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Anonymous wrote:Why do you all care so much?

Because it is taxing to my day to have to look at fugly people displaying their childhood trauma all over their bodies

Do you know what is taxing to my day? Having to look at brittle, semi-anorexic women with their brittle, over-bleached blonde hair, in their big black SUVs. Talk about fugly, inside and out. Every other woman I see in this area fits the bill. Give me tattoos any day.

They are the ones posting that they hate tattoos. They cover their tramp stamps they got in college cause it has dawned on them that tramp stamps are not classy.

I don't have tats and never will. Idgaf is someone does. It's not my body and doesn't concern me. In no way s a tatted person low class, trash, etc simply because you don't like tats.

Same with names. Whether you name your kid Tiffany or Caroline, it's not a marker for your place in life. So sick of judgmental pricks.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about this question tonight at dinner. Wife and I were waiting for a table and in walked this stunning female in her early twenties And dressed to kill. As most of us guys were checking her out simply because of her beauty, she turns around and has this huge tattoo of angle wings on her back.
You Could tell everyone was thinking the same thing as I. What a waste of a body on someone who's already lucky enough to be a 10. How do females think they'll look when they reach middle age or old.

What a waste!

Someone else's body doesn't exist to look good to you. It exists to please the person living in it with how it looks. If this person likes the tattoo, then it's not a waste.

+1000. Saying someone wasted their body is disgusting. That's a human being you are talking about.

Ok then wth is the point of a giant tattoo that you can't even see polarizes everyone who sees it? Answer seriously please

Maybe the point is just to irritate you.

A whole room of suitors interested..... and then disgusted. All because you had to get a giant tattoo that you couldn't even see. In your twenties it *might* seem like a good idea, but she WILL regret it if all kinds of good men reject her and she is unmarried and childless at 40.

Maybe the tattoo is actually filtering out the kind of men she doesn't want to marry -- the kind that will reject a woman out of hand for something that is purely aesthetic. Maybe the tattoo will help her find a man who will still love her when she is 50 and maybe her body isn't the same and her looks are no longer a "10" as you say.

There are worse things than being unmarried and childless at 40 (especially for women who don't want to get married or have children). Being in an unhappy marriage because you married some judgmental horntoad who only cares about a perfect body and ogles other women while he's at a restaurant WITH HIS WIFE -- that seems worse to me than being single at 40.

I married late because I wanted a man who would love me even if I shaved my head and got neck tattoos.

Anonymous wrote:I would sooner sleep with Guy Fieri.

1. I'm sure the person likes their look, which is all that matters.

2. If we are going to discuss the irrelevant question of whether others find the person attractive, there are definitely people -- maybe not you, which is totally fine and your own preference is what matters for you -- but people in general, who absolutely do. Different people different tastes

I, for example, think that person's body art is beautiful. I don't have tattoos or want any, but I personally think the person in the picture looks so interesting and quite lovely.

3. It doesn't matter whether you/I/anyone would want to sleep with the person. People aren't obligated to make choices about their own bodies in order to suit anyone else's preferences.

Tattoos, piercings, scarifications, other body modifications....they've all been around since the beginning of human history.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about this question tonight at dinner. Wife and I were waiting for a table and in walked this stunning female in her early twenties And dressed to kill. As most of us guys were checking her out simply because of her beauty, she turns around and has this huge tattoo of angle wings on her back.
You Could tell everyone was thinking the same thing as I. What a waste of a body on someone who's already lucky enough to be a 10. How do females think they'll look when they reach middle age or old.

What a waste!

Someone else's body doesn't exist to look good to you. It exists to please the person living in it with how it looks. If this person likes the tattoo, then it's not a waste.

+1000. Saying someone wasted their body is disgusting. That's a human being you are talking about.

Ok then wth is the point of a giant tattoo that you can't even see polarizes everyone who sees it? Answer seriously please

Maybe the point is just to irritate you.

A whole room of suitors interested..... and then disgusted. All because you had to get a giant tattoo that you couldn't even see. In your twenties it *might* seem like a good idea, but she WILL regret it if all kinds of good men reject her and she is unmarried and childless at 40.

No. You've posted that as a certain and inevitable fact, and it isn't. Someone might regret their tattoo or not, but you cannot know that.
1. People are always going to have different tastes so the person might always love it.
2. All kinds of men may be perfectly wonderful but the person the hypothetical "she" is looking for is probably someone who will love all of her, including tattoos. A person who's disgusted may not be a good match.
3. Someone's worth is not dependent on finding "a good man" and getting married. There are people who don't want that. And there are people who don't want that IF it requires changing their choices about their body to conform to someone else's preferences.

A woman's worth isn't based on whether you/someone/anyone finds her attractive as a potential mate. Your post and argument is inherently sexist.

Anonymous wrote:Seriously--when will this fucking die? I'm sick of seeing people covered with fugly tattoos.

It won't die because it's permanent!
It may die with the next generation as they try to be different from the previous one.

When I was growing up, the only tattoos were former servicemen, or former concentration camp survivors. So it's been near impossible for me to get over the idea of a tattoo as being either a (fine) military thing or a bad thing, but I recognize younger folks don't have that view. In the past, it me feel like the younger set was not in touch with history to make that choice to get one. But it's so pervasive now, I see that it has lost its historical place so I don't think that anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about this question tonight at dinner. Wife and I were waiting for a table and in walked this stunning female in her early twenties And dressed to kill. As most of us guys were checking her out simply because of her beauty, she turns around and has this huge tattoo of angle wings on her back.
You Could tell everyone was thinking the same thing as I. What a waste of a body on someone who's already lucky enough to be a 10. How do females think they'll look when they reach middle age or old.

What a waste!

Someone else's body doesn't exist to look good to you. It exists to please the person living in it with how it looks. If this person likes the tattoo, then it's not a waste.

+1000. Saying someone wasted their body is disgusting. That's a human being you are talking about.

Ok then wth is the point of a giant tattoo that you can't even see polarizes everyone who sees it? Answer seriously please

People who get tattoos do it for themselves, not for you. I don't care if you don't like it. That's your right, your taste, etc. Perfectly legitimate.

It's reducing a human being to nothing but her body is what I object to. Objectifying for lust or disgust. All the same. She's a human being with human feelings, human strengths, and human flaws. She is complex, just like everyone else. She's not a "waste of a body" just because you don't care for it.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about this question tonight at dinner. Wife and I were waiting for a table and in walked this stunning female in her early twenties And dressed to kill. As most of us guys were checking her out simply because of her beauty, she turns around and has this huge tattoo of angle wings on her back.
You Could tell everyone was thinking the same thing as I. What a waste of a body on someone who's already lucky enough to be a 10. How do females think they'll look when they reach middle age or old.

What a waste!

Someone else's body doesn't exist to look good to you. It exists to please the person living in it with how it looks. If this person likes the tattoo, then it's not a waste.

+1000. Saying someone wasted their body is disgusting. That's a human being you are talking about.

Ok then wth is the point of a giant tattoo that you can't even see polarizes everyone who sees it? Answer seriously please

Maybe the point is just to irritate you.

A whole room of suitors interested..... and then disgusted. All because you had to get a giant tattoo that you couldn't even see. In your twenties it *might* seem like a good idea, but she WILL regret it if all kinds of good men reject her and she is unmarried and childless at 40.

Or maybe she'll wind up with a good guy who likes tattoos. There are a lot of them around, contrary to what a lot of PPs believe, apparently. Or maybe she'll end up with a good WOMAN who likes tattoos.

Or, maybe she doesn't want to get married and doesn't want kids. This whole part of the conversation is incredibly misogynistic.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you whining and concern-trolling about what we tattooed people will look like when we're old, here's an answer for you.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisoncaporimo/24-reasons-to-never-get-a-tattoo

And my favorite response to such a ridiculous question:

I was just about to post this article!

I'm a 35-year-old mom who had a very happy childhood (and is in the middle of a very happy adulthood). I have three tattoos, going on four. My tattoos commemorate important things (a visual representation of my thesis topic) and people (my grandparents). I carry them with me. I'm also an educator in a creative field.

