Anonymous
Post 11/26/2015 22:09     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
New Haven CT is a challenge. I used to think that the Yale campus and courtyards were safer, unless you worry about being spat upon.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2015 01:33     Subject: Re:Unsafe college campuses
I doubt it's your son's friends, it's probably your son.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2015 01:32     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:Is there such a thing as "safe" drinking for college kids? I don't think so. Neither is there "safe" sex, unfortunately.


I think there is safe drinking for college students. It's called drinking in moderation. My friends and I didn't get stumbling, vomiting drunk every time we drank; there were plenty of nights when we stayed in and had drinks and watched a movie or had some friends over. It's much easier to learn your limits when you're not in a party environment.

Why isn't there safe sex? If both people consent and use protection, then what is the issue, especially when the students are in their early 20's? Or are you saying there is no safe sex after drinking?




Anonymous
Post 11/26/2015 00:50     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Is there such a thing as "safe" drinking for college kids? I don't think so. Neither is there "safe" sex, unfortunately.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 14:07     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:I went to an inner-city university (with a pretty wealthy/homogenous student body) on the edges of a neighborhood that had a lot of crime (and now, 20+ years later, is rapidly gentrifying, which makes me LOL remembering how it used to be). I actually think it's safer being in that kind of environment because it's drummed into you the risks of walking alone, not being aware of surroundings, etc. I know safety is emphasized at all colleges, but at my school it was truly a matter of life and death. You think of bucolic campus settings like UVA and it just isn't as obvious that there's crime in every corner.

It reminds me of people who buy houses on a cul de sac who say it's safer for their kids than being on a busy street. But you know what? If you live on a busy street you learn pretty quickly that you don't play in traffic, that you can't assume that a car is going to stop if your ball goes in the road, etc.


The perps are not homogeneous. At urban schools in rough neighborhoods (e.g., USC, PENN, CHICAGO) , the students are targeted by the local thugs seeking to steal or car jack, but that can result in death to those who resist (as was the case at USC this summer and in 2012). There aren't as many of these types of thugs at the "bucolic campus settings" of schools like UVA or SLACs, but one criminal can stay on prowl for a while (as might be the case at UVA) because the police force isn't as effective/diligent. For some reason there are more reports of student on student crime at SLACs and non-urban schools. I doubt it is just a fear/reluctance to report, but I can't explain why such campuses draw predators.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2014 11:49     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
I went to an inner-city university (with a pretty wealthy/homogenous student body) on the edges of a neighborhood that had a lot of crime (and now, 20+ years later, is rapidly gentrifying, which makes me LOL remembering how it used to be). I actually think it's safer being in that kind of environment because it's drummed into you the risks of walking alone, not being aware of surroundings, etc. I know safety is emphasized at all colleges, but at my school it was truly a matter of life and death. You think of bucolic campus settings like UVA and it just isn't as obvious that there's crime in every corner.

It reminds me of people who buy houses on a cul de sac who say it's safer for their kids than being on a busy street. But you know what? If you live on a busy street you learn pretty quickly that you don't play in traffic, that you can't assume that a car is going to stop if your ball goes in the road, etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2014 16:02     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"All these rapes?" How many are we talking about? More than society in general?


Yes, apparently I in 5 female college students are raped.

http://m.thenation.com/article/180114-why-campus-rape-crisis-confounds-colleges

Many more articles and studies....


Here is one woman's take: Camille Paglia: The modern campus cannot comprehend evil: http://ti.me/1mHwj5j


She's a provocateur by nature, but this is a spot-on analysis IMO.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2014 15:46     Subject: Re:Unsafe college campuses
College campuses are unsafe because college students are drunk and put themselves in danger. A drunk students is more likely to be raped, killed, get in a fight, fall, die of alcohol poisoning, and many other horrible things. A sober student is probably 99% safer than a drunk one.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2014 15:33     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"All these rapes?" How many are we talking about? More than society in general?


Yes, apparently I in 5 female college students are raped.

http://m.thenation.com/article/180114-why-campus-rape-crisis-confounds-colleges

Many more articles and studies....


