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Anonymous wrote:The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

A teacher of 35 years said to a girl in front of a class of 30+ students, "How can your mother let you out of the house looking like that. You look like a hooker."

Just one of her more famous quotes this year.

I bet the teacher was right, though!

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I think it all the time. I just don't say it because 9 times out of 10, mom comes sashaying in dressed like a "working girl" herself.

Honestly, this attitude is so out of date, I'm boggled. It doesn't not matter one bit what girls wear to school. Who cares if a girl comes to school dressed like a hooker? Do you care because you think it is disturbing for the boys? Then you are prioritizing the education and needs of boys over girls. It is not a girl's job in our society to present herself in a way that makes boys/men comfortable. Boys are responsible for maintaining their own focus and keeping their hands and eyes to themselves. My DD attends a high FARMS school and dress code is a MAJOR impediment to the way girls (and boys) behave in school. Young girls waste a tremendous amount of time and psychic energy thinking about whether what they are going to wear passes dress code. If it's even a close call, they then spend tremendous time at school getting hassled by various teachers. And, young men are sent the message that the way a woman dresses justifies treating her like crap. And teachers are wasting valuable time worrying about dress code instead of teaching. And, teachers like the one you mention above are perpetuating dangerous (yes, dangerous, considering date rape stats) stereotypes. All this when the reading MSA "Basic" fail rates are astonishingly high. I don't care if the girls come to school NAKED, just teach them to read and freakng forget about what everyone is wearing.

Geez. What century do you all live in?

Your whole post is garbage. Girls do not have the privilege to come to public school dressed so provocatively that they are a distraction


Sounds like you value girls' freedom to show some skin over the education of boys

New poster but YOUR post is the problematic one. It’s not girls’ responsibility. Whether boys pay attention is on them.

Yeah, this is an example of an overreaction. People are so upset about the idea that women for a long time had a lot of constraints on what they could wear that they've swung all the way to having no common sense.

If you send your girls to school looking like complete tramps, you're a bad parent and are actively harming the educational environment of other kids.

Couldn't we use your logic to say the teacher can call any student a whore that she wants? Whether the girls pay attention to the insult is on them!

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Anonymous wrote:They technically do - they run out the good teachers with poor administration and not treating them well and keep the crappy ones.

So very true.
Why are those 70 something year olds still playing their dirty games in the office of teacher recruitment?

So many talented teachers apply to MCPS who never receive any call back for an interview, while classrooms get assigned people with 'emergency certifiations", peope with minimal or no experience in teaching.

Sounds like corruption. Can’t the state investigate?

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Anonymous wrote:Short answer: No. It is very hard to fire a teacher.

Long answer: the problem is administration. Weast pushed out the good administrators and "recruited" a bunch of "Yes-men" who would do whatever WEAST wanted (and Weast was a total moron). So what you have right now is a bunch of weak, spineless "leaders" in MCPS who cannot run a school or student body, and just spend their time out of the building at meetings, "trainings", checking in with their principal mentors and being totally oblivious to what is actually going on in their schools.

I am a teacher and I hate it. I see the teachers around me who are terrible at their job and should be kicked out, but the paper trail has to be long (talking years) and almost always the union protects these idiots.

I say - no tenure, no union. Period. I don't think we go to a merit pay system, but I think we find better ways to evaluate teachers. Bottom line, ask any teacher or student in a school who the worst three teachers in the building are, and they will all have pretty much the same answer. It is sad.

Weast joined in ‘99, and was here through 2010. So was he responsible for Curr 2.0 and the discipline code?

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Anonymous wrote:The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

A teacher of 35 years said to a girl in front of a class of 30+ students, "How can your mother let you out of the house looking like that. You look like a hooker."

Just one of her more famous quotes this year.

I bet the teacher was right, though!

+1

I think it all the time. I just don't say it because 9 times out of 10, mom comes sashaying in dressed like a "working girl" herself.

Honestly, this attitude is so out of date, I'm boggled. It doesn't not matter one bit what girls wear to school. Who cares if a girl comes to school dressed like a hooker? Do you care because you think it is disturbing for the boys? Then you are prioritizing the education and needs of boys over girls. It is not a girl's job in our society to present herself in a way that makes boys/men comfortable. Boys are responsible for maintaining their own focus and keeping their hands and eyes to themselves. My DD attends a high FARMS school and dress code is a MAJOR impediment to the way girls (and boys) behave in school. Young girls waste a tremendous amount of time and psychic energy thinking about whether what they are going to wear passes dress code. If it's even a close call, they then spend tremendous time at school getting hassled by various teachers. And, young men are sent the message that the way a woman dresses justifies treating her like crap. And teachers are wasting valuable time worrying about dress code instead of teaching. And, teachers like the one you mention above are perpetuating dangerous (yes, dangerous, considering date rape stats) stereotypes. All this when the reading MSA "Basic" fail rates are astonishingly high. I don't care if the girls come to school NAKED, just teach them to read and freakng forget about what everyone is wearing.

Geez. What century do you all live in?

Your whole post is garbage. Girls do not have the privilege to come to public school dressed so provocatively that they are a distraction


Sounds like you value girls' freedom to show some skin over the education of boys

New poster but YOUR post is the problematic one. It’s not girls’ responsibility. Whether boys pay attention is on them.

