What about the RM parents? Are 50% + NMS in RM non-magnet?

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Nobody is invested in Blair kids NOT doing well. They need to post the results differently, the information is misleading.

How is the information misleading? Blair had this many, this other high school had that many, etc -- right? Why do you want the numbers divided into Magnet Blair and Non-Magnet Blair?

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Anonymous wrote:But WHY do people in Bethesda go nuts? Instead of thinking, for example, "Other kids in Montgomery County public schools are also doing well, yay!"?

PP who posted the question here. THIS is exactly what I would like to know. Why are these people so invested in Blair kids NOT doing well? What is in it for them?

Do they see it as a zero-sum game where only X% of kids can do well, so if Blair kids do well then W kids will not?

Nobody is invested in Blair kids NOT doing well. They need to post the results differently, the information is misleading.

Anonymous wrote:But WHY do people in Bethesda go nuts? Instead of thinking, for example, "Other kids in Montgomery County public schools are also doing well, yay!"?

PP who posted the question here. THIS is exactly what I would like to know. Why are these people so invested in Blair kids NOT doing well? What is in it for them?

Do they see it as a zero-sum game where only X% of kids can do well, so if Blair kids do well then W kids will not?

But WHY do people in Bethesda go nuts? Instead of thinking, for example, "Other kids in Montgomery County public schools are also doing well, yay!"?

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Anonymous wrote:I know at two kids at Blair who are NMSFs who are not in any magnet program. And I know a pretty small sample of kids at Blair!

Well, then we know at least two NMSF kids at Blair are not in the magnet program. It is still possible they are the only two.

And it is possible that they are not.

Can someone please explain to me why so many people (at least on this thread) seem so invested in the Blair non-magnet, non-CAP population not performing as highly as their peers in W schools?

It's not just on this thread. Any time statistical data shows a downcounty school performing well (college admissions, NMSF, etc.) people in Bethesda go nuts. It can be a sport watching this on various threads.

That said, Blair is a much larger school than most or all of the other MCPS high schools, so it having more NMSF both in magnet and out shouldn't come as a total shock.

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Can someone please explain to me why so many people (at least on this thread) seem so invested in the Blair non-magnet, non-CAP population not performing as highly as their peers in W schools?

I would like to know this too.

The charts posted previously don't lie. In the universe of public education, SES is destiny. In light of that reality, all public schools perform more or less the same.

On the other hand, taking your children out of the public-school matrix can make a difference. My children are enrolled in a Catholic parochial school in PG County that is majority-minority and moderate income (low by Washington standards). The kids there average around the 70th percentile on national standardized tests. If you put the same population in any MCPS school, they'd be at about the 50th percentile. From what I've heard from school administrators, these are typical results for the Archdiocesan schools in lower-income, minority communities.

This is why the most highly educated demographic in America, if you cross-tabulate by race and religion, is black Catholics, and why in the Washington metro area, black Catholics, who make up 10% of the African American population, are 50% of the affluent African American population.

Different curriculum, different culture, different results.

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Anonymous wrote:I know at two kids at Blair who are NMSFs who are not in any magnet program. And I know a pretty small sample of kids at Blair!

Well, then we know at least two NMSF kids at Blair are not in the magnet program. It is still possible they are the only two.

And it is possible that they are not.

Can someone please explain to me why so many people (at least on this thread) seem so invested in the Blair non-magnet, non-CAP population not performing as highly as their peers in W schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Then Blair is a better school than Whitman if half of the NMSF kids are not in Magnet.

What about RM? Same?

Blair is much bigger than Whitman and any other county school. I really doubt half the NMSFs are outside the magnets anyway.

I do too. But that pp was adamant.

They are NOT in the general classes.

But to answer the subject of the original post ... Don't you think they are unevenly distributed... yes... they are... but if you attributed the NM to the schools they should attend there would be more in their home school. Schools don't create NM kids, I don't even think they should list the kids school.

I also don't think the schools should list how many NMSF are at their school. It propagates the illusion that some schools are better than others. They all teach the same curriculum. The difference is that higher income families hire tutors for their kids so they are better prepared.

If there was free PSAT prep and encouragement for kids at the schools who did not rank highly on the list, perhaps they would have as many NMSF as the "W" schools.

I don't understand the original poster. Who really think the NMSF kids would be evenly distributed when the test scores among school vary greatly? Is this somehow surprising?

Anonymous wrote:I know at two kids at Blair who are NMSFs who are not in any magnet program. And I know a pretty small sample of kids at Blair!

Well, then we know at least two NMSF kids at Blair are not in the magnet program. It is still possible they are the only two.

Anonymous wrote:I find the W schools realize it has a lot more to do with income, etc but the magnet schools like to lay claim to the NMS as a way to "prove" the program is worth it.

The magnet program deserves even less credit since they got the smartest and most motivated kids.

I know at two kids at Blair who are NMSFs who are not in any magnet program. And I know a pretty small sample of kids at Blair!

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Anonymous wrote:Then Blair is a better school than Whitman if half of the NMSF kids are not in Magnet.

What about RM? Same?

Blair is much bigger than Whitman and any other county school. I really doubt half the NMSFs are outside the magnets anyway.

I do too. But that pp was adamant.

They are NOT in the general classes.

But to answer the subject of the original post ... Don't you think they are unevenly distributed... yes... they are... but if you attributed the NM to the schools they should attend there would be more in their home school. Schools don't create NM kids, I don't even think they should list the kids school.

What is your source for this information?