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Anonymous wrote:Mary even said that Matthew had made her kind and with his death that had gone away. I think it is going to take a rogue, such as one of Branson's hot socialists buds, to unlock Mary's heart or another part of her body.

This weekend the NYT had an article about travel to Turkey, and the author had the last name "Pamuk." I sadly wondered if he was related to "Mr Pamuk."

I love the idea of Mary getting swept off her feet by a socialist (as opposed to the wonky guy with bad hair).

And, yes, I saw the article about Turkey and also had a moment of sadness thinking of Mr. Pamuk. Remember when our romance with Downton was new and exciting? Sigh . . .

Orhan Pamuk won the Nobel Prize for literature a few years ago. I love Downton Abbey, too, but you people need to pick up an actual book once in a while! Sheesh!

PP Don't get your knickers in a twist. I posted the info about the NYT travel article, and I have read that "Mr. Pamuk's" books. It was just funny to see the NYT have an article by someone with the last name "Pamuk," the same day they had an article about Edith's new style. Sorry if I offended your literary sensibilities.

Not PP, but not sure why Orhan Pamuk won a Pulitzer. His book was a major snooze fest.

Anonymous wrote:So for people like the Crowleys, most of their days are filled with getting ready for and attending social engagements?

Or just getting ready for dinner. Men wore tuxes, after all.

Last week when the downstairs people were listening to the music from upstairs, there were three young women in gray uniforms listening to the music. I hadn't seen them before. Maybe they are the house cleaners.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary even said that Matthew had made her kind and with his death that had gone away. I think it is going to take a rogue, such as one of Branson's hot socialists buds, to unlock Mary's heart or another part of her body.

This weekend the NYT had an article about travel to Turkey, and the author had the last name "Pamuk." I sadly wondered if he was related to "Mr Pamuk."

I love the idea of Mary getting swept off her feet by a socialist (as opposed to the wonky guy with bad hair).

And, yes, I saw the article about Turkey and also had a moment of sadness thinking of Mr. Pamuk. Remember when our romance with Downton was new and exciting? Sigh . . .

Orhan Pamuk won the Nobel Prize for literature a few years ago. I love Downton Abbey, too, but you people need to pick up an actual book once in a while! Sheesh!

PP Don't get your knickers in a twist. I posted the info about the NYT travel article, and I have read that "Mr. Pamuk's" books. It was just funny to see the NYT have an article by someone with the last name "Pamuk," the same day they had an article about Edith's new style. Sorry if I offended your literary sensibilities.

Anonymous wrote:So for people like the Crowleys, most of their days are filled with getting ready for and attending social engagements?

1) You mean the Granthams? They entertain and they deal with the tenants who farm their land. And they historically took care of their tenants say, if someone got sick or whatever. And the women were involved in charity work.

The Crowleys (the late Matthew and his mom) were--not sure if to call it working class, but they were not leisure class, much to the horror of the Granthams. Matthew was a practicing lawyer and his mom was and still is involved in hospital work.

2) Ok now something else…I read an interview with the guy who plays the band singer. He said that his real singing voice is nothing like the voice he sings with on DA. He had to get voice coach lessons to sing like that. DA is going for a particular kind of sound, based on recordings of the time. Apparently that kind of nasally quality was the favored style of the period.

3) I've read a little history of hair dye and women (in Malcolm Gladwell's book "What the Dog Saw."). Also I'm thinking about my own grandma and that generation. There is no way they'd be into hair dye; it was not done until at least mid-century. Edith would probably be light brown, and Cora would be gray, or salt and pepper for sure, and I bet even Mary would have a few grays by now.

So for people like the Crowleys, most of their days are filled with getting ready for and attending social engagements?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Mary the only sister with her own personal maid (Anna)?

They've shown Anna with the other sisters before - I think she serves them all?

Did anyone notice that there are no house maids any more? They have 3 kitchen staff but no scullery maids. Before Anna was promoted to lady's maid, she and Gwen cleaned the actual house, but there aren't any regular maid staff any more.

The three sisters "shared" Anna before, but when Mary got married (!) she got her very own lady's maid.

right, but the lady's maids don't do the housework. so they have all these footman, kitchen staff, but no one who cleans.

Can we really assume Edith dumbly signed something without reading it? She is literate and educated, after all. Surely, she wouldn't have blindly signed something assuming the guy's debts or the care of his disabled wife.... right? Right, Edith? (I hope.)

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Mary the only sister with her own personal maid (Anna)?

They've shown Anna with the other sisters before - I think she serves them all?

Did anyone notice that there are no house maids any more? They have 3 kitchen staff but no scullery maids. Before Anna was promoted to lady's maid, she and Gwen cleaned the actual house, but there aren't any regular maid staff any more.

The three sisters "shared" Anna before, but when Mary got married (!) she got her very own lady's maid.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Mary the only sister with her own personal maid (Anna)?

They've shown Anna with the other sisters before - I think she serves them all?

Did anyone notice that there are no house maids any more? They have 3 kitchen staff but no scullery maids. Before Anna was promoted to lady's maid, she and Gwen cleaned the actual house, but there aren't any regular maid staff any more.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they making Cora look like such a goofball when she talks this season? Anyone else notice this?

She was especially weird with that maniacal smiling in the restaurant.

I thought she seemed high!

I was wondering if it will come out that she is taking some sort of drug. Her character started using it to deal with the miscarriage or loss of her daughter.

That would make sense but I really think it's just her acting.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they making Cora look like such a goofball when she talks this season? Anyone else notice this?

She was especially weird with that maniacal smiling in the restaurant.

I thought she seemed high!

I was wondering if it will come out that she is taking some sort of drug. Her character started using it to deal with the miscarriage or loss of her daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they making Cora look like such a goofball when she talks this season? Anyone else notice this?

She was especially weird with that maniacal smiling in the restaurant.

I thought she seemed high!

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Anonymous wrote:Mary even said that Matthew had made her kind and with his death that had gone away. I think it is going to take a rogue, such as one of Branson's hot socialists buds, to unlock Mary's heart or another part of her body.

This weekend the NYT had an article about travel to Turkey, and the author had the last name "Pamuk." I sadly wondered if he was related to "Mr Pamuk."

I love the idea of Mary getting swept off her feet by a socialist (as opposed to the wonky guy with bad hair).

And, yes, I saw the article about Turkey and also had a moment of sadness thinking of Mr. Pamuk. Remember when our romance with Downton was new and exciting? Sigh . . .

Orhan Pamuk won the Nobel Prize for literature a few years ago. I love Downton Abbey, too, but you people need to pick up an actual book once in a while! Sheesh!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they making Cora look like such a goofball when she talks this season? Anyone else notice this?

She was especially weird with that maniacal smiling in the restaurant.

Yes! Exactly. Very good description pp.