Anonymous wrote:There is a dress code.

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Anonymous wrote:The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

A teacher of 35 years said to a girl in front of a class of 30+ students, "How can your mother let you out of the house looking like that. You look like a hooker."

Just one of her more famous quotes this year.

I bet the teacher was right, though!

+1

I think it all the time. I just don't say it because 9 times out of 10, mom comes sashaying in dressed like a "working girl" herself.

Honestly, this attitude is so out of date, I'm boggled. It doesn't not matter one bit what girls wear to school. Who cares if a girl comes to school dressed like a hooker? Do you care because you think it is disturbing for the boys? Then you are prioritizing the education and needs of boys over girls. It is not a girl's job in our society to present herself in a way that makes boys/men comfortable. Boys are responsible for maintaining their own focus and keeping their hands and eyes to themselves. My DD attends a high FARMS school and dress code is a MAJOR impediment to the way girls (and boys) behave in school. Young girls waste a tremendous amount of time and psychic energy thinking about whether what they are going to wear passes dress code. If it's even a close call, they then spend tremendous time at school getting hassled by various teachers. And, young men are sent the message that the way a woman dresses justifies treating her like crap. And teachers are wasting valuable time worrying about dress code instead of teaching. And, teachers like the one you mention above are perpetuating dangerous (yes, dangerous, considering date rape stats) stereotypes. All this when the reading MSA "Basic" fail rates are astonishingly high. I don't care if the girls come to school NAKED, just teach them to read and freakng forget about what everyone is wearing.

Geez. What century do you all live in?

Your whole post is garbage. Girls do not have the privilege to come to public school dressed so provocatively that they are a distraction


Sounds like you value girls' freedom to show some skin over the education of boys

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The simple answer is that it is very difficult to get rid of a tenured teacher unless some misbehavior is suspected. I think a lot has to do with the teacher's relationship with the principal. We have a lousy teacher in our ES but she survives, and there have been complaints about her teaching levied for about 8 years. You'd have to pay me lots to teach in MCPS, and frankly, I am unimpressed with 2.0 and the new grading.

A teacher of 35 years said to a girl in front of a class of 30+ students, "How can your mother let you out of the house looking like that. You look like a hooker."

Just one of her more famous quotes this year.

I bet the teacher was right, though!

+1

I think it all the time. I just don't say it because 9 times out of 10, mom comes sashaying in dressed like a "working girl" herself.

Honestly, this attitude is so out of date, I'm boggled. It doesn't not matter one bit what girls wear to school. Who cares if a girl comes to school dressed like a hooker? Do you care because you think it is disturbing for the boys? Then you are prioritizing the education and needs of boys over girls. It is not a girl's job in our society to present herself in a way that makes boys/men comfortable. Boys are responsible for maintaining their own focus and keeping their hands and eyes to themselves. My DD attends a high FARMS school and dress code is a MAJOR impediment to the way girls (and boys) behave in school. Young girls waste a tremendous amount of time and psychic energy thinking about whether what they are going to wear passes dress code. If it's even a close call, they then spend tremendous time at school getting hassled by various teachers. And, young men are sent the message that the way a woman dresses justifies treating her like crap. And teachers are wasting valuable time worrying about dress code instead of teaching. And, teachers like the one you mention above are perpetuating dangerous (yes, dangerous, considering date rape stats) stereotypes. All this when the reading MSA "Basic" fail rates are astonishingly high. I don't care if the girls come to school NAKED, just teach them to read and freakng forget about what everyone is wearing.

Geez. What century do you all live in?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They technically do - they run out the good teachers with poor administration and not treating them well and keep the crappy ones.

So very true.
Why are those 70 something year olds still playing their dirty games in the office of teacher recruitment?
So many talented teachers apply to MCPS who never receive any call back for an interview, while classrooms get assigned people with 'emergency certifiations", peope with minimal or no experience in teaching.

Anonymous wrote:Short answer: No. It is very hard to fire a teacher.

Long answer: the problem is administration. Weast pushed out the good administrators and "recruited" a bunch of "Yes-men" who would do whatever WEAST wanted (and Weast was a total moron). So what you have right now is a bunch of weak, spineless "leaders" in MCPS who cannot run a school or student body, and just spend their time out of the building at meetings, "trainings", checking in with their principal mentors and being totally oblivious to what is actually going on in their schools.

I am a teacher and I hate it. I see the teachers around me who are terrible at their job and should be kicked out, but the paper trail has to be long (talking years) and almost always the union protects these idiots.

I say - no tenure, no union. Period. I don't think we go to a merit pay system, but I think we find better ways to evaluate teachers. Bottom line, ask any teacher or student in a school who the worst three teachers in the building are, and they will all have pretty much the same answer. It is sad.

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Anonymous wrote:You never really get clear expectations because they lie to you and about you. Tenure is a thing of the past as they can fire for no reason at all. Then when they do have a reason such as a principal who sucks and whose negligence leads to broomstick rape....yeah somehow they are immune to anything and get to keep kushy jobs. Three cheers for mcps and MCEA hip hip HOORAPE!

FYI, administrators don’t belong to MCEA. They have their own union. Believe me, many MCEA members are outraged that the former Damascus principal was handed some made up job on Rockville Pike. She AND Smith have to go!