Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 22:19     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:^^He got in to Harvard because his family had position and power. Bush has admitted to being a 'C' student and proud of it.
No 'C' student would get into Harvard Business School today (or even yesteryear) unless they had very powerful connections. Period.


True, and he has very powerful connections. His father was president, after all.


And he did go on to be elected Governor and President so perhaps Yale and Harvard saw something after all.



You mean "selected" President, Bush was not "elected" in 2000. He did squeak through in 2004, though.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 22:17     Subject: Re:If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:Once again: It's "cachet" not "cache".


Touche (or is it touchet?)
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 21:07     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^He got in to Harvard because his family had position and power. Bush has admitted to being a 'C' student and proud of it.
No 'C' student would get into Harvard Business School today (or even yesteryear) unless they had very powerful connections. Period.


True, and he has very powerful connections. His father was president, after all.


And he did go on to be elected Governor and President so perhaps Yale and Harvard saw something after all.
Ok. Whatever you $ay.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 19:57     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

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Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.


By "most" you mean Harvard. Yale comes close. The rest, not so much. So, all your kid has to do is get into Harvard, problem solved!

(If you are the person who keeps posting that families <$150K pay nothing, you need to stop because you're seriously misleading people.)


IF your child has the grades to get into the top schools, the money will follow.

Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame and MANY OTHER top schools meet 100% of financial need.

We received many very, very generous financial aid offers from many, many schools for DC who is not Ivy-bound.



Yes, of course, lots of non-Ivies provide generous merit and financial aid. I was responding to the claim that all Ivies meet all FA up to family income of $150K. They don't, only Harvard is this generous, because Harvard has a huge endowment. Also, the Ivies by agreement don't provide merit aid.

YALE also meets 100% of need.


That's two, then. Woohoo.


Give it a rest. If you've got what it takes to get into an ivy/top school undergrad, your family will get the financial support.

But Bitter Betties need to believe it's a struggle for families. Makes them feel better about Bitter Jr not getting in
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 19:23     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.


By "most" you mean Harvard. Yale comes close. The rest, not so much. So, all your kid has to do is get into Harvard, problem solved!

(If you are the person who keeps posting that families <$150K pay nothing, you need to stop because you're seriously misleading people.)


IF your child has the grades to get into the top schools, the money will follow.

Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame and MANY OTHER top schools meet 100% of financial need.

We received many very, very generous financial aid offers from many, many schools for DC who is not Ivy-bound.



Yes, of course, lots of non-Ivies provide generous merit and financial aid. I was responding to the claim that all Ivies meet all FA up to family income of $150K. They don't, only Harvard is this generous, because Harvard has a huge endowment. Also, the Ivies by agreement don't provide merit aid.

YALE also meets 100% of need.


That's two, then. Woohoo.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 19:02     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^He got in to Harvard because his family had position and power. Bush has admitted to being a 'C' student and proud of it.
No 'C' student would get into Harvard Business School today (or even yesteryear) unless they had very powerful connections. Period.


True, and he has very powerful connections. His father was president, after all.


And he did go on to be elected Governor and President so perhaps Yale and Harvard saw something after all.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 18:36     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.


By "most" you mean Harvard. Yale comes close. The rest, not so much. So, all your kid has to do is get into Harvard, problem solved!

(If you are the person who keeps posting that families <$150K pay nothing, you need to stop because you're seriously misleading people.)


IF your child has the grades to get into the top schools, the money will follow.

Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame and MANY OTHER top schools meet 100% of financial need.

We received many very, very generous financial aid offers from many, many schools for DC who is not Ivy-bound.



Yes, of course, lots of non-Ivies provide generous merit and financial aid. I was responding to the claim that all Ivies meet all FA up to family income of $150K. They don't, only Harvard is this generous, because Harvard has a huge endowment. Also, the Ivies by agreement don't provide merit aid.

YALE also meets 100% of need.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:50     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.


By "most" you mean Harvard. Yale comes close. The rest, not so much. So, all your kid has to do is get into Harvard, problem solved!

(If you are the person who keeps posting that families <$150K pay nothing, you need to stop because you're seriously misleading people.)


IF your child has the grades to get into the top schools, the money will follow.

Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame and MANY OTHER top schools meet 100% of financial need.

We received many very, very generous financial aid offers from many, many schools for DC who is not Ivy-bound.



Yes, of course, lots of non-Ivies provide generous merit and financial aid. I was responding to the claim that all Ivies meet all FA up to family income of $150K. They don't, only Harvard is this generous, because Harvard has a huge endowment. Also, the Ivies by agreement don't provide merit aid.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:45     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.


By "most" you mean Harvard. Yale comes close. The rest, not so much. So, all your kid has to do is get into Harvard, problem solved!

(If you are the person who keeps posting that families <$150K pay nothing, you need to stop because you're seriously misleading people.)


IF your child has the grades to get into the top schools, the money will follow.

Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame and MANY OTHER top schools meet 100% of financial need.

We received many very, very generous financial aid offers from many, many schools for DC who is not Ivy-bound.

Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 16:05     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^He got in to Harvard because his family had position and power. Bush has admitted to being a 'C' student and proud of it.
No 'C' student would get into Harvard Business School today (or even yesteryear) unless they had very powerful connections. Period.


True, and he has very powerful connections. His father was president, after all.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 13:00     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:^^He got in to Harvard because his family had position and power. Bush has admitted to being a 'C' student and proud of it.
No 'C' student would get into Harvard Business School today (or even yesteryear) unless they had very powerful connections. Period.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 12:56     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

^^He got in to Harvard because his family had position and power. Bush has admitted to being a 'C' student and proud of it.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 12:20     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

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Anonymous wrote:Not at all. Why? Because success is not about what school you went to. Success is about how you apply the knowledge that you have, and how persistent you are re: achieving your goals.

Too many people come out of these 'top schools' and can't communicate effectively. They don't know how to work with others. They feel that they are the sharpest nail in the box, and therefore don't have to.

A corporation is made up of lots of people. Run your own business, and you will also be dealing with lots of people. Being able to do that effectively is the key to long-term success.


Typical ivy envy nonsense that people parrot in order to make themselves feel better about the fact they didn't and never could make the Ivy cut. Most ivy and 'top school' grads are indeed effective communicators and they work extremely well with others. In fact, the majority of the ivy experience is networking (which=working with others in the real world) and communicating effectively. And top school grads actually ARE the sharpest nail in the box--the very people who get accepted into the schools in the first place.

The worst, most horrible 'leaders' I've ever worked with were state school grads. It was their lack of communication and interpersonal skills that made them such.


Yeah - an ivy education certainly helped this great leader learn to communicate



And he got into the Harvard Business School because he works harder than everybody else.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2014 11:16     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.


By "most" you mean Harvard. Yale comes close. The rest, not so much. So, all your kid has to do is get into Harvard, problem solved!

(If you are the person who keeps posting that families <$150K pay nothing, you need to stop because you're seriously misleading people.)
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2014 22:27     Subject: If your DC didn't get into selective schools are you jealous

Anonymous wrote:No, I would feel sorry for the parents to pony up with big $$$ for their students to go to Ivy.


Most Ivy League and top schools meet the family's full need--with NO LOANS.

Single parents making less than $65k and married couples making less than $150k or so pay NOTHING. From there it's a 'sliding scale'.