[/Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.
Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.
Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way,), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.
PS Women can be professors, too.
99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.
You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.
Oh, the ignorance on here is stifling.
First, medical students are REQUIRED to get several recommendations from professors before and during medical school, which demolishes your point entirely.
Second and most important, the disrespect shown on here towards those in education is exactly why the US is not ranked higher in academic achievement.
No, professors in this country are forced to bend over backwards to cater to students and their parents. The university administration forces them to never give a bad grade or critique their students. Their careers are dependent on student ratings, which is veritable folly, since student reviews are higher if their grades are higher.
I have taught at the college level here and I have been a student in European institutions. Coming from abroad, I was warned specifically that I could not grade the same way I was used to and that the university could be sued if I didn't sugar-coat everything. The level of academic rigor is much, much higher, in Europe and elsewhere, and the professors don't hesitate to tell you exactly what's wrong with your work at the earliest opportunity! Here the molly-coddling and fear of being sued is through the roof, and with growing global competition this generation of students will not survive if they don't learn to take direction and criticism.
[b]Yada Yama yada.... You are a professor so you don't really understand how the real working world works.
College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
I have no problem with parents making sure that the college and professors are providing their child with a high-quality education, especially since they are paying for it, in many cases! You wouldn't say the same about a shareholder checking in on a business that they've invested in, would you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.
Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.
Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way,), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.
PS Women can be professors, too.
99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.
You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.
Oh, the ignorance on here is stifling.
First, medical students are REQUIRED to get several recommendations from professors before and during medical school, which demolishes your point entirely.
Second and most important, the disrespect shown on here towards those in education is exactly why the US is not ranked higher in academic achievement.
No, professors in this country are forced to bend over backwards to cater to students and their parents. The university administration forces them to never give a bad grade or critique their students. Their careers are dependent on student ratings, which is veritable folly, since student reviews are higher if their grades are higher.
I have taught at the college level here and I have been a student in European institutions. Coming from abroad, I was warned specifically that I could not grade the same way I was used to and that the university could be sued if I didn't sugar-coat everything. The level of academic rigor is much, much higher, in Europe and elsewhere, and the professors don't hesitate to tell you exactly what's wrong with your work at the earliest opportunity! Here the molly-coddling and fear of being sued is through the roof, and with growing global competition this generation of students will not survive if they don't learn to take direction and criticism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.
Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.
Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way,), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.
PS Women can be professors, too.
99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.
You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"My son will be in X dorm. Who cleans the bathrooms? It has been a heated debate in our house about whether or not to bring cleaning supplies!"
I wonder if Snowflake even knows how to clean a bathroom.
I spent the second week of college teaching other kids how to operate washing machines and dryers. I had been responsible for my own laundry since I was 11, and I was shocked that a parent would send their kid to college without teaching them such a basic skill. I wondered how someone could get to be 18 and not know this.
Maybe because other families are different from yours? Sure, yours may be better. But it's different.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"My son will be in X dorm. Who cleans the bathrooms? It has been a heated debate in our house about whether or not to bring cleaning supplies!"
I wonder if Snowflake even knows how to clean a bathroom.
I spent the second week of college teaching other kids how to operate washing machines and dryers. I had been responsible for my own laundry since I was 11, and I was shocked that a parent would send their kid to college without teaching them such a basic skill. I wondered how someone could get to be 18 and not know this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.
Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.
Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way,), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.
PS Women can be professors, too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.
Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.
Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Plus "asking questions on behalf of their kid?" If the kid can't ask himself, he's not ready for college.