Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if you're going to raise your children to look out for the elderly like that as teens, GOOD ON YOU! That's great. But most teenagers don't. They leave that stuff to the adults. (Remember the stories of the creepy old men in the neighborhood? You can never be too careful with your children. Most parents don't allow them to get too close to other adults.)

Was just going to say this.

And yet you drop your young teens at the mall to see a movie, where a dirty old man can sit down right to them, and let his hands "wander"? Don't worry. Most kids would be too mortified to make a peep. (And if they told you, then you'd never let them go back.)

Please say you don't do that.

If you let your teenager shovel snow for an elderly neighbor, you also let your teenager get molested at the movies?

Good grief. I should stop being amazed when threads on DCUM suddenly veer of into Wackland.

You can't possibly be as stupid as you pretend, or can you?
If you are ok with dropping your kid at the movies,
You should be ok with them knocking on your neighbor's doors.
Duh.

For God's sake. Teens are overwhelmed? Can't go door to door? Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

I don't know how old your children are, but you will soon realize today's teens are OVERWHELMED. I have a feeling more than a few teachers assigned extra work for kids during this snowcation. Between schoolwork, extra curriculars, projects, jobs and whatever else they have going on, I'm impressed they'd even get out and shovel for money.

Seeing how busy--and impressively willing to work--their children are, some parents will try to help them out a bit.

I see nothing wrong with that.

You're the most articulate 17-year-old I've met in awhile.

Or, you're a parent who is complete apologist for his/her children.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

I don't know how old your children are, but you will soon realize today's teens are OVERWHELMED. I have a feeling more than a few teachers assigned extra work for kids during this snowcation. Between schoolwork, extra curriculars, projects, jobs and whatever else they have going on, I'm impressed they'd even get out and shovel for money.

Seeing how busy--and impressively willing to work--their children are, some parents will try to help them out a bit.

I see nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if you're going to raise your children to look out for the elderly like that as teens, GOOD ON YOU! That's great. But most teenagers don't. They leave that stuff to the adults. (Remember the stories of the creepy old men in the neighborhood? You can never be too careful with your children. Most parents don't allow them to get too close to other adults.)

Was just going to say this.

And yet you drop your young teens at the mall to see a movie, where a dirty old man can sit down right to them, and let his hands "wander"? Don't worry. Most kids would be too mortified to make a peep. (And if they told you, then you'd never let them go back.)

Please say you don't do that.

If you let your teenager shovel snow for an elderly neighbor, you also let your teenager get molested at the movies?

Good grief. I should stop being amazed when threads on DCUM suddenly veer of into Wackland.

Exactly!

There's a HUGE difference between having a teenager/child in an elderly person's home (where a lot of molestation occurs, if/when it does) and dropping them off at the mall.

Let's be real: How many teens and strange old men do you see sitting next to each other in a movie theater? Neither would venture to sit next to the other. And if a creepy old man did, I guarantee that teenager would be so creeped out s/he would move to another seat.

Again, if that poster wants to teach their children to look after the elderly in their neighborhood--instead of being neighborly enough to do it their damn selves and allow their teens to enjoy their teen years--that's her business. My teens never did it, and I never lost sleep over that fact.

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

^^^off, not of

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if you're going to raise your children to look out for the elderly like that as teens, GOOD ON YOU! That's great. But most teenagers don't. They leave that stuff to the adults. (Remember the stories of the creepy old men in the neighborhood? You can never be too careful with your children. Most parents don't allow them to get too close to other adults.)

Was just going to say this.

And yet you drop your young teens at the mall to see a movie, where a dirty old man can sit down right to them, and let his hands "wander"? Don't worry. Most kids would be too mortified to make a peep. (And if they told you, then you'd never let them go back.)

Please say you don't do that.

If you let your teenager shovel snow for an elderly neighbor, you also let your teenager get molested at the movies?

Good grief. I should stop being amazed when threads on DCUM suddenly veer of into Wackland.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if you're going to raise your children to look out for the elderly like that as teens, GOOD ON YOU! That's great. But most teenagers don't. They leave that stuff to the adults. (Remember the stories of the creepy old men in the neighborhood? You can never be too careful with your children. Most parents don't allow them to get too close to other adults.)

Was just going to say this.

And yet you drop your young teens at the mall to see a movie, where a dirty old man can sit down right to them, and let his hands "wander"? Don't worry. Most kids would be too mortified to make a peep. (And if they told you, then you'd never let them go back.)

Please say you don't do that.

Anonymous wrote:Now if you're going to raise your children to look out for the elderly like that as teens, GOOD ON YOU! That's great. But most teenagers don't. They leave that stuff to the adults. (Remember the stories of the creepy old men in the neighborhood? You can never be too careful with your children. Most parents don't allow them to get too close to other adults.)

Was just going to say this.

On our list serve people were posting looking for shovelers. A few parents offered the services of their kids. As someone noted the kids are not on the list serve. Why go door to door, that's ridiculous in this day and age. Plus I'd be annoyed if multiple teens kept knocking on the door to shovel. The dog would be barking and I'd invariably be on a conference call.

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Anonymous wrote:I paid a teenage kid in our hood $60 to do our driveway. I sat inside and cuddled with my DH and watched a movie and drank coffee. We work a TON and it was a great 2 hours of time. And the kid was psyched to get 60 bucks for 2 hours of work.

Everyone wins. everyone is happy. yay.

(and yes, his mom sent out the email to coordinate his jobs. And I dont give a damn. and in 2 years when my son would be old enough to shovel and make some extra cash, no way in hell is he going around knocking on random strangers doors. Thats just not safe today. No way in HELL.)

Why didn't you make your kid shovel the snow? You paid someone $60 and let your kid off the hook? My kids shovel the snow. Ages 4, 8, and 10. Then they built forts and caves.

Why do you care?