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Op here. I have no problem with sunscreen, and we all use it. But the safety of SPRAY sunscreen has been specifically questioned and FDA recommends against using it on children. I don't see why my kids have to be put at risk by your ignorance.

Then you need to get a private pool. It is a product that is legal for use in public places.

You are probably that large, loud woman who was sitting next to us last weekend at our private pool. I asked her politely not to spray her sunscreen near my child because he has asthma, and she refused. She told me to find another pool, and that it wasn't illegal, and she can spray her sunscreen wherever she wanted. Was that you, PP? If so, you are a very inconsiderate person, and I'm ashamed you were invited to join our pool. If I ever get a chance to kick you out, I will do so.

We moved to the other side of the pool (in the sun!) Why did this woman need to spray her sunscreen in the shade anyway?

Lots of things are legal, PP, but they are rude. Do you spit whenever and wherever you feel like it? Do you get drunk out of your mind at the pool and then vomit all over the chairs? Neither is illegal, PP, just impolite.

You really need to relax. People have a right to decide what's best for them. YOU Had no right to ask her to stop spraying her child. If it bothers you move for the 10 seconds it takes to apply the sunscreen. I have no sympathy for you. You sound entitled and obnoxious.

Signed,

Mom who doesn't use spray

This. And I love how she has to point out that it was a private pool. I had no idea this was such an issue for some of you ninnies, but believe me, now that I know, I'm stocking up on the spray. I'm going to be spraying it like Glade!

Lol. I used to spray sunscreen on my kids in our own front yard BEFORE we went to our private community pool where we were members. There were times when I had to reapply at the pool and I would take them to an area away from other people to do so. Seemed like very basic common courtesy to me. On a crowded beach it may be more difficult to find an open space to spray the sunscreen but there is such a breeze that I can't imagine it would be a gigantic huge deal for anyone.

As far as it being effective - yes, I've used it for years on my fair skinned kids at the beach and at the pool (they were on swim team) and have never once burned.

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Anonymous wrote:

Op here. I have no problem with sunscreen, and we all use it. But the safety of SPRAY sunscreen has been specifically questioned and FDA recommends against using it on children. I don't see why my kids have to be put at risk by your ignorance.

Then you need to get a private pool. It is a product that is legal for use in public places.

You are probably that large, loud woman who was sitting next to us last weekend at our private pool. I asked her politely not to spray her sunscreen near my child because he has asthma, and she refused. She told me to find another pool, and that it wasn't illegal, and she can spray her sunscreen wherever she wanted. Was that you, PP? If so, you are a very inconsiderate person, and I'm ashamed you were invited to join our pool. If I ever get a chance to kick you out, I will do so.

We moved to the other side of the pool (in the sun!) Why did this woman need to spray her sunscreen in the shade anyway?

Lots of things are legal, PP, but they are rude. Do you spit whenever and wherever you feel like it? Do you get drunk out of your mind at the pool and then vomit all over the chairs? Neither is illegal, PP, just impolite.

You moved your family into the sun to get away from someone spraying sunscreen? *smh*

You need to re-read the FDA warning. It isn't remotely as dire as you seem to think it is. All you had to do was tell your child to turn his face away - not that he was at risk in the first place since those sprays don't have much range. You have allowed yourself to become much, much too hysterical about these sprays. Please get a grip for your and your children's sake - moving them into the sun was not a reasonable reaction. You were being very dramatic.

If exposed to spray sunscreen I have a severe allergic reaction requiring steroids to stop it. I move away from people spraying if I can. This is not in people's minds. Some of us have real, severe allergies. I just move a few feet away and it's usually fine.

FWIW I'm not usually an alarmist about things. I eat plenty of processed food. I'm a pragmatist.

I'm just a pragmatist with a huge list of doctor-verified chemical sensitivities. I'm not gonna shame you for your use of spray sunscreen. Lucky you that it doesn't burn your skin. But I do want to be far away from you when you do it.

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Op here. I have no problem with sunscreen, and we all use it. But the safety of SPRAY sunscreen has been specifically questioned and FDA recommends against using it on children. I don't see why my kids have to be put at risk by your ignorance.


Then you need to get a private pool. It is a product that is legal for use in public places.


You are probably that large, loud woman who was sitting next to us last weekend at our private pool. I asked her politely not to spray her sunscreen near my child because he has asthma, and she refused. She told me to find another pool, and that it wasn't illegal, and she can spray her sunscreen wherever she wanted. Was that you, PP? If so, you are a very inconsiderate person, and I'm ashamed you were invited to join our pool. If I ever get a chance to kick you out, I will do so.

