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Anonymous wrote:God could bend the laws of nature but why would he?

I consider myself a Christian because of my "relationship" with Christ. I don't think Christ literally rose from the dead. I think he rose from the dead in our thoughts and in the religion that perpetuates his teaching.

What would you call someone who is a follower of the teachings of Jesus but doesn't believe he literally rose from the dead?

It's all bullshit, imo, and I'm a product of Catholic schools.

But here are my thoughts on the brainwashing.

If you are a Christian, you MUST believe Jesus actually died and rose again.

Why, you ask?

b/c in order to save our souls he HAD to die and descend into hell to free the trapped souls first - equal opportunity Jesus who set a precedence for the rest of the "death cases"

4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell:

THAT'S the key. That move allowed the trapped souls to be judged.

7. From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:

TRUE Christians must embrace these beliefs. You are not a true Christian by definition, PP. You're more like a Jew - who believed Jesus was a great man, an inspirational prophet - but no more divine than Jerry Seinfeld.

NP here... very interesting... I grew up Presbyterian. I learned that he "descended into hell" because at that moment, he took upon the sins of the world which separated him from God. That is the definition of hell - to be in a place without the presence of God or the Holy Spirit.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I don't mean to be vulgar, but isn't it ALL crazy shit? Like, why is creationism any more impossible than a Virgin birth, or performing miracles, or rising from the dead? I think you have to believe the events, but not the exact specifics, because maybe people back then just didn't have the terminology to explain concepts that science has explained to us. A "day" to God perhaps was billions of years.

Remember that the world was once flat. What's fact today is fiction tomorrow.

When you don't have the tools to explain a phenomena, you rely on Zeus to throw those thunderbolts!

Anonymous wrote:God could bend the laws of nature but why would he?

I consider myself a Christian because of my "relationship" with Christ. I don't think Christ literally rose from the dead. I think he rose from the dead in our thoughts and in the religion that perpetuates his teaching.

What would you call someone who is a follower of the teachings of Jesus but doesn't believe he literally rose from the dead?

It's all bullshit, imo, and I'm a product of Catholic schools.

But here are my thoughts on the brainwashing.

If you are a Christian, you MUST believe Jesus actually died and rose again.

Why, you ask?

b/c in order to save our souls he HAD to die and descend into hell to free the trapped souls first - equal opportunity Jesus who set a precedence for the rest of the "death cases"

4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell:

THAT'S the key. That move allowed the trapped souls to be judged.

7. From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:

TRUE Christians must embrace these beliefs. You are not a true Christian by definition, PP. You're more like a Jew - who believed Jesus was a great man, an inspirational prophet - but no more divine than Jerry Seinfeld.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I think of the miracles as the virgin birth, the resurrection and the ascension -in other words, only the stuff having to do with Jesus

Ah ok gotcha- wish there were clearer guidelines which ones I could question and which I had to accept unconditionally.

Yeah - you'd think with eternal life riding on it, God would have made things clearer to the people he sent his only son to die for.

Why only one son? Being god, he could have had as many as he wanted, with multiple virgins, or just one regular wife.

All part of his mysterious plan, I suppose

We are all children of God. Didn't anyone ever tell you that?

Tell that to the Jews and Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:If you do not believe that Jesus rose from the dead, there is no reason for Christianity.

Or that he will come again. These are the main differences from Judiasm.

In Islam, Jesus will return to earth as the messiah. But in Islam, Jesus is not considered divine - but a human prophet (like Adam, Moses, Noah, etc)

Ok

So how do you return to the earth (considering you once alive around 5 BC) and NOT be considered divine?

makes no fucking sense

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I think of the miracles as the virgin birth, the resurrection and the ascension -in other words, only the stuff having to do with Jesus

Ah ok gotcha- wish there were clearer guidelines which ones I could question and which I had to accept unconditionally.

Yeah - you'd think with eternal life riding on it, God would have made things clearer to the people he sent his only son to die for.

Why only one son? Being god, he could have had as many as he wanted, with multiple virgins, or just one regular wife.

All part of his mysterious plan, I suppose

We are all children of God. Didn't anyone ever tell you that?

Non sequitur

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I think of the miracles as the virgin birth, the resurrection and the ascension -in other words, only the stuff having to do with Jesus

Ah ok gotcha- wish there were clearer guidelines which ones I could question and which I had to accept unconditionally.

Yeah - you'd think with eternal life riding on it, God would have made things clearer to the people he sent his only son to die for.

Why only one son? Being god, he could have had as many as he wanted, with multiple virgins, or just one regular wife.

All part of his mysterious plan, I suppose

We are all children of God. Didn't anyone ever tell you that?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I think of the miracles as the virgin birth, the resurrection and the ascension -in other words, only the stuff having to do with Jesus

Ah ok gotcha- wish there were clearer guidelines which ones I could question and which I had to accept unconditionally.

Yeah - you'd think with eternal life riding on it, God would have made things clearer to the people he sent his only son to die for.

Why only one son? Being god, he could have had as many as he wanted, with multiple virgins, or just one regular wife.

All part of his mysterious plan, I suppose

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I think of the miracles as the virgin birth, the resurrection and the ascension -in other words, only the stuff having to do with Jesus

Ah ok gotcha- wish there were clearer guidelines which ones I could question and which I had to accept unconditionally.

Yeah - you'd think with eternal life riding on it, God would have made things clearer to the people he sent his only son to die for.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really necessary to believe every-single-thing in the Bible in order to call yourself a Christian? Does it say that in the Bible somewhere, or is that a popular interpretation?

Cause there's some crazy shit in the Bible (creationism anyone?). If that's not a considered a miracle, I don't know what is! Are there some miracles we're allowed to doubt, and others not? In order to identify as a Christian that is.

I think of the miracles as the virgin birth, the resurrection and the ascension -in other words, only the stuff having to do with Jesus

Ah ok gotcha- wish there were clearer guidelines which ones I could question and which I had to accept unconditionally.

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Anonymous wrote:Science was created.

by God? If so, why did he wait so long to teach His people how to use it? and why didn't he mention this great coming blessing in the bible, the way he prophesized so many other things?

Another of God's mysteries.

not by god? Then who needs god?

By an intelligence . We have no idea but all historical evidence points to the God of Abraham , Moses and the Father of Christ.

Did you learn this in church?