I suggest acknowledging that there is a forest.

I think people do acknowledge that. That is not going to help OP's attitude. The teacher tried to deflect. The child stated a fact.

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There's a whole forest surrounding that tree you're focusing on.

What do you suggest doing? Getting rid of Elsa?

I suggest acknowledging that there is a forest.

There's a whole forest surrounding that tree you're focusing on.

What do you suggest doing? Getting rid of Elsa?

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Do you have a bona fide interest in a genuine dialog about race?

If you cannot help your daughter realize that a cartoon character is an imaginary--albeit fun-character, the problem is not about race.

There's a whole forest surrounding that tree you're focusing on.

Do you have a bona fide interest in a genuine dialog about race?

If you cannot help your daughter realize that a cartoon character is an imaginary--albeit fun-character, the problem is not about race.

Anonymous wrote:So, you think Disney princesses are role models? But NBA players are not.........

Do you have a white son who you think has problems with his self-image because he's never going to be a 6'8" black basketball player? Do you have evidence that this is a widespread phenomenon among white boys?

Do you have a bona fide interest in a genuine dialog about race?

So, you think Disney princesses are role models? But NBA players are not.........

Anonymous wrote:

It's very privileged never to have been in a position where you don't notice what effect the whiteness of the most heavily marketed and desirable characters -- Disney princesses -- has on young girls who aren't white. It's privileged not to have had to worry about whether your daughter will grow up wishing she was another race, or thinking that girls are prettier when they are white, or preferring white beauty standards.

Curious....do you have a son? Ever notice NBA players. Do white boys have a problem with that?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the analogy. I can't tell if you are being facetious or not.

I have never worried that my white son will end up feeling as though the masculine ideal in his culture is a Black basketball player, if that's what you are asking. There's much greater diversity in male role models -- in the sense that there are wide variety of athletic role models, scientific role models, political role models, and so on, for boys. Although they are disproportionately White.

It's very privileged never to have been in a position where you don't notice what effect the whiteness of the most heavily marketed and desirable characters -- Disney princesses -- has on young girls who aren't white. It's privileged not to have had to worry about whether your daughter will grow up wishing she was another race, or thinking that girls are prettier when they are white, or preferring white beauty standards.

Curious....do you have a son? Ever notice NBA players. Do white boys have a problem with that?

Anonymous wrote:Sigh. Racism is alive and well. If you can't see the privilege oozing in this thread you are willfully blind because it benefits you to not see.

Yawn.

I enjoy the benefits of hard work and achievement.

If you need to justify your own failures by stupidly attributing it all to my skin color, go ahead. You're just setting yourself up for further failure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sigh. Racism is alive and well. If you can't see the privilege oozing in this thread you are willfully blind because it benefits you to not see.

(This is not sarcastic): Help me see it. Please quote from something said here that oozes privilege. It is so hard to know what I am saying or thinking wrong, because sometimes it seems like nothing I do is right as a white person attempting to talk about race. Sometimes I don't know how possibly to help except just be sorry for who I am and what I represent.

It's very privileged never to have been in a position where you don't notice what effect the whiteness of the most heavily marketed and desirable characters -- Disney princesses -- has on young girls who aren't white. It's privileged not to have had to worry about whether your daughter will grow up wishing she was another race, or thinking that girls are prettier when they are white, or preferring white beauty standards.

Toni Morrison wrote on this subject, as I recall, in a book called The Bluest Eye or something like that. Dolls patterned after the blonde ideal (false ideal, don't misunderstand me now) have negative effects. Look to Disney's African American role model Doc McStuffins as an example for all children. Her stuffed friends come in all shapes, sizes and colors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sigh. Racism is alive and well. If you can't see the privilege oozing in this thread you are willfully blind because it benefits you to not see.

(This is not sarcastic): Help me see it. Please quote from something said here that oozes privilege. It is so hard to know what I am saying or thinking wrong, because sometimes it seems like nothing I do is right as a white person attempting to talk about race. Sometimes I don't know how possibly to help except just be sorry for who I am and what I represent.

It's very privileged never to have been in a position where you don't notice what effect the whiteness of the most heavily marketed and desirable characters -- Disney princesses -- has on young girls who aren't white. It's privileged not to have had to worry about whether your daughter will grow up wishing she was another race, or thinking that girls are prettier when they are white, or preferring white beauty standards.

Anonymous wrote:Sigh. Racism is alive and well. If you can't see the privilege oozing in this thread you are willfully blind because it benefits you to not see.

(This is not sarcastic): Help me see it. Please quote from something said here that oozes privilege. It is so hard to know what I am saying or thinking wrong, because sometimes it seems like nothing I do is right as a white person attempting to talk about race. Sometimes I don't know how possibly to help except just be sorry for who I am and what I represent.

Sigh. Racism is alive and well. If you can't see the privilege oozing in this thread you are willfully blind because it benefits you to not see.

What do you want posters to do? Attack the teacher?

Sigh. Racism is alive and well. If you can't see the privilege oozing in this thread you are willfully blind because it benefits you to not see.