We moved to the other side of the pool (in the sun!) Why did this woman need to spray her sunscreen in the shade anyway?

Lots of things are legal, PP, but they are rude. Do you spit whenever and wherever you feel like it? Do you get drunk out of your mind at the pool and then vomit all over the chairs? Neither is illegal, PP, just impolite.


You really need to relax. People have a right to decide what's best for them. YOU Had no right to ask her to stop spraying her child. If it bothers you move for the 10 seconds it takes to apply the sunscreen. I have no sympathy for you. You sound entitled and obnoxious.

Signed,

Mom who doesn't use spray

This. And I love how she has to point out that it was a private pool. I had no idea this was such an issue for some of you ninnies, but believe me, now that I know, I'm stocking up on the spray. I'm going to be spraying it like Glade!

Good for you....because spray sunscreen do not work!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Op here. I have no problem with sunscreen, and we all use it. But the safety of SPRAY sunscreen has been specifically questioned and FDA recommends against using it on children. I don't see why my kids have to be put at risk by your ignorance.

Then you need to get a private pool. It is a product that is legal for use in public places.

You are probably that large, loud woman who was sitting next to us last weekend at our private pool. I asked her politely not to spray her sunscreen near my child because he has asthma, and she refused. She told me to find another pool, and that it wasn't illegal, and she can spray her sunscreen wherever she wanted. Was that you, PP? If so, you are a very inconsiderate person, and I'm ashamed you were invited to join our pool. If I ever get a chance to kick you out, I will do so.

We moved to the other side of the pool (in the sun!) Why did this woman need to spray her sunscreen in the shade anyway?

Lots of things are legal, PP, but they are rude. Do you spit whenever and wherever you feel like it? Do you get drunk out of your mind at the pool and then vomit all over the chairs? Neither is illegal, PP, just impolite.

You really need to relax. People have a right to decide what's best for them. YOU Had no right to ask her to stop spraying her child. If it bothers you move for the 10 seconds it takes to apply the sunscreen. I have no sympathy for you. You sound entitled and obnoxious.

Signed,

Mom who doesn't use spray

This. And I love how she has to point out that it was a private pool. I had no idea this was such an issue for some of you ninnies, but believe me, now that I know, I'm stocking up on the spray. I'm going to be spraying it like Glade!

Anonymous wrote:If you want to stay ignorant of recommendations that you stop spreading your kid with spray sunscreen (example: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5564533), that's your call. But PLEASE do it far enough away that MY kids (whose parents actually follow some basic safety news) don't have to breathe it in.

--so annoyed, so early in the pool season

I'd like to spray it right in your face.

Wait - are people seriously defending their rude behavior? Safety aside, it's just rude to spray anything nasty near others. Step away to pray FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:

Op here. I have no problem with sunscreen, and we all use it. But the safety of SPRAY sunscreen has been specifically questioned and FDA recommends against using it on children. I don't see why my kids have to be put at risk by your ignorance.

Then you need to get a private pool. It is a product that is legal for use in public places.

You are probably that large, loud woman who was sitting next to us last weekend at our private pool. I asked her politely not to spray her sunscreen near my child because he has asthma, and she refused. She told me to find another pool, and that it wasn't illegal, and she can spray her sunscreen wherever she wanted. Was that you, PP? If so, you are a very inconsiderate person, and I'm ashamed you were invited to join our pool. If I ever get a chance to kick you out, I will do so.

We moved to the other side of the pool (in the sun!) Why did this woman need to spray her sunscreen in the shade anyway?

Lots of things are legal, PP, but they are rude. Do you spit whenever and wherever you feel like it? Do you get drunk out of your mind at the pool and then vomit all over the chairs? Neither is illegal, PP, just impolite.

Your child with such sensitivity likely shouldn't be near chlorine. It's caustic and off gases from the pool...
Oh. Wait. That would be inconvenient for YOU. You just want to stop OTHER people from behavior that bothers you.

Anonymous wrote:It is banned at my kid's summer camp. Is this common?

banned from ours too. We were told because of kids with asthma and something about flammable components(I guess because it's compressed aerosol in a can).

Applying enough spray sunscreen takes approximately 6 seconds, spraying from 6-8 inches away, based on our calculations. The area temporarily turns white, as shown above, when you are applying enough.

The issue with spray sunscreen is not how much you are applying, as with lotion. Instead, the problem is for how long you are applying the formula.

