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@16:48

spending time with a person isnt a binary decision between getting married and "just someone to sleep with"

there are other options in case you forgot.

ideal for me? a woman 24 years old who is looking for a something semi serious but not yet ready for marriage.

if she were my daughter i'd never advocate she do that, but these are grown ups making their own decisions.

kids don't have be nasty baggage, its funny you put it that way. with shared custody, time over laps can be minimal and geeze, maybe the kids are lovely and she enjoys spending time with them?

serious question for you: what year was it when you got married in your 20's? part of my thesis has an assumption that their is trend in place that is increasing the age gaps which seem acceptable to people currently.

this is for a lot of reasons but the two main ones are the feminization of men and the poor economy which has had a serious negative impact on the ability of young males to evolve into men.

its a push and a pull. guys in their 20's arent nearly as attractive to women in their 20's and men in their late 30's and early 40's are increasingly focused on staying fit, healthy, energetic, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

37 might be appealing, say 43 is not. Your time is running out.

There is a difference between and older man and an old man. You do know what you won't be 37 forever, right?

the difference between "old" and "older" is often up to the person. there are plenty of guys at 35 who are just old and worthless.

a stylish in shape guy at 40 or 42 or whatever will still have appeal to women 10-15 years younger than him. in fact, that trend always continues. 50 and 35? that seems reasonable to me.

its all about how you take care of yourself and how you present yourself.

dockers, blue shirt, and frumpy? doesn't even matter what your age.

strong, fit, and wearing custom suits? does age even matter then?

Nope. 50 and 35 is not reasonable. It can happen, sure, but you will have to lower your standards substantially. In fact you are lowering them already (compared to what you could have gotten) in order to date those 20 year olds, just not to the same extent.

actually that hasn't been my experience. as i have gotten older my value as gotten higher and thus the quality of women i've attracted has been higher as well. better looking, better pedigree, nicer, more fun - all of it.

guys in their 20's are selling (their commitment and companionship) low. i think most men hit their stride and reach full value sometime mid to late 30's.

opposite for women

it's not the opposite, there is about 5 years lag, as already explained. women peak at 25-30, men peak 30-35. you are alreaady going downhill.

+1 you miiiiight be peaking now, but the kids are a big minus for many women. probably over the hill, sorry. also your shitty attitude toward women is a big turn-off for women of any age.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

37 might be appealing, say 43 is not. Your time is running out.

There is a difference between and older man and an old man. You do know what you won't be 37 forever, right?

the difference between "old" and "older" is often up to the person. there are plenty of guys at 35 who are just old and worthless.

a stylish in shape guy at 40 or 42 or whatever will still have appeal to women 10-15 years younger than him. in fact, that trend always continues. 50 and 35? that seems reasonable to me.

its all about how you take care of yourself and how you present yourself.

dockers, blue shirt, and frumpy? doesn't even matter what your age.

strong, fit, and wearing custom suits? does age even matter then?

Nope. 50 and 35 is not reasonable. It can happen, sure, but you will have to lower your standards substantially. In fact you are lowering them already (compared to what you could have gotten) in order to date those 20 year olds, just not to the same extent.

actually that hasn't been my experience. as i have gotten older my value as gotten higher and thus the quality of women i've attracted has been higher as well. better looking, better pedigree, nicer, more fun - all of it.

guys in their 20's are selling (their commitment and companionship) low. i think most men hit their stride and reach full value sometime mid to late 30's.

opposite for women

it's not the opposite, there is about 5 years lag, as already explained. women peak at 25-30, men peak 30-35. you are alreaady going downhill.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

Sorry, you're not very articulate. Are they using you for your bank account or because they like your company? You say they're seeking out the provider type, but yet claim they're not taking advantage of you.

