditionally African-American hairstyles for instance - when AA's wear their hair in cornrows its seen as ugly and unprofessional and the look is criticized and condemned by whites as being awful, but when Fergie or Gwen Stefani or Heidi Klum or Paris Hilton or Justin Timberlake or David Beckham or Lena Dunham or Kylie Jenner rocks cornrows all the sudden that look is so cool and so hip and so fashionable and there's no negativity attached to it whatsover...its perfectly okay.

Same thing going on with racism nowadays.

People of color have been complaining about racism for how long? If memory serves me correct I think forever and its always been seen as a negative.
What do whites say, "Get over it"..."Stop being so sensitive"..."Stop making excuses"..."Stop playing the victim"...its bad when people of color do it.
But nowadays the "in" thing is for whites to complain about racism and even though people of color are still told to "Get over it" and "Stop playing the victim" when they speak out, gosh darned if its not perfectly okay for whites to speak out and all the negative connotations and criticisms associated with it magically fall by the wayside. It's perfectly okay. That's that privilege.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 13:30     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:Racism against minorities is declining.
Racism against whites is increasing.


Nope, people are just calling racism out more which is making some whites feel uncomfortable.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 13:07     Subject: Re:S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.


Wow. So, what's the solution?


obviously Jim Crow Laws


in all seriousness, there have been a few scattered Black scholars wondering out loud what would've happened had the NAACP focused on enforcing the *but equal* part instead of insisting on integration.

There's an alternate history novel where the Confederacy wins and builds up two parallel and equal societies -- the President is always White but the Vice-President always Black. There's two UVA campuses right next to each other, one White the other Black.
That hasn't worked so well in Lebanon.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 13:00     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's really hard for me as an AA woman who grew up in MD, I just seemed like people used to try harder (our age - I'm 46). It was not PC to say something vile. I always had lots of different types of friends. Some of the things I read on this blog are appalling to me. I always wonder if this is what my friends were actually thinking.

As far of the so called "victim" syndrome that is always discussed here - it's difficult for a people to walk away from their history if it's never truly acknowledged. It's not helpful to say "get over it" or "my friend did it". That's not helpful. For any issue, people don't just get over it. Especially, if the impact has been so systemic.

I used to love this forum. Loved it. Now, I hate to even come back because I have to brace myself. I know Jeff wants an open forum, but I've been coming to this forum since 2003 and it's never been like this.


A little younger and raised outside this area, but I wonder the same thing, especially after reading the "has your opinion of black people changed" thread here where people admitted they had good friends who were black then said yes they thought the worst of black people and that we were whiners and other stereotypes.
Oh I've been avoiding this thread but maybe I should read it and face the fact that there are people who feel that way.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 12:58     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here just for the white people who will tell us what racism is, how to feel about it, and what to do about it. Because, you know, whites are the real targets of racism.


And this attitude is part of the problem. I read your post and thought - another angry black person blaming all whites for living the privileged life.

turned off . . .

I'm not bending backward for ANY person. All people need to step it up.

done with the pity party
Strikes me that you're still pretty good at feeling sorry for yourself.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 12:10     Subject: Re:S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.


But I bet your feelings come across in your actions, then you think, "Boy, that white person is so racist for not wanting to be friends with me," when in reality, it's your attitude.



Yep.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:37     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:The traditional white male power structure is being eroded away and it's obvious now even to the dimmest. The people who feel threatened by this have become extremely open and vocal about their hatred of minorities. I think it will get worse before it gets better, unfortunately.

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Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:36     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's really hard for me as an AA woman who grew up in MD, I just seemed like people used to try harder (our age - I'm 46). It was not PC to say something vile. I always had lots of different types of friends. Some of the things I read on this blog are appalling to me. I always wonder if this is what my friends were actually thinking.

As far of the so called "victim" syndrome that is always discussed here - it's difficult for a people to walk away from their history if it's never truly acknowledged. It's not helpful to say "get over it" or "my friend did it". That's not helpful. For any issue, people don't just get over it. Especially, if the impact has been so systemic.

I used to love this forum. Loved it. Now, I hate to even come back because I have to brace myself. I know Jeff wants an open forum, but I've been coming to this forum since 2003 and it's never been like this.