If you apply a spray sunscreen for 2-3 seconds, you only apply about 0.5 milligrams per centimeter of skin, according to our in-house testing. [We measured this by measuring the forearm area and weights of bottles before and after application of spray sunscreen.] That means you get about one-quarter the protection you need to obtain the level of protection indicated by the SPF rating on the bottle. If you are applying a product with an SPF rating of 45, you would be getting SPF 10-12 protection. Not cool.

https://www.futurederm.com/is-a-spray-sunscreen-really-as-effective-as-a-lotion/

EWG does not recommend powder and spray sunscreens because of concerns about inhalation and inadequate sun protection. The FDA is reviewing safety and efficacy data of sprays. In its 2011 sunscreen rules, implemented in December 2012, the agency decided that powdered sunscreens should no longer be sold under the current over-the-counter sunscreen rules and should be subject to the more rigorous new drug application process (FDA 2011a,b).

EWG is especially concerned about inhalation of nano-sized and micronized zinc and titanium in powdered sunscreens and makeups. Inhalation is a much more direct route of exposure to these compounds than skin penetration, which appears to be low in healthy skin. If you want the benefits of a mineral sunscreen, choose a zinc- or titanium-based lotion. If you use a pump or spray sunscreen, lower your inhalation risk by applying it to your hands and then wiping it on your face.

http://www.ewg.org/2015sunscreen/faqs-your-sunscreen-questions-our-answers/

I read that the spray stuff really does not provide protection.

It is banned at my kid's summer camp. Is this common?

My family uses spray sunscreen on the parents and the children. We even use it on the face and just hold our breath for the two seconds it takes to apply. We never have a problem even though several of us in the family have allergies. The articles or information posted don't finds that the product is a health risk, either due to the chemicals or from inhaling it. So you can't just keep insisting that it is and expect everyone else to have to stop using it as a result.

I use it specifically BECAUSE my primary care physician recommended it for me and my family. My whole family spends a lot of time outside and we need sunscreen. DH happens to be very bad at applying cream sunscreen, either to himself or others, and is constantly streaking it and missing spots that get burned. So the sunscreen application job for the whole family, the kids and me and DH, falls to me. I have sensitive skin and got a terrible rash on my hands after using cream lotions during a vacation at the beach and applying and reapplying multiple people. I had to have prescriptions medicine to clear it up and it took months. It happened a second time. The doctor told me to use only the spray on my family to limit how much I got on my hands. Since then I've had no rashes. So for my family there is a medical reason as well as a preference to use the spray and specifically NOT to use the kind of spray that needs to be rubbed in or put in your hand first.

All that said, we do try to apply it in an out of the way spot at the pool where we are members, or try at home in the yard before we go out in order to be courteous b/c I understand there is an odor that some object to. But I do myself get annoyed when - even after I have moved away to use the spray - I still get the evil eye from some self-righteous person who feels put out by the fact that I've used it at all. I'm sorry but if you are out in public you have to deal with other people and other people might make different choices that can effect you sometimes. You can't be in your own personal bubble in public.

If I had been the woman asked to move b/c of a child with asthma I would have moved to apply the spray out of courtesy, as I said its my practice to move away from others. But I also think the woman that asked was pretty darn right rude to ask. The child could have moved for a few seconds and taken care of the situation just as well and it is the person with asthma that has the special requirement. Spray sunscreen isn't the only personal hygiene item that can cause asthma attacks - so can some perfumes and fragrant lotions. We don't ban all those b/c some people can't tolerate them or just don't like them.

Those of you who object, your preferences and reasons are valid and you should make your choice. But so are mine and the product isn't banned and has not been established to present a health risk. So I will continue to be courteous and step aside to apply my spray. I hope that you will attempt to be similarly courteous and not give me the evil eye and assume that you know best or that your needs or preferences are more valid then mine.

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Anonymous wrote:The FDA has recommended that parents remove their children from the vincinity of a parent applying spray to their child due to the risk of overspray?
You have to be kidding me if that is what you believe the FDA guidelines say
That's fine if you are over-anxious and choose to move yourself and your family, but don't say it's because the FDA recommends it. That's just silly

you have misread the OP's issue. The issue is specifically with AEROSOL SPRAY sunscreen and the harmful chemicals that it contains. You can look up the chemicals yourself on the can and compare to some of the cream based. Or go to EWG's skin Deep sunscreen Guide which breaks down each chemical in various brands. Aerosol spray might be quick and easy to use but has a lot of harmful chemicals especially to children and children with asthma.

Nope, not misreading. Nowhere does it allege that being a few feet away from overspray is dangerous and recommends moving away.