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Anonymous wrote:I don't think glorifying morbidly obese is any better than glorifying super skinny. Neither is healthy. But I also don't believe in tearing people down because of their weight. Tess seems like a wonderful person and if she is happy, who am I to judge.

Her doctor should be judging her. Just because she "seems like a wonderful person" and "says" she is happy, does not make her a hero.

I read once where she said she thought no one could ever love her because she was fat and she had accepted that until she met her fiance Nick. That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself, especially because she has control over her body and can do something about it. Makes me sad.

What? That someone can love you unconditionally because they see something special about the person you are?

She was feeling unlovable because people like you were screaming that being fat made her worthless. But I guess Nick never got your message and now Tess has chosen to ignore you and live her life.

There was a time when I thought like you. And you know what happened to me? I gained weight. And you know what? I'm still me. The people who love ME are still by my side. The people who liked me for what my body looked like have long since scattered.

Wow are you stupid or overly sensitive or bad at reading or what? I said it made me feel sad that she thought no one could love her and that she just had to accept that. My heart went out to her. I didn't want someone else just to accept their fate because they were fat, because except in the most extenuating circumstances you have control over doing something about it.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth. In your double speak - she her unworthiness is controllable - she can lose weight! Eh, you have no idea how screwed up your message is.

No you are projecting. I said it made me feel sad that she felt that way. I had compassion for her. Stop trying to twist it.

You said; :That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself because you have control over your body.

I say: that is not as true as you would like it to be. All of our bodies do craptastic things to us. Your body will too one day. Maybe you won't get fat, maybe your body will have something worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

And it is also true that two people can eat the same diet and have vastly different results. You are perpetuating the myth that fat people have worse lifestyles than thin people. I do not think that is necessarily true. At all.

More activity plus building of muscle mass plus reduction of calories plus portion control will cause a person to lose weight. Yes two people with two different metabolisms can eat the same diet and have different results. If a fat person exercises and watches their carbohydrate/sugar intake and practices portion control, they will lose weight. Also your argument has a couple of flaws. Many obese people got that way because they have an addiction to food/sugar and it is a vicious cycle of lowering metabolism and less and less activity as they gain. A thin person can definitely have an unhealthy lifestyle, no one has said that, but you are using that as an excuse for obesity.

Some people can drink alcohol and take it or leave it, some have a higher tolerance. Some people can have a sip and will then spiral and go on a bender. Two people drinking alcohol, two outcomes. We wouldn't say an alcoholic is healthy just because someone else is a social drinker.

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

Thank you, I have a very low tolerance for stupidity. My apologies for saying the f word.

But nobody was disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. The dispute was over the 100%, which is factually incorrect.

Yes, there is no disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. But what came first - the chicken or the egg. That is less than clear.

Healthcare person here. There is no issue in clarity. The overwhelming majority of new cases of DM II are linked by obesity

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think glorifying morbidly obese is any better than glorifying super skinny. Neither is healthy. But I also don't believe in tearing people down because of their weight. Tess seems like a wonderful person and if she is happy, who am I to judge.

Her doctor should be judging her. Just because she "seems like a wonderful person" and "says" she is happy, does not make her a hero.

I read once where she said she thought no one could ever love her because she was fat and she had accepted that until she met her fiance Nick. That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself, especially because she has control over her body and can do something about it. Makes me sad.

What? That someone can love you unconditionally because they see something special about the person you are?

She was feeling unlovable because people like you were screaming that being fat made her worthless. But I guess Nick never got your message and now Tess has chosen to ignore you and live her life.

There was a time when I thought like you. And you know what happened to me? I gained weight. And you know what? I'm still me. The people who love ME are still by my side. The people who liked me for what my body looked like have long since scattered.

Wow are you stupid or overly sensitive or bad at reading or what? I said it made me feel sad that she thought no one could love her and that she just had to accept that. My heart went out to her. I didn't want someone else just to accept their fate because they were fat, because except in the most extenuating circumstances you have control over doing something about it.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth. In your double speak - she her unworthiness is controllable - she can lose weight! Eh, you have no idea how screwed up your message is.

No you are projecting. I said it made me feel sad that she felt that way. I had compassion for her. Stop trying to twist it.

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

Thank you, I have a very low tolerance for stupidity. My apologies for saying the f word.

But nobody was disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. The dispute was over the 100%, which is factually incorrect.

Yes, there is no disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. But what came first - the chicken or the egg. That is less than clear.

