Anonymous
08/23/2014 02:35
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?
I think you've hit upon a real issue here.
There is a fundamental difference between a charter school, a private school, and a neighborhood school. You attend a neighborhood school as a matter of right, you don't apply. At an application school, the leaders of the school can tailor the school atmosphere to attract the kind of student they want to apply. At a neighborhood school the school leaders should be tailoring the school to the people who live in the neighborhood.
Hardy has a difficult legacy because at one time it was run essentially as a magnet school, students had to apply. The uniforms are a vestige of that legacy. They need to go.
I don't think Hardy is the only neighborhood school that requires uniforms. Let's not get sidelined.
No, the pp makes a good point. The neighborhood surrounding Hardy is comprised of parents and potential parents who I feel certain would eschew the inner city public school uniform. The message of the inner city school uniform is a turn off.
A turn off, but not an absolute barrier. So many glover park and palisades parents wind up applying to uniform-positive Latin and basis.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 23:59
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
You can still get a tailor in Hong Kong to tailor khaki suits for the kid. Extra props for an ascot/ruffled blouse. It would look ridiculous, in a refined way, but no more ridiculous than a uniform requirement for a neighborhood public school in Ward 3 D.C. I'd insist on Jimmy Choos or Gucci shoes, too.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 23:14
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do the schools provide the uniforms or do families have to pay for them? What if you can't afford uniforms?
uniforms are cheaper than buying regular clothes
Not unless the kids wear uniforms outside of school. Most kids would also need regular clothes.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 23:09
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Do the schools provide the uniforms or do families have to pay for them? What if you can't afford uniforms?
uniforms are cheaper than buying regular clothes
Anonymous
08/22/2014 23:02
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?
Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?
The poor dears! They will be forced to wear polo shirts and cacky pants. My heart reels with the injustice.
I hope you wouldn't be offended if we cackled at the cacky pants.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:57
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Do the schools provide the uniforms or do families have to pay for them? What if you can't afford uniforms?
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:54
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?
Do any public schools in Montgomery County have uniforms?
MoCo doesn't have them but some schools in PG require
uniforms.
Interesting...
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:53
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?
I think you've hit upon a real issue here.
There is a fundamental difference between a charter school, a private school, and a neighborhood school. You attend a neighborhood school as a matter of right, you don't apply. At an application school, the leaders of the school can tailor the school atmosphere to attract the kind of student they want to apply. At a neighborhood school the school leaders should be tailoring the school to the people who live in the neighborhood.
Hardy has a difficult legacy because at one time it was run essentially as a magnet school, students had to apply. The uniforms are a vestige of that legacy. They need to go.
I don't think Hardy is the only neighborhood school that requires uniforms. Let's not get sidelined.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:51
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?
I think you've hit upon a real issue here.
There is a fundamental difference between a charter school, a private school, and a neighborhood school. You attend a neighborhood school as a matter of right, you don't apply. At an application school, the leaders of the school can tailor the school atmosphere to attract the kind of student they want to apply. At a neighborhood school the school leaders should be tailoring the school to the people who live in the neighborhood.
Hardy has a difficult legacy because at one time it was run essentially as a magnet school, students had to apply. The uniforms are a vestige of that legacy. They need to go.
Exactly.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:40
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:At Latin, it was definitely an attempt to instill discipline. It bugs me that Hardy parents give years ago got to decide what my kid wears to a PUBLIC school. Ridiculous! What if parents refuse to put their kids in uniforms?
I think you've hit upon a real issue here.
There is a fundamental difference between a charter school, a private school, and a neighborhood school. You attend a neighborhood school as a matter of right, you don't apply. At an application school, the leaders of the school can tailor the school atmosphere to attract the kind of student they want to apply. At a neighborhood school the school leaders should be tailoring the school to the people who live in the neighborhood.
Hardy has a difficult legacy because at one time it was run essentially as a magnet school, students had to apply. The uniforms are a vestige of that legacy. They need to go.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:36
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?
Do any public schools in Montgomery County have uniforms?
MoCo doesn't have them but some schools in PG require
uniforms.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:33
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
St. Albans doesn't have uniforms, it has a dress code.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:33
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's right, we Hardy parents voted for uniforms just to stick it to future parents. It was a plot and how well it's worked. C'mon, deep breaths, everybody, deep breaths.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?
Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?
A plot is a little far-fetched, but didn't Chancellor Rhee try to make changes to Hardy a few years ago to make it more attractive to IB families? If I remember correctly, the existing Hardy community was definitely not amused by the concept of change.
"not amused" has to be the understatement of the year!
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:30
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's right, we Hardy parents voted for uniforms just to stick it to future parents. It was a plot and how well it's worked. C'mon, deep breaths, everybody, deep breaths.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?
Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?
A plot is a little far-fetched, but didn't Chancellor Rhee try to make changes to Hardy a few years ago to make it more attractive to IB families? If I remember correctly, the existing Hardy community was definitely not amused by the concept of change.
yeah, behind the backs of current families and against the principal -- let's not get into that again - another of Rhee's debacles. Hopefullly we're ready to recover from it.
Anonymous
08/22/2014 22:30
Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if Hardy had uniforms that included plaid skirts and blue blazers, would we be having this conversation?
Yes we would . Why do kids at one public school have to wear uniforms??? Eaton kids will go from feeding into a non-uniform school to a uniform school. Why the difference?
The poor dears! They will be forced to wear polo shirts and cacky pants. My heart reels with the injustice.