[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Automatic admission to anyone with a Nova associates degree. Sounds real selective to me. [/quote]

Not the OP, but you do know UVA offers the same, right? Both have minimum GPAs you have to reach, but it's the same automatic admission program.[/quote]


This is correct. But it is not automatic. You must take certain courses at NoVA and reach a certain overall GPA plus get a certain grade in specified courses. It's a very good deal for a student set on UVA who can maintain the requisite grades.[/quote]

The NOVA agreement with George Mason has a required GPA which must be met; it is not automatic. Please see: https://www.nvcc.edu/depts/academic/transfer/GAA/GeorgeMasonUniversity-PU-GAA-2013-12.pdf[/quote]

lol "The minimum cumulative NOVA GPA required currently is 2.85 upon graduation effective spring 2014." So it's even LOWER than the 3.0 that it used to be!

To the PP who called VCU "renowned"... where are you from? Nobody calls VCU "renowned." [/quote]

Mason requires only a 2.85. [b]C-level grades transfer for full credit, [/b]which is unheard of elsewhere. Mason recalculates the GPA to count only the higher grade received in a repeated (such as, flunked) course. Complete joke.
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Incorrect. Requires a 2.85 minimum, which is basically straight Bs, with allowance for a B- or two. Plus this is on a 4.0 scale, not the exaggerated 5.0 and even 6.0 of high schools today. You can's compare high school grades to college grades.

Present a 2.85 or higher cumulative grade point average (CGPA) upon application to
Mason and upon VCCS graduation. Mason utilizes the CGPA as indicated on the
official VCCS transcript. Applicants are required to submit two official VCCS
transcripts. The first transcript must be received in the Office of Admissions no later than
March 10 for fall admission or October 10 for spring admission. The final transcript
reflecting the degree conferral date must be received by the Office of Admissions no later
than the last day of the first semester of enrollment.

5. Earn a minimum of 30 transferable credits (see #3 below) from a VCCS college with
grades of A, B or C in every course. These courses must be applicable to the A.A., A.S.
or A.A.& S. degree program. If a course is repeated, the higher g[/quote]

Wrong. The NVCC-Mason transfer agreement explicitly provides for C grades transferring with full credit, even in a major, and even for core requirements.
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But it still requires a MINIMUM of 2.85 which iS A B AVERAGE, allowing for just a few B-s, possibly all great A grads and one C. But you still must maintain that A/B average to hit the MINIMUM requirement of 2.83 GPA. And that is on a scale of 4.0.[/quote]

Good job, you can do math. But, the basic concept that seems to be going over your head is that Mason believes that community college students don't even need a 3.0 at community college to get into Mason. Which is not "selective" at all, which OP claimed originally - that Mason is "more selective than UMD and UVA." Wrong.[/quote]

OP's original claim is that his DAD said GMU was more selective - and OP seemed to doubt DAD .

What's your fuss? Did you ever attend college?

And you do realize the standards of selectivity are lower for transfer students at ALL schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Automatic admission to anyone with a Nova associates degree. Sounds real selective to me.

Not the OP, but you do know UVA offers the same, right? Both have minimum GPAs you have to reach, but it's the same automatic admission program.

This is correct. But it is not automatic. You must take certain courses at NoVA and reach a certain overall GPA plus get a certain grade in specified courses. It's a very good deal for a student set on UVA who can maintain the requisite grades.

The NOVA agreement with George Mason has a required GPA which must be met; it is not automatic. Please see: https://www.nvcc.edu/depts/academic/transfer/GAA/GeorgeMasonUniversity-PU-GAA-2013-12.pdf

lol "The minimum cumulative NOVA GPA required currently is 2.85 upon graduation effective spring 2014." So it's even LOWER than the 3.0 that it used to be!

To the PP who called VCU "renowned"... where are you from? Nobody calls VCU "renowned."

Mason requires only a 2.85. C-level grades transfer for full credit, which is unheard of elsewhere. Mason recalculates the GPA to count only the higher grade received in a repeated (such as, flunked) course. Complete joke.

Incorrect. Requires a 2.85 minimum, which is basically straight Bs, with allowance for a B- or two. Plus this is on a 4.0 scale, not the exaggerated 5.0 and even 6.0 of high schools today. You can's compare high school grades to college grades.

Present a 2.85 or higher cumulative grade point average (CGPA) upon application to
Mason and upon VCCS graduation. Mason utilizes the CGPA as indicated on the
official VCCS transcript. Applicants are required to submit two official VCCS
transcripts. The first transcript must be received in the Office of Admissions no later than
March 10 for fall admission or October 10 for spring admission. The final transcript
reflecting the degree conferral date must be received by the Office of Admissions no later
than the last day of the first semester of enrollment.