A little younger and raised outside this area, but I wonder the same thing, especially after reading the "has your opinion of black people changed" thread here where people admitted they had good friends who were black then said yes they thought the worst of black people and that we were whiners and other stereotypes.


+1. I said almost this very thing almost a year ago. That the most distressing thing about discussion about race on DCUM is that some of the people making some of these comments could be my neighbors, or parents of my kids' friends or co-workers - people that I would at lease consider "associates." That people who KNOW me, know how I raise my kids and know my priorities could secretly be thinking this about me and my family.


Propaganda is powerful as shit.


Yes, even to the point where a White person on the other thread (has your perception changed....) said that the images that he/she was seeing in the media influenced her views of AA more than the AA people that she actually knew and interacted with regularly. THAT floored me TBH.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:36     Subject: Re:S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.


But I bet your feelings come across in your actions, then you think, "Boy, that white person is so racist for not wanting to be friends with me," when in reality, it's your attitude.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:36     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:Racism against minorities is declining.
Racism against whites is increasing.


On average, it's probably worse for non-Whites. But hell with Ahmed Mohammad we see it in fulness:

1) If he were John Smith, he is unlikely to have gotten the amount of harassment he got from police, school officials, etc.
2) If he were John Smith, he is unlikely to have gotten an invite to the White House and Facebook HQ.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:34     Subject: Re:S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.


Wow. So, what's the solution?


obviously Jim Crow Laws


in all seriousness, there have been a few scattered Black scholars wondering out loud what would've happened had the NAACP focused on enforcing the *but equal* part instead of insisting on integration.

There's an alternate history novel where the Confederacy wins and builds up two parallel and equal societies -- the President is always White but the Vice-President always Black. There's two UVA campuses right next to each other, one White the other Black.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:33     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Racism against minorities is declining.
Racism against whites is increasing.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:29     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's really hard for me as an AA woman who grew up in MD, I just seemed like people used to try harder (our age - I'm 46). It was not PC to say something vile. I always had lots of different types of friends. Some of the things I read on this blog are appalling to me. I always wonder if this is what my friends were actually thinking.

As far of the so called "victim" syndrome that is always discussed here - it's difficult for a people to walk away from their history if it's never truly acknowledged. It's not helpful to say "get over it" or "my friend did it". That's not helpful. For any issue, people don't just get over it. Especially, if the impact has been so systemic.

I used to love this forum. Loved it. Now, I hate to even come back because I have to brace myself. I know Jeff wants an open forum, but I've been coming to this forum since 2003 and it's never been like this.


A little younger and raised outside this area, but I wonder the same thing, especially after reading the "has your opinion of black people changed" thread here where people admitted they had good friends who were black then said yes they thought the worst of black people and that we were whiners and other stereotypes.


+1. I said almost this very thing almost a year ago. That the most distressing thing about discussion about race on DCUM is that some of the people making some of these comments could be my neighbors, or parents of my kids' friends or co-workers - people that I would at lease consider "associates." That people who KNOW me, know how I raise my kids and know my priorities could secretly be thinking this about me and my family.


Propaganda is powerful as shit.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2015 11:24     Subject: S/O Has racism gotten worse...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's really hard for me as an AA woman who grew up in MD, I just seemed like people used to try harder (our age - I'm 46). It was not PC to say something vile. I always had lots of different types of friends. Some of the things I read on this blog are appalling to me. I always wonder if this is what my friends were actually thinking.

As far of the so called "victim" syndrome that is always discussed here - it's difficult for a people to walk away from their history if it's never truly acknowledged. It's not helpful to say "get over it" or "my friend did it". That's not helpful. For any issue, people don't just get over it. Especially, if the impact has been so systemic.

I used to love this forum. Loved it. Now, I hate to even come back because I have to brace myself. I know Jeff wants an open forum, but I've been coming to this forum since 2003 and it's never been like this.


A little younger and raised outside this area, but I wonder the same thing, especially after reading the "has your opinion of black people changed" thread here where people admitted they had good friends who were black then said yes they thought the worst of black people and that we were whiners and other stereotypes.


+1. I said almost this very thing almost a year ago. That the most distressing thing about discussion about race on DCUM is that some of the people making some of these comments could be my neighbors, or parents of my kids' friends or co-workers - people that I would at lease consider "associates." That people who KNOW me, know how I raise my kids and know my priorities could secretly be thinking this about me and my family.