Anonymous
04/22/2014 14:07
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
"Yes, there are big crowds. Yes, sometimes those crowds are not well-behaved."
And why is that? For example, there are crowds at Walt Disney World every day of the year, but never (or rarely) incidents of these crowds being ill-behaved.
So let's discuss.
And why is that? For example, there are crowds at Walt Disney World every day of the year, but never (or rarely) incidents of these crowds being ill-behaved.
So let's discuss.
jsteele
04/22/2014 14:06
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All very valid points. I just wanted to alert fellow DCUMers about an important concern that was being censored in quite surprising ways. And I say surprising because I had not observed something similar in the couple of years I have been around. It is now clear to me that Jeff uses this community to drive his own personal agenda, so indeed it makes no sense for me to stay. Not a tragic loss, I know. I hope no one gets injured at the zoo next year, or ever.
Does this personal agenda involve breast feeding, taking toddlers to the beach, or having an affair at a conference in Montreal?
That's not my agenda. That's my "What I Did Last Summer" report.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 14:04
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:All very valid points. I just wanted to alert fellow DCUMers about an important concern that was being censored in quite surprising ways. And I say surprising because I had not observed something similar in the couple of years I have been around. It is now clear to me that Jeff uses this community to drive his own personal agenda, so indeed it makes no sense for me to stay. Not a tragic loss, I know. I hope no one gets injured at the zoo next year, or ever.
Does this personal agenda involve breast feeding, taking toddlers to the beach, or having an affair at a conference in Montreal?
jsteele
04/22/2014 14:02
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.
Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.
I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?
Jeff - this happens every year. The only time it makes the post is when someone is actually shot or stabbed severely enough to make local news. Those of us who live (or lived) anywhere near Woodley or Cleveland Park know to stay away from CT Ave the say after Easter.
Let's just be clear on what "this" is. "This" is not shootings or stabbings. Yes, there are big crowds. Yes, sometimes those crowds are not well-behaved. I wouldn't choose to go to the zoo that day because of the crowds. Shootings and stabbings, thankfully, are rare.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 14:02
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:+1. It's about being too damn l-a-z-y to start their own blog and would rather complain here. The moderator has a whole lot more patience than me. I would've shut this thread down eons ago with some shit about having blood on one's hands. Hmmm, maybe that's why I'm not the moderator.Anonymous wrote:Hahha I like when people make claims of "censorship" in the internet age. Nothing is to stop you from starting your own blog to write about an event, and you can even do it for free.
On top of that, the information isnt' even being covered up. It's on the front page of washingtonpost.com right now.
If you don't like DCUM's moderation, there is nothing to stop you from starting a blog or getting information on an event elsewhere. It's not like the old days where your only news source was printed newspapers, and there was a high barrier to entry to produce your own.
Yup- freedom of speech in an internet forum paid for and supported by a private entity is not a requirement. Its akin to screaming about a lack of privacy on a public street.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 14:01
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Hahha I like when people make claims of "censorship" in the internet age. Nothing is to stop you from starting your own blog to write about an event, and you can even do it for free.
On top of that, the information isnt' even being covered up. It's on the front page of washingtonpost.com right now.
If you don't like DCUM's moderation, there is nothing to stop you from starting a blog or getting information on an event elsewhere. It's not like the old days where your only news source was printed newspapers, and there was a high barrier to entry to produce your own.
All very valid points. I just wanted to alert fellow DCUMers about an important concern that was being censored in quite surprising ways. And I say surprising because I had not observed something similar in the couple of years I have been around. It is now clear to me that Jeff uses this community to drive his own personal agenda, so indeed it makes no sense for me to stay. Not a tragic loss, I know. I hope no one gets injured at the zoo next year, or ever.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:58
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.
Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.
I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?
Jeff - this happens every year. The only time it makes the post is when someone is actually shot or stabbed severely enough to make local news. Those of us who live (or lived) anywhere near Woodley or Cleveland Park know to stay away from CT Ave the say after Easter.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:58
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
The Starbucks post is not the gospel and final word on the issues. There have been numerous observations from other posters, pro and con, but you seem obsessed with this one individual.Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.
Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.
I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. Ok What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?
Do you understand the word "violence"? Because you seem to be using the classic straw man fallacy to drive a point that makes little sense. The Starbucks post makes it very clear there is violence and fear of violence basically every year around AA family day. Fact. Why are you so obsessed with trying to bury this information?
Starbucks post is not the definitive conclusion or solution to the any issues at the zoo or elsewhere.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:54
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
+1. It's about being too damn l-a-z-y to start their own blog and would rather complain here. The moderator has a whole lot more patience than me. I would've shut this thread down eons ago with some shit about having blood on one's hands. Hmmm, maybe that's why I'm not the moderator.Anonymous wrote:Hahha I like when people make claims of "censorship" in the internet age. Nothing is to stop you from starting your own blog to write about an event, and you can even do it for free.
On top of that, the information isnt' even being covered up. It's on the front page of washingtonpost.com right now.
If you don't like DCUM's moderation, there is nothing to stop you from starting a blog or getting information on an event elsewhere. It's not like the old days where your only news source was printed newspapers, and there was a high barrier to entry to produce your own.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:53
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.
Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.
I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. Ok What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?
Do you understand the word "violence"? Because you seem to be using the classic straw man fallacy to drive a point that makes little sense. The Starbucks post makes it very clear there is violence and fear of violence basically every year around AA family day. Fact. Why are you so obsessed with trying to bury this information?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:49
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Hahha I like when people make claims of "censorship" in the internet age. Nothing is to stop you from starting your own blog to write about an event, and you can even do it for free.
On top of that, the information isnt' even being covered up. It's on the front page of washingtonpost.com right now.
If you don't like DCUM's moderation, there is nothing to stop you from starting a blog or getting information on an event elsewhere. It's not like the old days where your only news source was printed newspapers, and there was a high barrier to entry to produce your own.
On top of that, the information isnt' even being covered up. It's on the front page of washingtonpost.com right now.
If you don't like DCUM's moderation, there is nothing to stop you from starting a blog or getting information on an event elsewhere. It's not like the old days where your only news source was printed newspapers, and there was a high barrier to entry to produce your own.
jsteele
04/22/2014 13:48
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.
Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.
I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:45
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
there was a stabbing last year.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:45
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Why would AA family day be the day after Easter?? It's not a holiday and most people have work. Are schools normally out?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 13:44
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.
Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.