Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 13:39     Subject: Re:Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shepherd.


It kind of depends with Shepherd. I know some IB AA families that felt Shepherd was not a viable option several years ago, and instead sent their kids to JKLMs, private, etc. However, some of these *same* families now send their younger kids to Shepherd.





OP-- Check out Shepherd, Eaton and Hearst. While high SES AAs are sprinkled throughout the city, as another posted noted up thread, there is a fairly large concentration of them off 16th Street aka as the "Gold Coast" (Shepherd Park, Colonial Village, Crestwood, 16th Street Heights). Many of these AAs are the ones that grew up here and stayed. Many attended private when they were young and now send their own kids to private schools as previously noted (I know quite a few of these). However, those that did not choose private and who live in these neighborhoods often consider these three schools due to their proximity and the fact that they are Deal feeders. You'll find a handful of high SES AA kids at JKLMs, but the AA peer group is larger at SEH. We're at Hearst. While I don't know everyone, I can say without hesitation that the vast majority of my children's AA friends come from two parent, college
educated households. I know people at Eaton and my understanding is that is it very much the same there. Shepherd elementary is the in boundary school for a good portion of the "Gold Coast" so, same story.

Just a note, if you live near Capitol Hill, these schools probably will be too much of a hassle to drive to. I hear Cleveland is pretty good and a lot closer. I would definitely consider Cleveland if you don't live on the west side of town.


This poster knows what's she is talking about. Good advice!
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 13:11     Subject: Re:Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shepherd.


It kind of depends with Shepherd. I know some IB AA families that felt Shepherd was not a viable option several years ago, and instead sent their kids to JKLMs, private, etc. However, some of these *same* families now send their younger kids to Shepherd.





OP-- Check out Shepherd, Eaton and Hearst. While high SES AAs are sprinkled throughout the city, as another posted noted up thread, there is a fairly large concentration of them off 16th Street aka as the "Gold Coast" (Shepherd Park, Colonial Village, Crestwood, 16th Street Heights). Many of these AAs are the ones that grew up here and stayed. Many attended private when they were young and now send their own kids to private schools as previously noted (I know quite a few of these). However, those that did not choose private and who live in these neighborhoods often consider these three schools due to their proximity and the fact that they are Deal feeders. You'll find a handful of high SES AA kids at JKLMs, but the AA peer group is larger at SEH. We're at Hearst. While I don't know everyone, I can say without hesitation that the vast majority of my children's AA friends come from two parent, college educated households. I know people at Eaton and my understanding is that is it very much the same there. Shepherd elementary is the in boundary school for a good portion of the "Gold Coast" so, same story.

Just a note, if you live near Capitol Hill, these schools probably will be too much of a hassle to drive to. I hear Cleveland is pretty good and a lot closer. I would definitely consider Cleveland if you don't live on the west side of town.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 12:51     Subject: Re:Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:Shepherd.


It kind of depends with Shepherd. I know some IB AA families that felt Shepherd was not a viable option several years ago, and instead sent their kids to JKLMs, private, etc. However, some of these *same* families now send their younger kids to Shepherd.



Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 12:48     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
ALL of the affluent AA's that I know send their child to private in HS. I keep trying to encourage them to stay Public/Charter, but they are dead set on private. Oh well.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 12:40     Subject: Re:Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Shepherd.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 12:33     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Affluent families send their children to provate schools.


Agree, for elementary and lower elementary.

Charters are offering a venue to those affluent families who are not scoring high in privates.
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Um this is not true. Charters are offering a venue to affluent families who choose to invest their money in other ventures and do not think it is a good financial investment to pay $30000+ per year for a four year old to go to school.


This...we are AA and our HHI is 450k and we send our DC to a chartered school. We are IB for Deal, but will consider private for HS.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 09:31     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm black and did pretty well on SATs (almost perfect score on verbal) but I'm also 1st generation American. There are numerous factors that are associated with lower scores among AAs, such as stereotype threat, less $ to pay for prep courses, families not even realizing prep courses are a thing (like my parents), etc. I don't think most serious people think that there's like a genetic difference in intelligence between the groups--except, perhaps, the authors of The Bell Curve, lol.


Also agree with PP before me. Lower expectations for AAs are huge too. Which is why for us it was important to have our kid surrounded by other high-achieving AA kids who are well-prepared for school. We are at one of the DCPS elementaries already mentioned, but will consider private for high school if we feel that's necessary when the time comes (in lieu of Wilson--a little spooked by talk of the 'Yale or jail' trajectory).


+1 private high school is already the likely plan for my DC.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 09:26     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:Janney


I have 3 kids at Janney and last year each kid had ONE !blwck in their class. Janney's AA numbers are almost all in 5th grade when they can give empty spots to out of boundary kids. Prior to that, the school is very white because the neighborhood is very white. There's a lot of international
diversity.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 09:25     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:Janney


I have 3 kids at Janney and last year each kid had ONE !blwck in their class. Janney's AA numbers are almost all in 5th grade when they can give empty spots to out of boundary kids. Prior to that, the school is very white because the neighborhood is very white. There's a lot of international
diversity but very little AA diversity.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 09:19     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Affluent families send their children to provate schools.


Agree, for elementary and lower elementary.

Charters are offering a venue to those affluent families who are not scoring high in privates.
\

Um this is not true. Charters are offering a venue to affluent families who choose to invest their money in other ventures and do not think it is a good financial investment to pay $30000+ per year for a four year old to go to school.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 08:59     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Ack, PP. I'm same poster at 8:51 and 8:58 (pre-coffee).
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 08:58     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
Anonymous wrote:I'm black and did pretty well on SATs (almost perfect score on verbal) but I'm also 1st generation American. There are numerous factors that are associated with lower scores among AAs, such as stereotype threat, less $ to pay for prep courses, families not even realizing prep courses are a thing (like my parents), etc. I don't think most serious people think that there's like a genetic difference in intelligence between the groups--except, perhaps, the authors of The Bell Curve, lol.


Also agree with PP before me. Lower expectations for AAs are huge too. Which is why for us it was important to have our kid surrounded by other high-achieving AA kids who are well-prepared for school. We are at one of the DCPS elementaries already mentioned, but will consider private for high school if we feel that's necessary when the time comes (in lieu of Wilson--a little spooked by talk of the 'Yale or jail' trajectory).
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 08:51     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
I'm black and did pretty well on SATs (almost perfect score on verbal) but I'm also 1st generation American. There are numerous factors that are associated with lower scores among AAs, such as stereotype threat, less $ to pay for prep courses, families not even realizing prep courses are a thing (like my parents), etc. I don't think most serious people think that there's like a genetic difference in intelligence between the groups--except, perhaps, the authors of The Bell Curve, lol.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 07:42     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
^ for got to mention that I'm a NP.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2015 07:39     Subject: Which DCPS elementary has the highest number of affluent AAs?
About the disparity among black and white students... remember that this was by design for many years. My parents went to an all AA high school and were given used books from the white middle schools to use. The educations were separate and extremely unequal. My parents encouraged education but didn't know how and were giving me advice that was outdated. I was as smart as the white kids in my grade and worked just as hard, but scored the standard low scores on my SAT.

Similarly, even today, I know several smart AA students who were discouraged from AP classes and one whose guidance counselor convinced her to go home at noon since she was done most of her course work her senior year. All three of those students I mentioned have dropped out of college.

As a group, AAs need to work hard to correct the wrongs of the past. I don't see anyone coming to our kids' rescue.