Anonymous
Post 05/21/2015 07:00     Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:A short kiss on the first date, a longer one on the second and sex on the third.

Otherwise, move on.


+1

I mean: sure, maybe she is full of religiosity (pious, yadda, yadda) and there is no right or wrong answer, so maybe she just doesn't like to get physical (and having Jesus along on the date is irrelevant); no matter what: I'm into getting physical and I'm not religious, so we might as well find out right off the bat we're not compatible and not waste each other's time this way.

I can think of at least three dates where it played out this way.

Anonymous
Post 05/21/2015 05:48     Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
^^^ wow I'm sorry you date/know such shitty men.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2015 00:31     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Modern women are so stupid. 80% of men, once you let them have sex, will stop being fun and become convinced that your ideal evening consists of tv, maybe a video game, sex and then sleep. You have to wait and make them wait longer if you want to have any time where you do things you want to do.


+1M
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 22:34     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Modern women are so stupid. 80% of men, once you let them have sex, will stop being fun and become convinced that your ideal evening consists of tv, maybe a video game, sex and then sleep. You have to wait and make them wait longer if you want to have any time where you do things you want to do.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 22:24     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Women should have sex only when they want to have sex.

They should not be pressurized into thinking that they owe their date sex just because it is their nth date.

If the man is not interested because you are not putting out by a certain number of dates, they lose out.

Remember, women can find sex with a date or a male friend anytime they want.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 21:11     Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:
I don't feel like I know enough about anybody to kiss them on the second date. I am a slow burn though and if that means I miss out on some folks who are in a hurry, then so be it. I'm not kissing on or having sex with some virtual stranger. This, to me, is why dating is so awful now, so many folks want to rush through the necessary parts. If your goal is to find a companion and partner then stand upright and spend time together getting to know each other and enjoying each other's company. As for the "'free dinner" nonsense, stop taking dates to dinner. It's boring. We live in DC there are lots of free, fun and interesting things to do. Think outside the damn boring dinner date box.

Oh and I like sex and have a high sex drive, I just want to have lots of great sex with someone I know and feel comfortable with who is vested in me and the relationship and not some stranger.

Sure...you sound real experience. Does your chaperone know you are on this site?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 21:09     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Wow if things are not happening by the 3 date, it's over.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 15:44     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:I would go in for the first kiss upon pickup for the first date.

It sets the tone and takes a little pressure off; no tongue but a slightly open mouth brief kiss was always met with enthusiasm. End of the night kiss was on her and I said so in a joking way. I never had a bad reaction but a friend who tried my style never did it again after a woman canceled the remainder of the date.

I noticed more kissing and sex happens with usual irregularity.



ewwww.
Do not kiss women when you first pick them up. If you do, that just makes the woman nervous throughout the entire date that you expect sex afterwards...
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 15:41     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?


Today's liberated woman does not view sex as something to be ashamed or to that one should hold back. If there is not sufficient chemistry that would make both people want to have sex after three dates, why waste time on the relationship.

In days gone by, a woman who had sex too early in a relation was viewed as easy or a slut. Does not apply today.


I view sex as something I do with a person I love not someone I am still getting to know.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 15:38     Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:A short kiss on the first date, a longer one on the second and sex on the third.

Otherwise, move on.


get engaged by the fourth date and pregnant by the fifth, sixth date is your wedding....
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 13:11     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously if you are not having sex by the third date it's time to move on.


Seriously repeating this over and over isn't going to make everyone do it.


NP DH here: mid-40s, married more than 10 years, but when I was dating in my late 20s in the 1990s this was pretty much industry standard from my perspective. Sometimes not intercourse, but either that or a BJ in most cases. Not sure if my experience was an outlier or not, though.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 12:01     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Y'all have never heard of magic sex-date #3?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 08:33     Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:I don't feel like I know enough about anybody to kiss them on the second date. I am a slow burn though and if that means I miss out on some folks who are in a hurry, then so be it. I'm not kissing on or having sex with some virtual stranger. This, to me, is why dating is so awful now, so many folks want to rush through the necessary parts. If your goal is to find a companion and partner then stand upright and spend time together getting to know each other and enjoying each other's company. As for the "'free dinner" nonsense, stop taking dates to dinner. It's boring. We live in DC there are lots of free, fun and interesting things to do. Think outside the damn boring dinner date box.

Oh and I like sex and have a high sex drive, I just want to have lots of great sex with someone I know and feel comfortable with who is vested in me and the relationship and not some stranger.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2015 08:24     Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
I don't feel like I know enough about anybody to kiss them on the second date. I am a slow burn though and if that means I miss out on some folks who are in a hurry, then so be it. I'm not kissing on or having sex with some virtual stranger. This, to me, is why dating is so awful now, so many folks want to rush through the necessary parts. If your goal is to find a companion and partner then stand upright and spend time together getting to know each other and enjoying each other's company. As for the "'free dinner" nonsense, stop taking dates to dinner. It's boring. We live in DC there are lots of free, fun and interesting things to do. Think outside the damn boring dinner date box.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2015 17:40     Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Wanting to sleep with someone on date 3 doesn't mean it is the ideal thing to do. Even if you are only interested in something casual. I just wouldn't trust someone that fast to not have diseases or not be pyschotic.