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Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland


Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.

You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.

Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.

Israel allowed all Ethiopian Jews to immigrate to Israel through the " right of return"

You have never been to Israel have you? Ethiopian Jews are BARELY tolerated.

Pp is right. There is a big uproar about violence against Ethiopian Jews in Israel, right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?

Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM.

The issue is the hypocrisy of being a country created to take in political refugees, and then deporting political refugees. In the 80s I worked for student groups that met with congress to persuade them to pressure the Soviets to release Jews to migrate to Israel. I felt bad for those Soviet Jews. So for me, the hypocrisy is apparent. It was never about whether these people were deserving of a peaceful place to live, or whether they were oppressed. It was all about raising the number of Jews vs. Muslims.

You'd feel even worse if you were one of these Soviet Jews on the receiving end of Israeli propaganda through the aliya outreach that sold them the notion of "land without people, people without land, y'all come". The existence of Palestinians and their claim to the land was never acknowledged except in passing as "these animals to whom we give jobs". The Soviet Jews were all enamored with the country that invited them to come in, gave them housing, jobs, schools - oh, by the way, these houses are likely to be in the occupied territories, but it doesn't matter, the land is all ours anyway. This is why former USSR Israelis are some of the most rabid right-wingers. The idea of Israel they've been sold simply does not include Palestinians, and they are fighting to preserve this idea. Feel sorry for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?

Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM.

The issue is the hypocrisy of being a country created to take in political refugees, and then deporting political refugees. In the 80s I worked for student groups that met with congress to persuade them to pressure the Soviets to release Jews to migrate to Israel. I felt bad for those Soviet Jews. So for me, the hypocrisy is apparent. It was never about whether these people were deserving of a peaceful place to live, or whether they were oppressed. It was all about raising the number of Jews vs. Muslims.

Which is the whole point of the State of Israel. Whether you agree with that or not. When civilized countries refuse to take in refugees freeing a holocaust, people who literally showed up on Canadian shores (for example) and when turned away ended up in gas chambers, then it's only natural to do whatever you can to establish a place that will never turn you away.

Yeah, even if you have to toss out whoever happens to live there at the time to make such a place. It's only natural.

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Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.

Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.

You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.

Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.

What is that supposed to mean?

clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.

How do the Israeli's treat their women and homosexuals? Seem like there would be more in those two groups than blacks.

You are saying that as long as women and homosexuals are ok, it's fine to beat up on some blacks?

Also, you may not know that homosexuals aren't actually allowed to marry each other in Israel. And neither are Jews and non-Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.

Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.

You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.

Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.

Israel allowed all Ethiopian Jews to immigrate to Israel through the " right of return"

You have never been to Israel have you? Ethiopian Jews are BARELY tolerated.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?

Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM.

The issue is the hypocrisy of being a country created to take in political refugees, and then deporting political refugees. In the 80s I worked for student groups that met with congress to persuade them to pressure the Soviets to release Jews to migrate to Israel. I felt bad for those Soviet Jews. So for me, the hypocrisy is apparent. It was never about whether these people were deserving of a peaceful place to live, or whether they were oppressed. It was all about raising the number of Jews vs. Muslims.

Which is the whole point of the State of Israel. Whether you agree with that or not. When civilized countries refuse to take in refugees freeing a holocaust, people who literally showed up on Canadian shores (for example) and when turned away ended up in gas chambers, then it's only natural to do whatever you can to establish a place that will never turn you away.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?

Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM.

The issue is the hypocrisy of being a country created to take in political refugees, and then deporting political refugees. In the 80s I worked for student groups that met with congress to persuade them to pressure the Soviets to release Jews to migrate to Israel. I felt bad for those Soviet Jews. So for me, the hypocrisy is apparent. It was never about whether these people were deserving of a peaceful place to live, or whether they were oppressed. It was all about raising the number of Jews vs. Muslims.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?

Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM.

Well Israel does support Al Qaida in Syria. Do you consider AQ a terrorist organization?

Anonymous wrote:Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?

Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Right wingers prove again they are the scions of the ideology of: "who gives a fuck about anyone else."

You can offer shelter to a refugee. What's stopping you?

They need a new country, not a sofa to crash on.

You can help one at a time.

They don't want a place to stay. They want a country to let them in. I am happy to approve their asylum request if you will authorize me.

In other words, not in my home or my backyard

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Anonymous wrote:You forgot the $3,500 per person part. And a ticket home or to another African country. Kind of a nice thing to do for people who you can't absorb without financial implications for your own country and people

Oh let's not kid ourselves. The issue is not financial. If these were Jews, they would be in.

And if Israel weren't a Jewish state, we wouldn't be obsessing about it. Let's not kid ourselves indeed.

if Israel were not a Jewish state then the point would be moot. It would just be Palestine. Possibly part of Jordan.

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Anonymous wrote:You forgot the $3,500 per person part. And a ticket home or to another African country. Kind of a nice thing to do for people who you can't absorb without financial implications for your own country and people

Oh let's not kid ourselves. The issue is not financial. If these were Jews, they would be in.

And if Israel weren't a Jewish state, we wouldn't be obsessing about it. Let's not kid ourselves indeed.

Anonymous wrote:Umm...we did turn away Jews from Europe. Study your history books, dumbass.

Yup. Lots of antisemitism.

Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.

Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.

You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.

Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.

Israel allowed all Ethiopian Jews to immigrate to Israel through the " right of return"

Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution?