Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 11:12     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

I think this says it all. You're kid has very little chance of having a completely different high school experience between these two schools. They are pretty similar.


All the more reason not to bother pupil placing out of Madison.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 11:08     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live in Vienna and my kids go to Marshall. I would say they have an equal number of friends at Madison and Marshall since many of their classmates from elementary and middle school are at Madison. I can count the kids they know at Oakton on one hand.

Oakton has a Vienna address, but the majority of Vienna kids go to Madison or Marshall.

Marshall does have a Falls Church address, but probably at least half if not more of its students are from Vienna.

Hard to go wrong with any school in this area so it's a wonder folks get so worked up about this. If you're comfortable with the education your kids are getting who cares?

And int terms of athletic programs, I wouldn't count Marshall out as the area continues to grow. These things change over time. The freshman class at GCM is the biggest in history with more than 500 kids and the impact is already evident in the success of the freshman teams, including football, which defeated Madison this year.


JV and Varsity both crushed Marshall.


Yes they did. But it's called a pipeline. Sure kids in some of those stem academy courses you demean would understand the concept.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 11:06     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:Marshall doesn't have over 500 freshmen.


Not sure the numbers on the website are correct. School recently told parents there were 510 freshman.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 11:02     Subject: Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Also the IB vs AP debate has seem to put IB college level credit on the same Footing as AP after new law changes in 2010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/admissions-101-getting-college-credit-for-international-baccalaureate-courses/2012/02/21/gIQAJVIQRR_blog.html
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 11:02     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:2013 SATs

TJ 2197
Langley 1837
Woodson 1792
McLean 1781
Oakton 1754
Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

Again, top six schools in county are all AP, not IB.



And these scores demonstrate what? My senior scored 2300 and went to Marshall. Don't think the school actually hurt.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:58     Subject: Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Please review the STEM offerings at Chantilly which will soon be implemented at Marshall. You can see that many of these choices will allow your child to apply the courses towards college credit in engineering (and have been pre--approved to do so).

http://www.fcps.edu/ChantillyAcademy/Courses/Courses.html

AP courses usually be applied to college credit but recently there have been issues and are taken in a case by case basis
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/class-struggle/2009/02/extra_credit_dont_count_on_col.html

Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:53     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

I think this says it all. You're kid has very little chance of having a completely different high school experience between these two schools. They are pretty similar.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:49     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/rankings

TJ #1
Langley #2
Madison #3
McLean #4
Woodson #5
Oakton #6

Didn't keep scrolling down after the top 10, but Marshall is probably somewhere lower on the list.


Good one but you still haven't addressed the specifics of each school


Would you send an engineering student to William and Mary #32 because it is higher rated than Virginia Tech #69?

There is more specifics to rankings than just taking the highest rated number.


I'd send a budding college engineering student to Madison for AP math/science classes over Marshall's vocational "STEM Academy."


It is not specific to a vocational school and Madison offers nothing in the line of STEM. If you review the previous poster's new announcement marshall will be implementing a full stem program starting 2014. If you review Chantilly's STEM program you can see much more in depth courses and activities that will help prepare a student for college level STEM degree paths.

Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:47     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:Madison has won the Wachovia Cup for combination of athletics/academics at least five times. Has Marshall ever been in the running for this award?



We already know that Marshall athletics aren't as strong as madison.

Asking about awards is kind of dumb because they are subjective to the strengths of the individual school's programs.

It would be like me saying "How come I don't see Madison in the top finalist for the Cyber Patriot Awards"

It's because Marshall has a focus on STEM where as Madison doesn't.

http://www.uscyberpatriot.org/Pages/default.aspx
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:42     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/rankings

TJ #1
Langley #2
Madison #3
McLean #4
Woodson #5
Oakton #6

Didn't keep scrolling down after the top 10, but Marshall is probably somewhere lower on the list.


Good one but you still haven't addressed the specifics of each school


Would you send an engineering student to William and Mary #32 because it is higher rated than Virginia Tech #69?

There is more specifics to rankings than just taking the highest rated number.


I'd send a budding college engineering student to Madison for AP math/science classes over Marshall's vocational "STEM Academy."
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:38     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Madison has won the Wachovia Cup for combination of athletics/academics at least five times. Has Marshall ever been in the running for this award?

Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:35     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
2013 SATs

TJ 2197
Langley 1837
Woodson 1792
McLean 1781
Oakton 1754
Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

Again, top six schools in county are all AP, not IB.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:28     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
I'd take the rankings with a grain of salt. They only ranked 51 schools in the state out of over 300. Yorktown for instance isn't ranked.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:27     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/rankings

TJ #1
Langley #2
Madison #3
McLean #4
Woodson #5
Oakton #6

Didn't keep scrolling down after the top 10, but Marshall is probably somewhere lower on the list.


Good one but you still haven't addressed the specifics of each school


Would you send an engineering student to William and Mary #32 because it is higher rated than Virginia Tech #69?

There is more specifics to rankings than just taking the highest rated number.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2013 10:27     Subject: Re:Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/rankings

TJ #1
Langley #2
Madison #3
McLean #4
Woodson #5
Oakton #6

Didn't keep scrolling down after the top 10, but Marshall is probably somewhere lower on the list.


Good one but you still haven't addressed the specifics of each school


I see all six of these schools are AP schools. None has IB or has requested IB. FCPS briefly imposed IB at Woodson, but the parents objected and the AP curriculum was restored.