5. Earn a minimum of 30 transferable credits (see #3 below) from a VCCS college with
grades of A, B or C in every course. These courses must be applicable to the A.A., A.S.
or A.A.& S. degree program. If a course is repeated, the higher g

Wrong. The NVCC-Mason transfer agreement explicitly provides for C grades transferring with full credit, even in a major, and even for core requirements.

But it still requires a MINIMUM of 2.85 which iS A B AVERAGE, allowing for just a few B-s, possibly all great A grads and one C. But you still must maintain that A/B average to hit the MINIMUM requirement of 2.83 GPA. And that is on a scale of 4.0.

Good job, you can do math. But, the basic concept that seems to be going over your head is that Mason believes that community college students don't even need a 3.0 at community college to get into Mason. Which is not "selective" at all, which OP claimed originally - that Mason is "more selective than UMD and UVA." Wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Automatic admission to anyone with a Nova associates degree. Sounds real selective to me.

Not the OP, but you do know UVA offers the same, right? Both have minimum GPAs you have to reach, but it's the same automatic admission program.

This is correct. But it is not automatic. You must take certain courses at NoVA and reach a certain overall GPA plus get a certain grade in specified courses. It's a very good deal for a student set on UVA who can maintain the requisite grades.

The NOVA agreement with George Mason has a required GPA which must be met; it is not automatic. Please see: https://www.nvcc.edu/depts/academic/transfer/GAA/GeorgeMasonUniversity-PU-GAA-2013-12.pdf

lol "The minimum cumulative NOVA GPA required currently is 2.85 upon graduation effective spring 2014." So it's even LOWER than the 3.0 that it used to be!

To the PP who called VCU "renowned"... where are you from? Nobody calls VCU "renowned."

Mason requires only a 2.85. C-level grades transfer for full credit, which is unheard of elsewhere. Mason recalculates the GPA to count only the higher grade received in a repeated (such as, flunked) course. Complete joke.

Incorrect. Requires a 2.85 minimum, which is basically straight Bs, with allowance for a B- or two. Plus this is on a 4.0 scale, not the exaggerated 5.0 and even 6.0 of high schools today. You can's compare high school grades to college grades.

Present a 2.85 or higher cumulative grade point average (CGPA) upon application to
Mason and upon VCCS graduation. Mason utilizes the CGPA as indicated on the
official VCCS transcript. Applicants are required to submit two official VCCS
transcripts. The first transcript must be received in the Office of Admissions no later than
March 10 for fall admission or October 10 for spring admission. The final transcript
reflecting the degree conferral date must be received by the Office of Admissions no later
than the last day of the first semester of enrollment.

5. Earn a minimum of 30 transferable credits (see #3 below) from a VCCS college with
grades of A, B or C in every course. These courses must be applicable to the A.A., A.S.
or A.A.& S. degree program. If a course is repeated, the higher g

Wrong. The NVCC-Mason transfer agreement explicitly provides for C grades transferring with full credit, even in a major, and even for core requirements.

But it still requires a MINIMUM of 2.85 which iS A B AVERAGE, allowing for just a few B-s, possibly all great A grads and one C. But you still must maintain that A/B average to hit the MINIMUM requirement of 2.83 GPA. And that is on a scale of 4.0.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is delightful and hysterical. Let's start out the next level --

"GMU is actually more selective than Yale and most of the GMU faculty turned down appointments at Oxford. My DC who had a weekend beer-a-thon habit by 17 and has a high school B-minus average in the general program is going to GMU because it's so much more rigorous than Chicago. Columbia University is selling all its off-campus real estate in Manhattan so that it can fund ditching its curriculum and adopting the "Mason Core." The real "next half-century" crisis at Harvard is, how can they keep up with GMU? Cravath's partners who SAY they went to UVA actually went to Mason but they're trying to keep all of the Mason excellence to themselves. Discuss, incorporating personal anecdotes."

Why such bitterness? Why the need to bash the VA universities. For $9500 a year they do an outstanding job.

I agree. The Mason detractor is a complete ignoramus, as much as he would like to come across as a sophisticate. Pretty pathetic.

Are you so foolish as to think all the posts are from one person? I never posted anything in my life and have no axe to grind with George Mason. It serves its mission well. But to boost it beyond recognition does you and your school a disservice. Not to mention add credence to the haters.

Absolutely, the posts can be from one person posting from different computers, smart phones, etc, that have different IP addresses. Even the moderator has commented on this.

Anonymous wrote:I will not pay for an Ivy league education for my children because it turns out people with the attitudes I see all over the DCUM board. I don't want my kids to be this narrow-minded.

Awww...well I'm sure all the ivies are mad now! I'm sure they're all pissed at the posters on this board!

See what you done done???!! You've denied the ivies the opportunity to reject PP's kids!