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

And it is also true that two people can eat the same diet and have vastly different results. You are perpetuating the myth that fat people have worse lifestyles than thin people. I do not think that is necessarily true. At all.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think glorifying morbidly obese is any better than glorifying super skinny. Neither is healthy. But I also don't believe in tearing people down because of their weight. Tess seems like a wonderful person and if she is happy, who am I to judge.

Her doctor should be judging her. Just because she "seems like a wonderful person" and "says" she is happy, does not make her a hero.

I read once where she said she thought no one could ever love her because she was fat and she had accepted that until she met her fiance Nick. That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself, especially because she has control over her body and can do something about it. Makes me sad.

What? That someone can love you unconditionally because they see something special about the person you are?

She was feeling unlovable because people like you were screaming that being fat made her worthless. But I guess Nick never got your message and now Tess has chosen to ignore you and live her life.

There was a time when I thought like you. And you know what happened to me? I gained weight. And you know what? I'm still me. The people who love ME are still by my side. The people who liked me for what my body looked like have long since scattered.

Wow are you stupid or overly sensitive or bad at reading or what? I said it made me feel sad that she thought no one could love her and that she just had to accept that. My heart went out to her. I didn't want someone else just to accept their fate because they were fat, because except in the most extenuating circumstances you have control over doing something about it.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth. In your double speak - she her unworthiness is controllable - she can lose weight! Eh, you have no idea how screwed up your message is.

It's the in-thing now to accept "curves" and love yourself if you are overweight. To me that cover is trying to do that. But it's also telling us morbid obesity is ok, when it's not. Just my 2 cents.

The girl has a beautiful face but the rolls of fat on her midsection and arms are not attractive or curvy.

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Give me that any day of this. Her arms are so inflated and are likely or will soon be edema that is makes me nauseous to look, this woman is not healthy and her need to make a cool slogan like "Eff your beauty standards" and champion fat acceptance is so sad. If only she put all that effort into a treadmill and portion control.

We go through this on every. single. thread. about. obesity. Many overweight/obese people do put in all that effort. And you know what? They're always going to be fat. I don't know why you and people like you seem to get a little thrill out of imagining that all fat people are because they're morally bankrupt, slothful and spend their free time squeezing mayonnaise and marshmallow creme into their mouths; the fat people I know, including my mother, are very careful with what they eat. The amounts, the kind of food. Just stop.

If you increase activity and decrease calories you will lose weight. Fact, so just stop.

Also its funny that fat defenders are putting all these words into peoples mouth (no pun intended) like "morally bankrupt" and getting a thrill...no one has said that.

*unless there is a rare extenuating medical circumstance - because I am sure one obscure one will be pointed out as evidence the american obesity epidemic is not all "thyroid" and "big boned"

The question at hand is "Is People Magazine glorifying obesity or celebrating diversity?"

My take on it is they believe their are celebrating diversity because that is the trend right now. People Magazine wants to sell magazines. The "Eff Your Beauty Standards" is a big deal right now but it is also facing backlash for not being accepting of "conventional beauty" and perpetuating the "real women have curves" argument.

Anyone who says it is healthy to be obese is fooling themselves. I see an obese person just like I do an addict. No matter how in control of it they are or accepting. You are unhealthy and it will catch up with you.

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Give me that any day of this. Her arms are so inflated and are likely or will soon be edema that is makes me nauseous to look, this woman is not healthy and her need to make a cool slogan like "Eff your beauty standards" and champion fat acceptance is so sad. If only she put all that effort into a treadmill and portion control.

We go through this on every. single. thread. about. obesity. Many overweight/obese people do put in all that effort. And you know what? They're always going to be fat. I don't know why you and people like you seem to get a little thrill out of imagining that all fat people are because they're morally bankrupt, slothful and spend their free time squeezing mayonnaise and marshmallow creme into their mouths; the fat people I know, including my mother, are very careful with what they eat. The amounts, the kind of food. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

Thank you, I have a very low tolerance for stupidity. My apologies for saying the f word.

But nobody was disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. The dispute was over the 100%, which is factually incorrect.

Here is your last word award. Mazel Tov.

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

Thank you, I have a very low tolerance for stupidity. My apologies for saying the f word.

But nobody was disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. The dispute was over the 100%, which is factually incorrect.

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.

Thank you, I have a very low tolerance for stupidity. My apologies for saying the f word.

Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct.