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Anonymous wrote:They are full of grammatical and syntax errors.

You oppose the Common Core standards because you think the copy editors did a bad job?

Who are you? Like seriously, who are you? I'm a np here and you seriously seem crazy to me in your insane defense and love of common core. Why? There has to be some reason. It must benefit you personally in some way.

There are multiple not-anti-Common-Core posters on this thread. On the other Common Core threads, too.

I do not benefit personally in any way from the Common Core, except insofar as I think that my daughter in elementary school is getting a better education than she would have without the Common Core. Do you benefit personally in some way from opposing the Common Core?

What does that even mean, do I benefit from opposing it? Where did I say that I opposed in in my post? Again, you truly seem crazy. I don't have kids in schools that use common core, but I know about it from friends that do and from articles I've read. I've not heard one single person defend it the way you seem to on this thread. How can you know if your daughter is getting a better education because of common core? I want to know that and show me some proof while you're at it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are full of grammatical and syntax errors.

You oppose the Common Core standards because you think the copy editors did a bad job?

Who are you? Like seriously, who are you? I'm a np here and you seriously seem crazy to me in your insane defense and love of common core. Why? There has to be some reason. It must benefit you personally in some way.

There are multiple not-anti-Common-Core posters on this thread. On the other Common Core threads, too.

I do not benefit personally in any way from the Common Core, except insofar as I think that my daughter in elementary school is getting a better education than she would have without the Common Core. Do you benefit personally in some way from opposing the Common Core?

Seems to me there are some pretty fanatical anti-CC posters, who keep trying to post the same tired old long-ago-debunked talking points over and over, as though repeating them often enough will somehow make them true.

NEA: http://www.nea.org/home/46653.htm

NEA’s Position on Common Core State Standards

NEA’s Vision & Goal Statement
NEA believes the Common Core State Standards have the potential to provide access to a complete and challenging education for all children.

American Federation of Teachers passed a resolution at their National Convention in July 2014 "reaffirming the AFT's support for the promise and potential of the Common Core State Standards as a way to ensure all children have the knowledge and skills they need to succeed in the 21st century."

They did cite concern about some botched implementations, but implementation has been the responsibility of state education officials and school districts - not of Common Core.

National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM) - SUPPORTS Common Core

http://www.nctm.org/ccssmposition/

National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) - SUPPORTS Common Core.

http://www.ncte.org/standards/common-core

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are full of grammatical and syntax errors.

You oppose the Common Core standards because you think the copy editors did a bad job?

Who are you? Like seriously, who are you? I'm a np here and you seriously seem crazy to me in your insane defense and love of common core. Why? There has to be some reason. It must benefit you personally in some way.

There are multiple not-anti-Common-Core posters on this thread. On the other Common Core threads, too.

I do not benefit personally in any way from the Common Core, except insofar as I think that my daughter in elementary school is getting a better education than she would have without the Common Core. Do you benefit personally in some way from opposing the Common Core?

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If you had read that link several times before you would have picked up on the fact that it cites a cast of thousands that were involved, along with providing links to some of the folks who were involved in the workgroups and committees, for example http://www.nga.org/files/live/sites/NGA/files/pdf/2010COMMONCOREK12TEAM.PDF. The site talks about the many groups, organizations et cetera that were consulted and involved in the development process, for example National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM), National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) et cetera. It thoroughly debunks your repeated insistence that the standards were developed in secret, that nobody had input, that there were no experts or teachers involved.

Suggest you google and see what these groups say now about their input. They are not pleased.

Nice try but no cigar. This was also already dealt with in another thread. I already did google it, and you are mistaken, your belief that "they are not pleased" is based on spin taken from a vote taken by one of the groups mentioned saying they would provide some public documentation and critique under the banner of their organization if there was anything that they felt was problematic or which they felt went counter to their policies. That was a couple years ago, as they were just starting into the process. Since then, in the couple of years that have since come and gone, they have NOT made any such release, which tells me they did NOT find anything problematic or counter to their policies.

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Anonymous wrote:They are full of grammatical and syntax errors.

You oppose the Common Core standards because you think the copy editors did a bad job?

Who are you? Like seriously, who are you? I'm a np here and you seriously seem crazy to me in your insane defense and love of common core. Why? There has to be some reason. It must benefit you personally in some way.

Anonymous wrote:They are full of grammatical and syntax errors.

You oppose the Common Core standards because you think the copy editors did a bad job?

They are full of grammatical and syntax errors.

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Someone mentioned that the CC sets the standards, but the individual school districts write their own curriculum. Yet, there will be common standardized exams and who will write those?

In fact, it seems that CC is trying to drive the process or why else would people be complaining about the math instruction? There are also many materials and texts "aligned" with the CC. Would those become part of the "curriculum" or would a school district create all new?

There will be annual standardized tests for grades 3-8 aligned to the Common Core standards (PARCC and Smarter Balanced) because the federal No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (before the Common Core standards) requires these tests. The requirement for the annual standardized tests is not new.

Whether a school district buys a curriculum developed by somebody else or develops its own curriculum is up to the school district.

If you had read that link several times before you would have picked up on the fact that it cites a cast of thousands that were involved, along with providing links to some of the folks who were involved in the workgroups and committees, for example http://www.nga.org/files/live/sites/NGA/files/pdf/2010COMMONCOREK12TEAM.PDF. The site talks about the many groups, organizations et cetera that were consulted and involved in the development process, for example National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM), National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) et cetera. It thoroughly debunks your repeated insistence that the standards were developed in secret, that nobody had input, that there were no experts or teachers involved.

Suggest you google and see what these groups say now about their input. They are not pleased.

If you had read that link several times before you would have picked up on the fact that it cites a cast of thousands that were involved, along with providing links to some of the folks who were involved in the workgroups and committees, for example http://www.nga.org/files/live/sites/NGA/files/pdf/2010COMMONCOREK12TEAM.PDF. The site talks about the many groups, organizations et cetera that were consulted and involved in the development process, for example National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM), National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) et cetera. It thoroughly debunks your repeated insistence that the standards were developed in secret, that nobody had input, that there were no experts or teachers involved.

If you dig deeper, you will find that it was NOT a cast of thousands. The links of the folks directly involved do not include but a couple of classroom teachers. Go read it yourself.

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For the person who keeps insisting that Common Core did not have any input, that it was developed in secret, here is some reading for you.

http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/

I've read that link several times before. Where does it give the information about who was on the committees. It tells us nothing.

If you had read that link several times before you would have picked up on the fact that it cites a cast of thousands that were involved, along with providing links to some of the folks who were involved in the workgroups and committees, for example http://www.nga.org/files/live/sites/NGA/files/pdf/2010COMMONCOREK12TEAM.PDF. The site talks about the many groups, organizations et cetera that were consulted and involved in the development process, for example National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM), National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) et cetera. It thoroughly debunks your repeated insistence that the standards were developed in secret, that nobody had input, that there were no experts or teachers involved.

Someone mentioned that the CC sets the standards, but the individual school districts write their own curriculum. Yet, there will be common standardized exams and who will write those?

In fact, it seems that CC is trying to drive the process or why else would people be complaining about the math instruction? There are also many materials and texts "aligned" with the CC. Would those become part of the "curriculum" or would a school district create all new?

Teachers played a critical role in development

The Common Core State Standards drafting process relied on teachers and standards experts from across the country. Teachers were involved in the development process in four ways:
1)They served on the Work Groups and Feedback Groups for the ELA and math standards.

This is from your link. If you research this, you will find ONE math teacher on the feedback group. One. I think there may have been ONE on the ELA group--but no more.

For the person who keeps insisting that Common Core did not have any input, that it was developed in secret, here is some reading for you.

http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/

I've read that link several times before. Where does it give the information about who was on the committees. It tells us nothing.