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Anonymous wrote:Pp above. As an example I met Dh in my mid twenties. We are one year apart. Now we are in our thirties and Dh looks just as great and even though I take care of myself I definitely am no longer in my 20s. Realistically if he was single again he could still go for the girls in their mid twenties. And why won't he?

Eh, I think you're wayyyy overestimating your spouse's dating value- which is only natural and to be expected.

Most women in their twenties, especially early or mid, would want nothing at all to do with a man who is middle aged and has children and an ex wife. Could he find ONE to date? Probably. Would she be the cream of the crop? Certainly not.

Thats the thing-whether or not men are attracted to women in the twenties, the fact is women in their twenties are also attracted to men in their twenties! So most of them arent, unless there is something major on the table, gonna go outside of that.

I am not even talking middle aged. Twenty something with an early to mid 30s year old? Why not? They earn more they still look good. They only start to look nasty in their 40s. Most don't have kids.

Sorry but no. For the vast, vast majority of men, their looks go rapidly downhill after mid 20s. They get guts, start losing their hair, and because they never learned how to protect and care for their skin like women do, they get wrinkles much more quickly.

Now, if they're in Chris Hemsworth's shape, then sure, they can get all the ladies they want. They still look good.

If not... well, they better be willing to shell out some cash for really nice dates. Because it will not be an equal playing field for them.

Just being honest!

I haven't found that to be true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a chart that shows men's attractiveness based on three levels physical, psychological and ncome level,

http://socionist.blogspot.com/2011/11/male-attractiveness-over-time.html?m=1

See, this chart is assuming women care primarily about earning potential. Given the fact that a man in his twenties has every potential to be earning the same as the early thirties guy at that age (in fact, more since men who are married tend to earn more than their single counterparts) why not snag him when he's young and good looking. You'll still get the benefit of that early 30s and so on income.

Besides, i think most women in their twenties (myself and my friends at least) are mostly concerned with appearance. Of course, there should be a baseline- college educated with a job is a good thing. But most guys in their twenties already have that.

You exactly prove my point actually. Either you get these high earning potential young men when you both are in your twenties. When you reach your 30s the ones that are still not married have a way larger pool of women to choose from, what they don't have in physical attractiveness, though frankly I don't see it I think they still look good in their 30s, they make up for in their highly increased income.

The pool for eligible men will grow much much smaller.

I dont think I did prove your point, and I think if you think I did, you might not be quite understanding what all was said.

Men are less physically attractive, by a large margin, in their thirties. This is undisputed.

For most women in their twenties, physical attractiveness is the most important thing. Which is why a really hot, young guy can walk into any bar and get laid that night- have his pick of the women.

Unfortunately for men in their thirties, their attractiveness levels take a BIG hit. There was a board about that on here just the other night.

Some women will be able to tolerate that hit, so long as it is supplanted by income- or, depending on their desperation levels,regardless.

But many wil not, especially those at the top of the pyramid who can date a guy in his twenties who is also earning a good salary.

on the whole I find Americans much more conventional about age gaps between men and women, much more preoccupied with this.

In Europe its nothing, which is why most of the huge gap couples you showed were partly if not completely, non-Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a chart that shows men's attractiveness based on three levels physical, psychological and ncome level,

http://socionist.blogspot.com/2011/11/male-attractiveness-over-time.html?m=1

See, this chart is assuming women care primarily about earning potential. Given the fact that a man in his twenties has every potential to be earning the same as the early thirties guy at that age (in fact, more since men who are married tend to earn more than their single counterparts) why not snag him when he's young and good looking. You'll still get the benefit of that early 30s and so on income.

Besides, i think most women in their twenties (myself and my friends at least) are mostly concerned with appearance. Of course, there should be a baseline- college educated with a job is a good thing. But most guys in their twenties already have that.

You exactly prove my point actually. Either you get these high earning potential young men when you both are in your twenties. When you reach your 30s the ones that are still not married have a way larger pool of women to choose from, what they don't have in physical attractiveness, though frankly I don't see it I think they still look good in their 30s, they make up for in their highly increased income.

The pool for eligible men will grow much much smaller.

Anonymous wrote:What's your question?

+1, LOL

Anonymous wrote:Here's a chart that shows men's attractiveness based on three levels physical, psychological and ncome level,

http://socionist.blogspot.com/2011/11/male-attractiveness-over-time.html?m=1

See, this chart is assuming women care primarily about earning potential. Given the fact that a man in his twenties has every potential to be earning the same as the early thirties guy at that age (in fact, more since men who are married tend to earn more than their single counterparts) why not snag him when he's young and good looking. You'll still get the benefit of that early 30s and so on income.