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Anonymous wrote:Automatic admission to anyone with a Nova associates degree. Sounds real selective to me.

Not the OP, but you do know UVA offers the same, right? Both have minimum GPAs you have to reach, but it's the same automatic admission program.

This is correct. But it is not automatic. You must take certain courses at NoVA and reach a certain overall GPA plus get a certain grade in specified courses. It's a very good deal for a student set on UVA who can maintain the requisite grades.

The NOVA agreement with George Mason has a required GPA which must be met; it is not automatic. Please see: https://www.nvcc.edu/depts/academic/transfer/GAA/GeorgeMasonUniversity-PU-GAA-2013-12.pdf

lol "The minimum cumulative NOVA GPA required currently is 2.85 upon graduation effective spring 2014." So it's even LOWER than the 3.0 that it used to be!

To the PP who called VCU "renowned"... where are you from? Nobody calls VCU "renowned."

Mason requires only a 2.85. C-level grades transfer for full credit, which is unheard of elsewhere. Mason recalculates the GPA to count only the higher grade received in a repeated (such as, flunked) course. Complete joke.

Incorrect. Requires a 2.85 minimum, which is basically straight Bs, with allowance for a B- or two. Plus this is on a 4.0 scale, not the exaggerated 5.0 and even 6.0 of high schools today. You can's compare high school grades to college grades.

Present a 2.85 or higher cumulative grade point average (CGPA) upon application to
Mason and upon VCCS graduation. Mason utilizes the CGPA as indicated on the
official VCCS transcript. Applicants are required to submit two official VCCS
transcripts. The first transcript must be received in the Office of Admissions no later than
March 10 for fall admission or October 10 for spring admission. The final transcript
reflecting the degree conferral date must be received by the Office of Admissions no later
than the last day of the first semester of enrollment.

5. Earn a minimum of 30 transferable credits (see #3 below) from a VCCS college with
grades of A, B or C in every course. These courses must be applicable to the A.A., A.S.
or A.A.& S. degree program. If a course is repeated, the higher g

Wrong. The NVCC-Mason transfer agreement explicitly provides for C grades transferring with full credit, even in a major, and even for core requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:Automatic admission to anyone with a Nova associates degree. Sounds real selective to me.

Not the OP, but you do know UVA offers the same, right? Both have minimum GPAs you have to reach, but it's the same automatic admission program.

This is correct. But it is not automatic. You must take certain courses at NoVA and reach a certain overall GPA plus get a certain grade in specified courses. It's a very good deal for a student set on UVA who can maintain the requisite grades.

The NOVA agreement with George Mason has a required GPA which must be met; it is not automatic. Please see: https://www.nvcc.edu/depts/academic/transfer/GAA/GeorgeMasonUniversity-PU-GAA-2013-12.pdf

lol "The minimum cumulative NOVA GPA required currently is 2.85 upon graduation effective spring 2014." So it's even LOWER than the 3.0 that it used to be!

To the PP who called VCU "renowned"... where are you from? Nobody calls VCU "renowned."

Mason requires only a 2.85. C-level grades transfer for full credit, which is unheard of elsewhere. Mason recalculates the GPA to count only the higher grade received in a repeated (such as, flunked) course. Complete joke.

Incorrect. Requires a 2.85 minimum, which is basically straight Bs, with allowance for a B- or two. Plus this is on a 4.0 scale, not the exaggerated 5.0 and even 6.0 of high schools today. You can's compare high school grades to college grades.

Present a 2.85 or higher cumulative grade point average (CGPA) upon application to
Mason and upon VCCS graduation. Mason utilizes the CGPA as indicated on the
official VCCS transcript. Applicants are required to submit two official VCCS
transcripts. The first transcript must be received in the Office of Admissions no later than
March 10 for fall admission or October 10 for spring admission. The final transcript
reflecting the degree conferral date must be received by the Office of Admissions no later
than the last day of the first semester of enrollment.

5. Earn a minimum of 30 transferable credits (see #3 below) from a VCCS college with
grades of A, B or C in every course. These courses must be applicable to the A.A., A.S.
or A.A.& S. degree program. If a course is repeated, the higher g

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Anonymous wrote:GMU has a top notch computer department and all of the major government contracting companies support and recruit from it.

If you are looking to get a reputable degree, save money and not party it is an excellent option. Of course there is another body of students that are partying but it isn't the dominating culture.

"Computer" Department? You mean CS? If so there are many more esteemed universities for that. Probably hundreds.

Not 100s. GMU ranks 67 out of hundreds of Computer Science programs. http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings/page+8

1) these are grad school rankings
2) MD is ranked 15

And both UVA and VT are top 40.

One final point...ranking 60 something out of 113 is less than 50th percentile....not something I would brag about.

