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It's been discussed ad nauseum on this thread and WE GET IT.

No, you don't.

http://bit.ly/1egpHAl

Uh, yep, we do. I like your link and agree with it, but it has nothing to do with the necessity of reporting a rape.

It's been discussed ad nauseum on this thread and WE GET IT.

No, you don't.

http://bit.ly/1egpHAl

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It's not victim blaming to expect women to be part of the solution.

Please explain. Men are the ones raping. Men are the ones who need to stop. That is the solution.

You mean SOME men are raping. True. That definitely needs to stop and these criminals need to be prosecuted. But because we don't live in this idealized, perfect world some of you are imagining (the "if only everyone would band together and stop raping, problem solved"-mentality) and there will unfortunately always be SOME men who continue to rape, I plan on teaching my young daughter how to protect herself as much as possible when she goes to college. I've already taught my sons how to respect women, how 'no means no', and how to step in if they ever witness a situation such as rape (or any kind of assault). They know not to binge drink. They are ready to do their part.

I'm not going to presume that my daughter doesn't need to know anything about self-preservation. She'll need to know how to always stay in a group, not to binge drink, not to go anywhere alone with a man she's just met, especially "upstairs" at a frat, and if none of the above help her stay safe, she will be councelled to call 911 immediately if the worst happens and she or anyone she knows is raped. The police and doctors need to be brought in, a rape kit and statements need to be taken. I'm sick to death of hearing about all the reasons girls/women don't report rape. It's been discussed ad nauseum on this thread and WE GET IT. Now we need to councel our daughters that the best way to prove a rape occured, get a conviction, and prevent the same person from raping again is to report it immediately. Those of you that want to call this "rape apology" or "victim blaming" need to have your heads examined. I hope to God that my daughter and yours are never raped. There are few things more painful to have to recover from. But because we live in the real world, my husband and I are hopefully going to equip her the best way we can to protect herself.

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Anonymous wrote:a better handle on the concept of rape vs. regret

So that people who would blame the victim will instead understand that a woman doesn't charge a man with rape because she regrets sleeping with him. That would be great -- I don't know how that theory manages to survive, but it needs to be squashed.

That's not what I took away from PPs comment. At all.

Oh, believe me, it's not what I got from it, either. I am just spending my time coming up with novel ways of pointing out that a lot of the suggestions here are shining examples of victim blaming and rape culture generally, so they are the opposite of solutions.

It's not victim blaming to expect women to be part of the solution.

Couldn't agree more.

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Anonymous wrote:Men are being completely emasculated, it will be interesting to see what happens to men in the future. Maybe men can stay at home and watch tv all day while the wife works.

Oh noooo the poor mens who are being emasculated because there are serious calls to end sexual harassment, violence, rape, sexual assaults, etc. on campuses. Waaaaah wahhhhhh.

x2!! Can everyone PLEASE stop talking about the important issues of rape and sexual assault and wage disparity? It's making the menz feel uncomfortable!! Just STAHP!

I also would like to get rid of women sports. There should just be sports no men or women sports. Also bathrooms . I also want to make sure that men can also give birth and breastfeed. EQUALITY FOR ALL.

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I would love if men could give birth or breastfeed! Would be amazing!

Unisex bathrooms already exist, many bars and restaurants have them. And women sometimes play in men's leagues. Sounds like the world you're describing is coming true and I couldnt be happier!

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Anonymous wrote:Men are being completely emasculated, it will be interesting to see what happens to men in the future. Maybe men can stay at home and watch tv all day while the wife works.

Oh noooo the poor mens who are being emasculated because there are serious calls to end sexual harassment, violence, rape, sexual assaults, etc. on campuses. Waaaaah wahhhhhh.

x2!! Can everyone PLEASE stop talking about the important issues of rape and sexual assault and wage disparity? It's making the menz feel uncomfortable!! Just STAHP!

I also would like to get rid of women sports. There should just be sports no men or women sports. Also bathrooms . I also want to make sure that men can also give birth and breastfeed. EQUALITY FOR ALL.