My brother is 31, had the same happy childhood and a similar happy adulthood, and he's covered with tattoos. Sleeves, calf pieces, a neck piece, even on his fingers. He's one of the most responsible and lovely people you'll ever meet, a wonderful uncle to my DS, and a leader in his creative field. He's also very colorful. The tattoo-haters here probably don't have to do business with him, so they won't have to worry about having to look at his tattoos. But they'd be missing out if they judged his character purely based on how he chooses to decorate himself.

For the love of god why?

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Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about this question tonight at dinner. Wife and I were waiting for a table and in walked this stunning female in her early twenties And dressed to kill. As most of us guys were checking her out simply because of her beauty, she turns around and has this huge tattoo of angle wings on her back.
You Could tell everyone was thinking the same thing as I. What a waste of a body on someone who's already lucky enough to be a 10. How do females think they'll look when they reach middle age or old.

What a waste!

Someone else's body doesn't exist to look good to you. It exists to please the person living in it with how it looks. If this person likes the tattoo, then it's not a waste.

+1000. Saying someone wasted their body is disgusting. That's a human being you are talking about.

Ok then wth is the point of a giant tattoo that you can't even see polarizes everyone who sees it? Answer seriously please

Maybe the point is just to irritate you.

A whole room of suitors interested..... and then disgusted. All because you had to get a giant tattoo that you couldn't even see. In your twenties it *might* seem like a good idea, but she WILL regret it if all kinds of good men reject her and she is unmarried and childless at 40.

Anonymous wrote:All of you whining and concern-trolling about what we tattooed people will look like when we're old, here's an answer for you.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisoncaporimo/24-reasons-to-never-get-a-tattoo

And my favorite response to such a ridiculous question:

I was just about to post this article!

I'm a 35-year-old mom who had a very happy childhood (and is in the middle of a very happy adulthood). I have three tattoos, going on four. My tattoos commemorate important things (a visual representation of my thesis topic) and people (my grandparents). I carry them with me. I'm also an educator in a creative field.

My brother is 31, had the same happy childhood and a similar happy adulthood, and he's covered with tattoos. Sleeves, calf pieces, a neck piece, even on his fingers. He's one of the most responsible and lovely people you'll ever meet, a wonderful uncle to my DS, and a leader in his creative field. He's also very colorful. The tattoo-haters here probably don't have to do business with him, so they won't have to worry about having to look at his tattoos. But they'd be missing out if they judged his character purely based on how he chooses to decorate himself.

Anonymous wrote:All of you whining and concern-trolling about what we tattooed people will look like when we're old, here's an answer for you.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisoncaporimo/24-reasons-to-never-get-a-tattoo

And my favorite response to such a ridiculous question:

Good lord is that disgusting

Anonymous wrote:I have a small one in a hidden spot that I got when I was 18. I'm glad mine is hidden, as I've worked in a really conservative and judgmental field. I also feel embarrassed for people who don't even give themselves the option of being able to hide theirs.

I have two small tattoos in places where people can't see them unless I want to show them.

I actually envy the people who don't give themselves the option of hiding theirs. I wish I didn't care and didn't have to care what other people think. You seem to miss the point. You don't have to be "embarrassed" for them. They don't care what you think or what others think. Maybe they pity us for having to hide something we like on our own bodies because of fear of judgment.

When I retire, I'm going to get huge tattoos in very visible places -- and yep, I won't care how it shows on my saggy, old skin. I'll be living free.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously--when will this fucking die? I'm sick of seeing people covered with fugly tattoos.

I agree. I find tattoos low class.

So don't get one.

I haven't and I won't and I will continue to have an opinion on the matter.

Why does it matter to you at all what's on someone else's body as long as they're not asking you to put it on yours?

Because I have functioning eyes and your tattoo is in their sight. Same thing as when people smell bad.

By that standard you should get to be the judge of tacky outfits as well.

Or maybe someone else's assessment should be applied to you.

The trouble is, we all have eyes. And different opinions on what looks good.

Who wins?

I vote, the person whose body the thing is on is the one whose opinion matters.

+1 Oh, woe is me, all of the people who have to suffer by seeing someone with a tattoo! What about people who are naturally hideous? Should they cover themselves so that your functioning eyes don't have to view them?

I actually feel more at ease when I walk into a place and see a room full of people with major tattoos (full sleeves). That's probably just because my experience has always been that I've had a better time with those people. It's the uptight, stodgy people who squash my sense of joy.