GMU is a solid educational institution that is absolutely heading in the right direction, but the GMU boosters are just as deluded as the ones tearing it down.

This argument is ridiculous.

It is clear that people who value name brands and people who value quality regardless of name brand are not going to go shopping with the same goal in mind.

If you want to get a great education and be able to fluff your own feathers when people ask where you went to school, choose UVA.

If you want a great education and don't give a crap what people think about the school you chose, choose GMU.

I will not pay for an Ivy league education for my children because it turns out people with the attitudes I see all over the DCUM board. I don't want my kids to be this narrow-minded.

Anonymous wrote:Now you leave the OP alone. Maybe his dad's just trying to make him feel better about having to attend Mason.

OP, Mason may have been more selective initially; however, that is no longer the case.

The truth is that Mason is filled with lots of bright kids who end up there due to finances or because they didn't get into other schools. Perhaps they chose Mason as a safety and ended up there because the other schools didn't offer the financial aid package that would allow them to attend.

The truth is that the school's selectivity is not as important as what you get out of it.

I went to a school with open-enrollment. It was the laughingstock of my town and considered the 13th grade instead of college. People had a point, everyone who applied got in. It was like a 4-year NOVA. However, that didn't stop me from going Ivy for grad school.

The other truth is that you will have a great time no matter where you go. It's COLLEGE!!!!

I had a blast during my 4 years at that laughingstock of a state school I had to attend. And met some wonderful people there. (I was also shocked to see so many super smart people from my school there. Finances. You go where you can afford it.)

Profoundly sad there are people who think that way, isn't it. Glad your experience was overwhelmingly positive! You could teach people a lot around these parts!!

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Anonymous wrote:"A Bachelor's degree candidate in computer engineering can expect to earn $59,000 in their first year after graduating from GMU". Not bad. I'll take that. http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/10/17/tracking-graduates-wages-virginia#sthah.g15dsX7l.dpbs.

Yes i am sure Comm college students can make lots of money if they work hard....Except you have to forever look down when someone asks " where did you go to college".

GMU isn't a community college, idiot.

Actually it offers AAs

What do you mean? Asociate of Arts degrees? It doesn't. DS will get a Bachelors' in Science. One-third of the kids on campus are getting their masters' or docctoral degrees. They don't offer a two year degree of any sort, if that's what you are thinking.

GMU is for VT rejects.They offer TV VCR repair classes for kids afraid to leave home.

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Anonymous wrote:GMU has a top notch computer department and all of the major government contracting companies support and recruit from it.

If you are looking to get a reputable degree, save money and not party it is an excellent option. Of course there is another body of students that are partying but it isn't the dominating culture.

"Computer" Department? You mean CS? If so there are many more esteemed universities for that. Probably hundreds.

Not 100s. GMU ranks 67 out of hundreds of Computer Science programs. http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings/page+8

1) these are grad school rankings
2) MD is ranked 15

And both UVA and VT are top 40.

One final point...ranking 60 something out of 113 is less than 50th percentile....not something I would brag about.

Unless you're crazy mason booster

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Anonymous wrote:GMU has a top notch computer department and all of the major government contracting companies support and recruit from it.

If you are looking to get a reputable degree, save money and not party it is an excellent option. Of course there is another body of students that are partying but it isn't the dominating culture.

"Computer" Department? You mean CS? If so there are many more esteemed universities for that. Probably hundreds.

Not 100s. GMU ranks 67 out of hundreds of Computer Science programs. http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings/page+8

1) these are grad school rankings
2) MD is ranked 15

And both UVA and VT are top 40.

One final point...ranking 60 something out of 113 is less than 50th percentile....not something I would brag about.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is delightful and hysterical. Let's start out the next level --

"GMU is actually more selective than Yale and most of the GMU faculty turned down appointments at Oxford. My DC who had a weekend beer-a-thon habit by 17 and has a high school B-minus average in the general program is going to GMU because it's so much more rigorous than Chicago. Columbia University is selling all its off-campus real estate in Manhattan so that it can fund ditching its curriculum and adopting the "Mason Core." The real "next half-century" crisis at Harvard is, how can they keep up with GMU? Cravath's partners who SAY they went to UVA actually went to Mason but they're trying to keep all of the Mason excellence to themselves. Discuss, incorporating personal anecdotes."

Why such bitterness? Why the need to bash the VA universities. For $9500 a year they do an outstanding job.

I agree. The Mason detractor is a complete ignoramus, as much as he would like to come across as a sophisticate. Pretty pathetic.

Are you so foolish as to think all the posts are from one person? I never posted anything in my life and have no axe to grind with George Mason. It serves its mission well. But to boost it beyond recognition does you and your school a disservice. Not to mention add credence to the haters.