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Anonymous wrote:Men are being completely emasculated, it will be interesting to see what happens to men in the future. Maybe men can stay at home and watch tv all day while the wife works.

Oh noooo the poor mens who are being emasculated because there are serious calls to end sexual harassment, violence, rape, sexual assaults, etc. on campuses. Waaaaah wahhhhhh.

x2!! Can everyone PLEASE stop talking about the important issues of rape and sexual assault and wage disparity? It's making the menz feel uncomfortable!! Just STAHP!

Anonymous wrote:Men are being completely emasculated, it will be interesting to see what happens to men in the future. Maybe men can stay at home and watch tv all day while the wife works.

That would be great to me! I would love it (And I'm a female). Looks like it's heading in that direction anyway with differences in college graduation. What's going to happen is the ugly and misogynistic men will no longer be able to get laid- they will have to show women some respect or perish, as women gain more and more earning potential. I love it.

Anonymous wrote:Men are being completely emasculated, it will be interesting to see what happens to men in the future. Maybe men can stay at home and watch tv all day while the wife works.

Oh noooo the poor mens who are being emasculated because there are serious calls to end sexual harassment, violence, rape, sexual assaults, etc. on campuses. Waaaaah wahhhhhh.

Men are being completely emasculated, it will be interesting to see what happens to men in the future. Maybe men can stay at home and watch tv all day while the wife works.

More learning and working, less screwing around. Cut the BS that college is anything other than 4 years of daycare. Strip out the "student life" aspect; make these young adults get their useful (key word there) degree and get out.

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It's not victim blaming to expect women to be part of the solution.

Please explain. Men are the ones raping. Men are the ones who need to stop. That is the solution.

x2. "Women being part of the solution" is just another form of victim blaming, when you look at the statistics in terms of the gender difference between rapists and victims.

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It's not victim blaming to expect women to be part of the solution.

Please explain. Men are the ones raping. Men are the ones who need to stop. That is the solution.

End social fraternities/sororities. Yes, I know excessive drinking and drug use happens at off-campus and non-Greek parties. But there's something about the Greek system that turns people, young men especially, into reprehensible douchebags. Must be the indoctrination and groupthink involved with rushing? I dunno. But I went to a state school known for partying, and went to my fair share of college parties where heavy drinking occurred. And I had a variety of friends - theater kids, friends involved with lower-profile sports (rowing, sailing, hockey), kids in the anime and video games clubs, druggies, townies, musicians, nerds, all walks of life really. I know of not one sexual assault that happened at my friends' off-campus parties. NOT. ONE.

And turn over prosecutions of sexual assault to the town police. Universities should have nothing to do with it. Campus security is like mall security - they might help if you get something stolen out of your dorm room but they need to leave the investigation of serious crimes to the police. The doctors and nurses at the campus health centers should be able to perform a rape kit and should be mandatory reporters to law enforcement. The problem is that these campus rapists aren't being held responsible for their crimes. They're suspended from school for a semester or a year or whatever - whoop-de-fucking-doo. They're not prosecuted and they don't do any prison time because of people at the universities who discourage girls from reporting their assaults to the police.

In the short term, have campus police/real police check in on the frats all weekend long during the parties. I went to a big state school with tons of frats/sororities. I went to frat parties as a freshman because I wanted the free beer. The guys who let you into the parties completely knew I was underage - I was only 18 and looked super young for my age. I had a couple of those frat guys flat out tell me that they were letting me in but just not to tell them my age because they didn't want to know. Luckily, nothing bad ever befell me, but I was a pretty cynical, suspicious girl who would only drink what I watched them get from the keg and that the frat brothers were also drinking. I also always went with one or two like-minded friends - we actually were not into the Greek system at all and were not interested in the guys (we were alternative types back then ) but there was nowhere else to get free alcohol so easily. But it was a messed up scene - definitely all about getting the girls drunk.

These frats have to be good with the universities or they get kicked off campus, etc., so I wonder if the cops could just police them more. Have a large presence on fraternity row, walk the beat. Every single weekend night. Maybe that would act as a deterrent. I never once saw a cop during my trips to the frats - not one anywhere near the row.