They certainly aren't dating you for your writing skills.

sorry you could't read through your anger.

girls in their 20's = fun times and company
women in their mid 30's and beyond = seeking provider
not the other way around

clear enough?

by your own logic, by the time you hit your forties, those 10-15 years younger women will be married or looking to be so. so you, a rapidly aging bachelor with a stigma of failure (as seen from marriage bound women) will be competing with 20 and 30 year olds for fun, careless 20 something year olds that are not yet looking to get married. lets just say, it's a game you are not going to win.

hardly. a) 40-15= 25. b) i've already cashed out my winnings - divorced and have kids. c) ask 20 something girls what they think about 20 something "men" these days...its not favorable. the ongoing feminization of the american male plus the poor economy has made it pretty hard for those sad boys to start acting like men.

ok, you keep changing your story, and its is really unclear whether you are looking for a wife or just someone to sleep with. so i am really not going to comment on your constantly shifting case, except to note that, as someone who had very many options and got married in my mid 20s, I would never have considered a guy with kids or a guy more than 10 years older. in a way its a plus that at least you have been married, but kids are a big, nasty baggage and so is divorce. so one way or the other, you are not getting the first tier women except maybe for your ex wife.

moving on from your case, here are the facts: 1) you will age 2) men over 45 are largely considered unattractive (something like 40 yo women - they can look good yet they can no more be truly desirable) 3) women prefer men app. 5 years older, not 15 years older. I don't need to ask women what they think about men their age because others have done it already. there are loads of research on this, and the ideal partner for a woman is about 3-4 years older - that is what women, ideally, are looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

Sorry, you're not very articulate. Are they using you for your bank account or because they like your company? You say they're seeking out the provider type, but yet claim they're not taking advantage of you.

They certainly aren't dating you for your writing skills.

sorry you could't read through your anger.

girls in their 20's = fun times and company
women in their mid 30's and beyond = seeking provider
not the other way around

clear enough?

by your own logic, by the time you hit your forties, those 10-15 years younger women will be married or looking to be so. so you, a rapidly aging bachelor with a stigma of failure (as seen from marriage bound women) will be competing with 20 and 30 year olds for fun, careless 20 something year olds that are not yet looking to get married. lets just say, it's a game you are not going to win.

hardly. a) 40-15= 25. b) i've already cashed out my winnings - divorced and have kids. c) ask 20 something girls what they think about 20 something "men" these days...its not favorable. the ongoing feminization of the american male plus the poor economy has made it pretty hard for those sad boys to start acting like men.

Well, you sound like quite a catch! Those are some lucky "girls" who get to date a "man" like you! Divorced with kids and custom suits, too. I'm SO sad for all the women in their 30s who are too old to be in your dating pool. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

37 might be appealing, say 43 is not. Your time is running out.

There is a difference between and older man and an old man. You do know what you won't be 37 forever, right?

the difference between "old" and "older" is often up to the person. there are plenty of guys at 35 who are just old and worthless.

a stylish in shape guy at 40 or 42 or whatever will still have appeal to women 10-15 years younger than him. in fact, that trend always continues. 50 and 35? that seems reasonable to me.

its all about how you take care of yourself and how you present yourself.

dockers, blue shirt, and frumpy? doesn't even matter what your age.

strong, fit, and wearing custom suits? does age even matter then?

Nope. 50 and 35 is not reasonable. It can happen, sure, but you will have to lower your standards substantially. In fact you are lowering them already (compared to what you could have gotten) in order to date those 20 year olds, just not to the same extent.

actually that hasn't been my experience. as i have gotten older my value as gotten higher and thus the quality of women i've attracted has been higher as well. better looking, better pedigree, nicer, more fun - all of it.

guys in their 20's are selling (their commitment and companionship) low. i think most men hit their stride and reach full value sometime mid to late 30's.

opposite for women

How many people in the world are there?

Wow...that makes how many opinions and observations and interpretations and inclinations?

Wow...

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

37 might be appealing, say 43 is not. Your time is running out.

There is a difference between and older man and an old man. You do know what you won't be 37 forever, right?

the difference between "old" and "older" is often up to the person. there are plenty of guys at 35 who are just old and worthless.

a stylish in shape guy at 40 or 42 or whatever will still have appeal to women 10-15 years younger than him. in fact, that trend always continues. 50 and 35? that seems reasonable to me.

its all about how you take care of yourself and how you present yourself.

dockers, blue shirt, and frumpy? doesn't even matter what your age.

strong, fit, and wearing custom suits? does age even matter then?

