It was predicted that Fairfax and other counties will see this onslaught of attendance growth when PW Cty started enforcing citizenship checks from traffic incidents.

This also happens when residential density increases. It's scary to think about the impact of growth in places like Tysons and how it will impact the surrounding areas.

Anonymous wrote:If we weren't spending billions or trillions of dollars building schools and roads in Afghanistan, maybe our schools could use that money for teachers, computers, and books. This country is so messed up.

Or spending billions trying to get a website out for low cost healthcare for people who don't even pay taxes and are looking for handouts. Let's end these entitlement programs.

Get people working, making an honest living, and paying taxes.

Years ago, I lived in a suburb of Pittsburgh. The system required that ALL kids ride the bus. There was no Kiss and Ride. There were no walkers.

If we weren't spending billions or trillions of dollars building schools and roads in Afghanistan, maybe our schools could use that money for teachers, computers, and books. This country is so messed up.

We are spending billions for schools in FCPS. It is the WAY the money is spent.

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Anonymous wrote:My child's KG classroom has 17 children with two teachers and the percent of FARMS is very low. I really feel bad for the classrooms with 37 children. I know it could be my child in that situation in a few years. We really need to have lower caps on classroom sizes.

Wait, it gets better...I just found out that more kids are coming, to add to the 37!!!

What school is this? Is this one of those schools that everyone is specifically moving to certain locations for? You should contact your school board member directly about it and the Assistant Cluster Superintendent. Even Email Dr. Garza.

If we weren't spending billions or trillions of dollars building schools and roads in Afghanistan, maybe our schools could use that money for teachers, computers, and books. This country is so messed up.

Why shouldn't I expect the county to enforce their own laws? They can fine the apartment owner and force evacuations for allowing this especially if they know it's over the entire complex and not just one unit! The BOS can do something about the overcrowding, but THEY DON'T and then get upset at FCPS for asking for more money. If I buy a house with an apartment complex of 20 units in the school's district, I expect 20 families to be living there, not 40, and only a small number of them to have kids since the County believes apartments have fewer children. The County can easily see where this is happening where children are concerned because of the increased enrollment in the schools. The overcrowding of those apartments is what forces the school to be Title 1 and per FCPS staffing calculations they get more teachers per student while other schools have 38 kids in a class! These people are living illegally in housing and getting 2 to 3 times the amount of services as other families living legally in housing. All Fairfax County has to do is enforce their own laws to correct the situation. They hide behind the fact that they can't do anything about illegal immigration, but there are other laws they can enforce that would help the situation.

Anonymous wrote:My child's KG classroom has 17 children with two teachers and the percent of FARMS is very low. I really feel bad for the classrooms with 37 children. I know it could be my child in that situation in a few years. We really need to have lower caps on classroom sizes.

Wait, it gets better...I just found out that more kids are coming, to add to the 37!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mount Eagle: 16 kids per 6th grade classroom and 15 in each 4th grade

Sleepy Hollow: 15 per third grade class and 17 per 5th grade class

confirmed on Dashbaord:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Dashboard does NOT accurately report class sizes as there are kids that are counted seperately in there and are not included in the class size averages. So looking at Dashboard does not get you the info that we are discussing here. If you are reporting that Sleepy Hollow has 15 kids in several classrooms, and Mount Eagle has 15 kids from personal experience, that's one thing, but to grab the info from Dashboard and state that this is how it is is NOT correct. I say this because according to our chart on Dashboard we are at 19 average in the 5th grade, and we have no fifth grade classrooms with 19 or fewer kids. Like someone already said, our special education students are not included in that number, so the average is way too low.

I'm a substitute teacher and have been at both of those schools. The class sizes are accurate.

Have you been there this year? What were your experiences like?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mount Eagle: 16 kids per 6th grade classroom and 15 in each 4th grade

Sleepy Hollow: 15 per third grade class and 17 per 5th grade class

confirmed on Dashbaord:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Dashboard does NOT accurately report class sizes as there are kids that are counted seperately in there and are not included in the class size averages. So looking at Dashboard does not get you the info that we are discussing here. If you are reporting that Sleepy Hollow has 15 kids in several classrooms, and Mount Eagle has 15 kids from personal experience, that's one thing, but to grab the info from Dashboard and state that this is how it is is NOT correct. I say this because according to our chart on Dashboard we are at 19 average in the 5th grade, and we have no fifth grade classrooms with 19 or fewer kids. Like someone already said, our special education students are not included in that number, so the average is way too low.

I'm a substitute teacher and have been at both of those schools. The class sizes are accurate.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/code/property/overcrowding.htm

http://fido.fairfaxcounty.gov/DP1/Metroplex/FairfaxCounty/customerservice/WIZ_CSR.asp

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mount Eagle: 16 kids per 6th grade classroom and 15 in each 4th grade

Sleepy Hollow: 15 per third grade class and 17 per 5th grade class

confirmed on Dashbaord:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll13-14.html

Dashboard does NOT accurately report class sizes as there are kids that are counted seperately in there and are not included in the class size averages. So looking at Dashboard does not get you the info that we are discussing here. If you are reporting that Sleepy Hollow has 15 kids in several classrooms, and Mount Eagle has 15 kids from personal experience, that's one thing, but to grab the info from Dashboard and state that this is how it is is NOT correct. I say this because according to our chart on Dashboard we are at 19 average in the 5th grade, and we have no fifth grade classrooms with 19 or fewer kids. Like someone already said, our special education students are not included in that number, so the average is way too low.

Developers only have to pay for amenities and schools for about 1 child in 10 units in an apartment complex. And yet Fairfax County lets apartment complexes get away with having multiple families in apartments. No wonder everything is so overcrowded here and we never get the payments we need from new development.

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Anonymous wrote:Sleepy Hollow is most of Lake Barcroft. Looks like most of it is single family large acre dwellings and some apartments, but not any more than I've seen in other well to do districts. How is it possible that this school is Title 1? Is everyone living in houses legally?

More likely it's the apartments that are overcrowded. In the Culmore area around Bailey's there are 2 and 3 families per apartment. The apartments that feed into Sleepy Hollow may be similar. There used to be quite a few illegal boarding houses in the neighborhoods around Sleepy Hollow, but it seems as if most of those resolved during the foreclosure crisis.

The area around Bel Air Park north of Kerns and south of Tripps Run probably also has a number of SFHs with multiple families living in them but most of the low income kids live in the area north of Route 50 assigned to the school. If that complex and Culmore were redeveloped into something nicer, Seven Corners would be very different.

Anonymous wrote:I have seen an empty bus pull up in front of those low rise apartments right around the corner from Target and the bus completely fill up with kids coming out of one building. It is crazy. I can't even imagine all the kids live in that one building.

Exactly, I have seen this in from of apartments and also along 50 and 7 in that area. It's crazy I was thinking how many kids are going on the school bus, it was like a huge crowd waiting every morning.