Besides, i think most women in their twenties (myself and my friends at least) are mostly concerned with appearance. Of course, there should be a baseline- college educated with a job is a good thing. But most guys in their twenties already have that.

One more thing, when I met DH he was in his late twenties eating ramen and being a poor grad student. All his friends were doing the same thing. Now in their early to mid 30s, they are done with grad school and their incomes basically quadrupled. Tell me that is not attractive to women in their mid to late twenties.

Here's a chart that shows men's attractiveness based on three levels physical, psychological and ncome level,

http://socionist.blogspot.com/2011/11/male-attractiveness-over-time.html?m=1

Realistically men are most attractive in their early to mid 30s

Believe what you want to believe. It is obvious my opinion won't change your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp above. As an example I met Dh in my mid twenties. We are one year apart. Now we are in our thirties and Dh looks just as great and even though I take care of myself I definitely am no longer in my 20s. Realistically if he was single again he could still go for the girls in their mid twenties. And why won't he?

Eh, I think you're wayyyy overestimating your spouse's dating value- which is only natural and to be expected.

Most women in their twenties, especially early or mid, would want nothing at all to do with a man who is middle aged and has children and an ex wife. Could he find ONE to date? Probably. Would she be the cream of the crop? Certainly not.

Thats the thing-whether or not men are attracted to women in the twenties, the fact is women in their twenties are also attracted to men in their twenties! So most of them arent, unless there is something major on the table, gonna go outside of that.

I am not even talking middle aged. Twenty something with an early to mid 30s year old? Why not? They earn more they still look good. They only start to look nasty in their 40s. Most don't have kids.

Sorry but no. For the vast, vast majority of men, their looks go rapidly downhill after mid 20s. They get guts, start losing their hair, and because they never learned how to protect and care for their skin like women do, they get wrinkles much more quickly.

Now, if they're in Chris Hemsworth's shape, then sure, they can get all the ladies they want. They still look good.

If not... well, they better be willing to shell out some cash for really nice dates. Because it will not be an equal playing field for them.

Just being honest!

Anonymous wrote:Chris hemsworth's wife is gorgeous in general, better looking than the average twenty year old and most 30 something year olds. Obviously more comes into play than looks.. Personality and compatibility too.

The johnsons is just an outlier. I remember the days every one hailed Ashton kutcher and Demi Moore as a similar example till Ashton broke up with Demi.

In general, people pair up when young or as they grow older the men have more options and pair off worth younger women. I am glad I am with my DH as I highly doubt at my age I would have even caught his eye now and we would have a chance to find out whether we were compatible. DH friends are in their mid to late thirties, have their pick of the women pool as they are attractive and highly successful professionals and I can tell you when I meet their gfs they are younger.

Well, maybe you didn't age as well. Chris Hemsworth's wife looks good for her age, and yes, she is a beautiful woman. But she does not have that "nubile" 20 year old body, and yet he still picked her.

Aaron Johnson also picked Sam Taylor Johnson. It's not an outlier- theyve been together for many years now, had kids.

Of course, plenty of couples, regardless of age, break up, as in the case of Demi and Ashton. However, that does not invalidate the fact that they were together for several years, that he picked her when he had plenty of 20 something pussy to choose from.

Even late thirties. Most of those professional dudes don't hav ex wives and kids. Not my circle anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp above. As an example I met Dh in my mid twenties. We are one year apart. Now we are in our thirties and Dh looks just as great and even though I take care of myself I definitely am no longer in my 20s. Realistically if he was single again he could still go for the girls in their mid twenties. And why won't he?

Eh, I think you're wayyyy overestimating your spouse's dating value- which is only natural and to be expected.

Most women in their twenties, especially early or mid, would want nothing at all to do with a man who is middle aged and has children and an ex wife. Could he find ONE to date? Probably. Would she be the cream of the crop? Certainly not.

Thats the thing-whether or not men are attracted to women in the twenties, the fact is women in their twenties are also attracted to men in their twenties! So most of them arent, unless there is something major on the table, gonna go outside of that.

I am not even talking middle aged. Twenty something with an early to mid 30s year old? Why not? They earn more they still look good. They only start to look nasty in their 40s. Most don't have kids.

Chris hemsworth's wife is gorgeous in general, better looking than the average twenty year old and most 30 something year olds. Obviously more comes into play than looks.. Personality and compatibility too.

The johnsons is just an outlier. I remember the days every one hailed Ashton kutcher and Demi Moore as a similar example till Ashton broke up with Demi.

In general, people pair up when young or as they grow older the men have more options and pair off worth younger women. I am glad I am with my DH as I highly doubt at my age I would have even caught his eye now and we would have a chance to find out whether we were compatible. DH friends are in their mid to late thirties, have their pick of the women pool as they are attractive and highly successful professionals and I can tell you when I meet their gfs they are younger.