Nope. 50 and 35 is not reasonable. It can happen, sure, but you will have to lower your standards substantially. In fact you are lowering them already (compared to what you could have gotten) in order to date those 20 year olds, just not to the same extent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

Sorry, you're not very articulate. Are they using you for your bank account or because they like your company? You say they're seeking out the provider type, but yet claim they're not taking advantage of you.

They certainly aren't dating you for your writing skills.

sorry you could't read through your anger.

girls in their 20's = fun times and company
women in their mid 30's and beyond = seeking provider
not the other way around

clear enough?

by your own logic, by the time you hit your forties, those 10-15 years younger women will be married or looking to be so. so you, a rapidly aging bachelor with a stigma of failure (as seen from marriage bound women) will be competing with 20 and 30 year olds for fun, careless 20 something year olds that are not yet looking to get married. lets just say, it's a game you are not going to win.

hardly. a) 40-15= 25. b) i've already cashed out my winnings - divorced and have kids. c) ask 20 something girls what they think about 20 something "men" these days...its not favorable. the ongoing feminization of the american male plus the poor economy has made it pretty hard for those sad boys to start acting like men.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

Sorry, you're not very articulate. Are they using you for your bank account or because they like your company? You say they're seeking out the provider type, but yet claim they're not taking advantage of you.

They certainly aren't dating you for your writing skills.

sorry you could't read through your anger.

girls in their 20's = fun times and company
women in their mid 30's and beyond = seeking provider
not the other way around

clear enough?

by your own logic, by the time you hit your forties, those 10-15 years younger women will be married or looking to be so. so you, a rapidly aging bachelor with a stigma of failure (as seen from marriage bound women) will be competing with 20 and 30 year olds for fun, careless 20 something year olds that are not yet looking to get married. lets just say, it's a game you are not going to win.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

37 might be appealing, say 43 is not. Your time is running out.

There is a difference between and older man and an old man. You do know what you won't be 37 forever, right?

the difference between "old" and "older" is often up to the person. there are plenty of guys at 35 who are just old and worthless.

a stylish in shape guy at 40 or 42 or whatever will still have appeal to women 10-15 years younger than him. in fact, that trend always continues. 50 and 35? that seems reasonable to me.

its all about how you take care of yourself and how you present yourself.

dockers, blue shirt, and frumpy? doesn't even matter what your age.

strong, fit, and wearing custom suits? does age even matter then?

Anonymous wrote:Not at all, dh is 6 months younger than me and we've been together for 20 years, 3 kids, rewarding career, common goals, still very happy. Thanks for asking.

I've just lived in DC for a long time and have seen the ridiculousness of the younger, beautiful, designer everything, botoxed, etc. wife and the balding older husband working his as off to pay for everything and still schlepping around toddlers at 50.

I am 28 and my husband is 43. I suppose we fit this bill except my husband doesn't have money to go after although he makes more than me (he also has a full head of hair). If we are happy what does anyone else care? Our relationship is happier than any other couple that I know - and I'm not just saying that. I see your point about kids - my husband's parents also, coincidentally, had a 15 year age difference and his father had him in his 50's and it's sad he didn't get to spend a lot of time with him. But honestly, not every older man/younger woman couple is superficial and about money.

I'm not put off by older men dating younger women unless that's ALL he dates - then it would be a turn-off. There's nothing sexier and more appealing than a mature man who appreciates the beauty of women of all ages.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you have lots of cash. Younger women don't really want to date YOU.

+1

this is another of the standard responses of older women when confronted with a man dating a younger woman. shame and lies.

younger women often times enjoy the company of an older wiser man simply for the company.

in my dating, i consistently date women 10-15 years younger than I am (late 30's) and I know the game well enough not to spend much money at all.

a 37 year old man who is established, confident, mature, sexy and in great shape is appealing to just about all demographics of women.

i've dated this range of women for years and have never ever had anyone even try to take advantage of me

in fact, its the women who have "fun" in their 20's who seek out the provider types when they finally reach their 30's and are "ready to settle down."

all code for done fucking studs and ready for a bank account

37 might be appealing, say 43 is not. Your time is running out.

There is a difference between and older man and an old man. You do know what you won't be 37 forever, right?