Here is one woman's take: Camille Paglia: The modern campus cannot comprehend evil: http://ti.me/1mHwj5j
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 08:36     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Sorry, I'm not buying that the crime stats are solely (or even primarily) the result of differences in the willingness of women to report rape. While there may be some of that, there are clear differences in "culture" among schools. Most college age kids are followers, not leaders. Put a girl in an environment where "everyone" is promiscuous and the girl is far more likely to succumb to the peer pressure that a girl in an environment where it is acceptable to say no. Someone fragile enough to succumb to peer pressure is also less likely to take responsibility for her/his actions/choices. While the crime stats in the "most dangerous campus" ranking were surprising at first glance, they make sense the more i think about them and based on what I know about SLAC culture.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2014 23:34     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
(Or any school that has a socially conservative, Christian atmosphere)

Probably not too many rape accusations at Oral Roberts or Liberty U, either.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2014 23:32     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is an eye-opening ranking of the 100 Most Dangerous Colleges in the US based on statistical analysis of official government crime data for 6,696 colleges and universities in America. This data has been obtained from the US Department of Education, and outlines various alleged acts of crime that occurred both on-campus and off-campus during 2010 - 2012

http://www.american-school-search.com/colleges/dangerous

It is surprising to me to see so many SLACs at or near the top of the list. Amherst? Reed? Grinnell? Williams? Trinity? Bowdoin?


There are no Catholic schools listed among the Top 50 Most Dangerous Colleges despite the fact that many Catholic universities are located in urban areas that have significant crime issues in the near by neighborhoods. Not sure I have an explanation for why Catholic schools are safer, especially since other schools with strong religious affiliation are in the Top 50 Most Dangerous Colleges.


Because most "rapes" involve cases where a couple had drunken sex and the male was accused of rape. I suspect that many women at catholic schools are afraid that they will get in trouble for admitting to drunken pre-marital sex, which is the context for most rape accusations.


This is a funny one. I'm guessing you haven't been to a Catholic school anytime lately. I attended one many years ago and there was plenty of drinking and sex occurring. I can't say what may be the reason for the safer campuses, but it's not they are all praying instead of partying.



You missed the second part of that post. Women are probably more afraid to come forward at a Catholic school.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2014 23:27     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is an eye-opening ranking of the 100 Most Dangerous Colleges in the US based on statistical analysis of official government crime data for 6,696 colleges and universities in America. This data has been obtained from the US Department of Education, and outlines various alleged acts of crime that occurred both on-campus and off-campus during 2010 - 2012

http://www.american-school-search.com/colleges/dangerous

It is surprising to me to see so many SLACs at or near the top of the list. Amherst? Reed? Grinnell? Williams? Trinity? Bowdoin?


There are no Catholic schools listed among the Top 50 Most Dangerous Colleges despite the fact that many Catholic universities are located in urban areas that have significant crime issues in the near by neighborhoods. Not sure I have an explanation for why Catholic schools are safer, especially since other schools with strong religious affiliation are in the Top 50 Most Dangerous Colleges.


Because most "rapes" involve cases where a couple had drunken sex and the male was accused of rape. I suspect that many women at catholic schools are afraid that they will get in trouble for admitting to drunken pre-marital sex, which is the context for most rape accusations.


This is a funny one. I'm guessing you haven't been to a Catholic school anytime lately. I attended one many years ago and there was plenty of drinking and sex occurring. I can't say what may be the reason for the safer campuses, but it's not they are all praying instead of partying.

Anonymous
Post 08/11/2014 23:22     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Anonymous wrote:PP - you are a nut case. Look up "straw man" and learn about your adversary. Then try to understand why you are projecting your insecurities.


I'm a nut case and attempting a straw man's argument because I'm calling you out for your outdated thinking? Nice try, but it's a classic tactic - try to end the argument by accusing someone of a "straw man's argument". I've seen it many times on DCUM. Not sure if it's only you, but it's a pretty pathetic attempt to end something because you have nothing left to say…And, I'm not entirely sure what insecurities I may be projecting. I think you've proven yourself to be the nut case on this one.

Bottom line - we strenuously disagree on what the term rape truly means. I believe in the updated version of what the term means, not to mention the legal one in most states. You, not the other hand, do not believe that "date rape" is real. Is it because you only believe that rape is something that happens in a dark ally by a stranger? I most certainly hope no woman in your family needs you in a time of need.

Anonymous
Post 08/11/2014 10:52     Subject: Unsafe college campuses
Families Advocating for Campus Equality (FACE) will work to “promote and insure fairness; and seek justice for all those caught up in the timely and provocative issue of sexual misconduct on college campuses.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/384780/mothers-due-process-caroline-kitchens