Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know anything about that woman and her relations with God. I can only speak about my prayers that I thought were un-answered.
do you think bad relations with God could mean bad things happening to a person?
Anonymous wrote:I don't know anything about that woman and her relations with God. I can only speak about my prayers that I thought were un-answered.
Anonymous wrote:God does answer our prayers, but not always the way we want. Or we will see the answer/reasoning later, much later.
Here is my stories (I have more, but going to tell you just two):
My first and biggest love happened in my mid-20's. The guy was the one (at least I thought back then), we lived together for 3 years, I even was pregnant (and had miscarriage) and he left me. I could not understand it back then, was praying, was ready to do anything to get him back. Fast forward 15 years later, I am happily married with two great kids, house, job, etc. I found out last year that that guy received life sentence for shooting his wife and one of her children (and left other child disabled). I googled the article in the news to see that the woman is a copy of me -- short blond hair, skinny, short. That was the time when I realized why God didn't answer my prayers. And thanked him. Because He knows what is the best for you.
Second story happened at my job. I was working for the government agency for 6 years. Had two young children back then, was nursing both of them for more than a year each child, so didn't have much time to socialise after work with colleges and boss. Found out that the guy (who was hired almost a year after me) who was constantly hanging out in the bars with all bosses got promoted. Was so pissed off! Kept asking the God all the time how does this happened. Quit the job (it was more emotional, rather than rational decision back then). But three years later, I am so better off financially. I was able to travel the world with my kids. Now I am thanking the God every day that I did not got promoted back then. Have I got promoted, I would probably be still there in the same office with the same boring job.
I am truly believe that God does answer our prayers and he knows what is the best for us. Just be patient, and you will see that things are happen for reason. Good luck!
Anonymous wrote:God does answer our prayers, but not always the way we want. Or we will see the answer/reasoning later, much later.
Here is my stories (I have more, but going to tell you just two):
My first and biggest love happened in my mid-20's. The guy was the one (at least I thought back then), we lived together for 3 years, I even was pregnant (and had miscarriage) and he left me. I could not understand it back then, was praying, was ready to do anything to get him back. Fast forward 15 years later, I am happily married with two great kids, house, job, etc. I found out last year that that guy received life sentence for shooting his wife and one of her children (and left other child disabled). I googled the article in the news to see that the woman is a copy of me -- short blond hair, skinny, short. That was the time when I realized why God didn't answer my prayers. And thanked him. Because He knows what is the best for you.
Second story happened at my job. I was working for the government agency for 6 years. Had two young children back then, was nursing both of them for more than a year each child, so didn't have much time to socialise after work with colleges and boss. Found out that the guy (who was hired almost a year after me) who was constantly hanging out in the bars with all bosses got promoted. Was so pissed off! Kept asking the God all the time how does this happened. Quit the job (it was more emotional, rather than rational decision back then). But three years later, I am so better off financially. I was able to travel the world with my kids. Now I am thanking the God every day that I did not got promoted back then. Have I got promoted, I would probably be still there in the same office with the same boring job.
I am truly believe that God does answer our prayers and he knows what is the best for us. Just be patient, and you will see that things are happen for reason. Good luck!
Anonymous wrote:I find it disconcerting that no one here mentioned that unless you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, your prayers probably aren't being heard. God answers those who have a relationship with His son, and if we ask things in His name, according to His will, then He hears and answers us, as a loving Father to His children. If we've rejected His son, we are still God's enemies. Now, God is kind and merciful, and He does many things to get our attention so that we will repent of our sins and turn to Him. After that, His work in our life is to bring us into even closer relationship with Him and to help us live a holy life and bring others to Christ. To the OP, there is some good advice on here about perhaps the LORD having a good purpose for the events you're describing, and you don't say whether you're a believer in Christ. If not, turn to Him, confess your sins and put your trust in Christ for His forgiveness, and you will have a relationship with God such as you cannot imagine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sky daddy? hinky? None of this is disagreement, it's straightforward abuse.
We're grownups so we're not going to start "subtle micro aggressions of believer phobia" threads. But we can privately think that you guys have issues with anger and respect.
