Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:59     Subject: I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:OP I'm not understanding what you mean by being a white woman trapped in a black woman's body. Nothing you have said so far is attributed to either race. Clarify what specifically is it that makes you not black? The type of music you listen to, the neighborhood you live in, nor who you socialize other make you black or white in the way you've described.

I am a mixed race immigrant, I mostly identify as black, I live in a white neighborhood, have mostly white friends, am a nerd, didn't fit in with AA when I first moved here, etc., the list goes on. I have never felt like I was a white woman trapped in a black woman's body. It sounds like you are stereotyping yourself, it sounds really strange. Be careful what you're teaching your daughter, you shouldn't make your identity based on whether you like pop music or hip hop...


Maybe because you are a black immigrant.


Elaborate


How long have you been in the US? Do you view AAs differently from immigrant blacks? OP is AA because she was born and raised here but she doesn't fit in with that group. But as a mixed race immigrant, you do not have that commonality with AAs and your identity probably was formed before you got here.


This is OP. I agree. The black immigrant experience is very different than the AA experience. My husband has no AA friends - he just does not relate to the culture.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:57     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:In a room where the majority of people are AAs and there is a sprinkling of whites, who do you hang out with? Assuming you don't know anyone there.


I usually would talk to everyone. But I would make an effort to talk to some of the white people because I know what it feels like to be the "only one" or one of few in a room.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:56     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:Do you like Stuff White People Like?


Some but not all.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:56     Subject: I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:We really need more black nerds! Why do you think the countervailing perception is that AA's shy away from academia?


I am not sure. But I presume that the black nerds that do exist are usually the children of Blacks of a higher socioeconomic status. It would not be "cool" to be a nerd just like it's not cool among white kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:54     Subject: I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which elements of black culture do you appreciate and admire?


They are very warm and loyal.



That's it? How about the arts... jazz, literature? Yeesh.


Why is this offensive to you. Every race has contributed to the arts, jazz and literature - nothing in particular stood out to me other than the traits I mentioned.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:43     Subject: I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
I just read the posts prior to mine and am happy to see others making the same point.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:42     Subject: I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
I haven't read all the responses, but I find this so sad. Everything you like? There are other black people who like it also. You are not "not black" bc you don't fit some stereotypical image of a black person.

Signed,
A black woman who can't dance, speaks properly, has high SES, plenty of white friends, and otherwise defies ignorant stereotyping, but still knows that I am black.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:39     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.


What I find interesting is that the bad behavior of black people is somehow considered our culture. Why is our culture defined by our lower class folks? Is white culture meth and heroin addiction, pedophilia and white collar crime?

+1 Thank you
Incognita
Post 01/04/2015 18:37     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.

OP is not at all unique, that is what I think she doesn't understand. There are plenty of aa women who don't embody the negative stereotypes that we are inundated with. We are everywhere, except on reality tv of course.


Exactly!
Incognita
Post 01/04/2015 18:36     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.


OP has not once discussed the destructive choices that are problematic for the AA community, she has only labelled herself white because she gets along with white people? Does that actually make sense? I am not AA, I do not glorify any destructive choices of ANY community. I share almost nothing with AA culture, I am who I am and capable of having my own identity. I also am broad minded enough to not make generalizations that if OP is not embodying ignorant stereotypes that she is a white.


I am upper middle class, married to a white man and raising a multiracial daughter, and share a lot with OP on interests and environment. I still don't understand her. It just seems silly. I'm waiting to hear if there is something deeper compelling her to see herself the way she does, behind these superficial examples.


I'm not OP. But I do have a question, if you really "share nothing with AA culture", then do you not identify with any culture? Any at all? That seems self-denying to me. There are people you hang out with, people who share the same quirks and likes as you. That is, by definition, their culture. Are there no group of people who have the same little tastes (in food, music, sports, discussion topics, etc) that you feel you belong to? At least OP does feel a part of a culture, even if it is not the one we would guess she would feel a part of due to her appearance. I think she is very honest to admit this to herself.


I identify as black, as mixed race, with elements of my Indian culture with elements of my Latina culture. I do not identify with AA culture because I am not AA. I do not share anything with AA culture because the cultures I was raised with are nothing like AA culture, not sure how that is self denying. My point is being smart, middle class, liking pop or being nerdy has nothing to do with being black or white. You said that your quirks are the definition of your culture, well that is wrong I'm afraid, that is the definition of your personality. And the personalities can be found in many different races. I am black, I identify as such without embodying anything that people believe to be stereotypically AA.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:36     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.


What I find interesting is that the bad behavior of black people is somehow considered our culture. Why is our culture defined by our lower class folks? Is white culture meth and heroin addiction, pedophilia and white collar crime?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:34     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.


This
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:30     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.

OP is not at all unique, that is what I think she doesn't understand. There are plenty of aa women who don't embody the negative stereotypes that we are inundated with. We are everywhere, except on reality tv of course.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2015 18:29     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.


OP has not once discussed the destructive choices that are problematic for the AA community, she has only labelled herself white because she gets along with white people? Does that actually make sense? I am not AA, I do not glorify any destructive choices of ANY community. I share almost nothing with AA culture, I am who I am and capable of having my own identity. I also am broad minded enough to not make generalizations that if OP is not embodying ignorant stereotypes that she is a white.


I am upper middle class, married to a white man and raising a multiracial daughter, and share a lot with OP on interests and environment. I still don't understand her. It just seems silly. I'm waiting to hear if there is something deeper compelling her to see herself the way she does, behind these superficial examples.


I'm not OP. But I do have a question, if you really "share nothing with AA culture", then do you not identify with any culture? Any at all? That seems self-denying to me. There are people you hang out with, people who share the same quirks and likes as you. That is, by definition, their culture. Are there no group of people who have the same little tastes (in food, music, sports, discussion topics, etc) that you feel you belong to? At least OP does feel a part of a culture, even if it is not the one we would guess she would feel a part of due to her appearance. I think she is very honest to admit this to herself.
Incognita
Post 01/04/2015 18:17     Subject: Re:I am a White Woman Trapped in a Black Woman's Body! AMA
Anonymous wrote:
Incognita wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black woman here and I find something distasteful in your posts, OP. Not sure what it is, but...not cute.

+1 I'm an aa woman who also went to private school, grew up in a white neighborhood, listen to alt/pop/rock and hip hop in equal measure, and have some 'nerdy' interests. Yet I would never dream of characterizing myself the way OP does.


+1 To you both.


eh. +1 to the OP for rejecting aspects of the culture that seems to glorify destructive choices.


OP has not once discussed the destructive choices that are problematic for the AA community, she has only labelled herself white because she gets along with white people? Does that actually make sense? I am not AA, I do not glorify any destructive choices of ANY community. I share almost nothing with AA culture, I am who I am and capable of having my own identity. I also am broad minded enough to not make generalizations that if OP is not embodying ignorant stereotypes that she is a white.


I am upper middle class, married to a white man and raising a multiracial daughter, and share a lot with OP on interests and environment. I still don't understand her. It just seems silly. I'm waiting to hear if there is something deeper compelling her to see herself the way she does, behind these superficial examples.