"Our father who art in heaven" = sky daddy -- not flattering, but not abuse. It's an informal way of saying the same thing and it's accurate to say that a lot of people pray to "our Father."
"Hinky" means unreliable and suspicious, which seems to fit the basic premise of this thread -- wondering why sometimes prayer doesn't work, with people offering various opinions that don't seem to come from any firm philosophical or evidentiary base.
What BS. Do you even believe this rubbish?
rubbish? Now there's abuse!
Nah, if it's factual then it's not abuse.
This is factual: sky daddy = our father who art in heaven and hinky =unreliable.
This is sarcasm: "Nah, if it's factual then it's not abuse."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sky daddy? hinky? None of this is disagreement, it's straightforward abuse.
We're grownups so we're not going to start "subtle micro aggressions of believer phobia" threads. But we can privately think that you guys have issues with anger and respect.
"Our father who art in heaven" = sky daddy -- not flattering, but not abuse. It's an informal way of saying the same thing and it's accurate to say that a lot of people pray to "our Father."
"Hinky" means unreliable and suspicious, which seems to fit the basic premise of this thread -- wondering why sometimes prayer doesn't work, with people offering various opinions that don't seem to come from any firm philosophical or evidentiary base.
What BS. Do you even believe this rubbish?
rubbish? Now there's abuse!
Nah, if it's factual then it's not abuse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sky daddy? hinky? None of this is disagreement, it's straightforward abuse.
We're grownups so we're not going to start "subtle micro aggressions of believer phobia" threads. But we can privately think that you guys have issues with anger and respect.
"Our father who art in heaven" = sky daddy -- not flattering, but not abuse. It's an informal way of saying the same thing and it's accurate to say that a lot of people pray to "our Father."
"Hinky" means unreliable and suspicious, which seems to fit the basic premise of this thread -- wondering why sometimes prayer doesn't work, with people offering various opinions that don't seem to come from any firm philosophical or evidentiary base.
What BS. Do you even believe this rubbish?
rubbish? Now there's abuse!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can this be a serious question? Don't you think murder and terrorism victims pray as they are killed? Don't you think starving and abused children pray for any kind of help? Do you really think those prayers aren't answered because a violent, senseless, painful end is a better "way" for those victims? This is why I could never be religious. How do you square you belief that god should help you out with the mundane business of your life while others suffer incredibly with no out?
Not really, but I think often believers just aren't thinking about the sorts of things you raise, or are thinking that God works in mysterious ways and might just answer their prayers instead of someone else's. Plus many people are taught to pray as children, by adults that they trust and depend on, so it becomes ingrained and is not treated with the same kind of logic that they use in other situations.
As fewer people are raising their children with religion, there should be fewer of these kinds of questions about prayer in the future.
I don't think that will happen any time soon.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can this be a serious question? Don't you think murder and terrorism victims pray as they are killed? Don't you think starving and abused children pray for any kind of help? Do you really think those prayers aren't answered because a violent, senseless, painful end is a better "way" for those victims? This is why I could never be religious. How do you square you belief that god should help you out with the mundane business of your life while others suffer incredibly with no out?
Not really, but I think often believers just aren't thinking about the sorts of things you raise, or are thinking that God works in mysterious ways and might just answer their prayers instead of someone else's. Plus many people are taught to pray as children, by adults that they trust and depend on, so it becomes ingrained and is not treated with the same kind of logic that they use in other situations.
As fewer people are raising their children with religion, there should be fewer of these kinds of questions about prayer in the future.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sky daddy? hinky? None of this is disagreement, it's straightforward abuse.
We're grownups so we're not going to start "subtle micro aggressions of believer phobia" threads. But we can privately think that you guys have issues with anger and respect.
"Our father who art in heaven" = sky daddy -- not flattering, but not abuse. It's an informal way of saying the same thing and it's accurate to say that a lot of people pray to "our Father."
"Hinky" means unreliable and suspicious, which seems to fit the basic premise of this thread -- wondering why sometimes prayer doesn't work, with people offering various opinions that don't seem to come from any firm philosophical or evidentiary base.
What BS. Do you even believe this rubbish?