Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 19:59     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:

A "C" means 70%. In MCPS "C" is an acceptable grade. In fact, if you have 1 "C" in your report card in MS and HS - you can still be on the honor roll.

SO - my question is would a child who mastered 70% of the curriculum get a "P", or do they need to get above 90% (translating to an "A") to be considered "P".

I have seen MS students who are unable to fill simple SSL reflection statements because they cannot string together a simple sentence. So don't give me "They can do it", because they would not be failing so spectacularly if they could do it.




But 70% of what, in elementary school?

Not to mention that ES/P/I/N system is not analogous to the A/B/C/D/F system. They measure different things.

And what middle school students can do is not relevant to the new report card format, I think, given that they never got either the new report card or Curriculum 2.0.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 15:15     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I do have data for my DC from other sources - but I shouldn't be trying to collect data from all these disparate sources and trying to get a sense of where the strengths and weaknesses of my DC lies.

Let me know - "Your child needs to work on punctuation as well as division facts. He/she is not yet proficient in the multiplication table for 7, 8 and 12."

What does "P" mean? Is it a 70%, 80%, 90%, 100% proficiency?



With the previous report cards, which included comments, there may have been teachers who provided comments like this. My children did not have any of these teachers, though.

P means proficient. It means they can do it. I don't understand what 70% proficiency even would be.


A "C" means 70%. In MCPS "C" is an acceptable grade. In fact, if you have 1 "C" in your report card in MS and HS - you can still be on the honor roll.

SO - my question is would a child who mastered 70% of the curriculum get a "P", or do they need to get above 90% (translating to an "A") to be considered "P".

I have seen MS students who are unable to fill simple SSL reflection statements because they cannot string together a simple sentence. So don't give me "They can do it", because they would not be failing so spectacularly if they could do it.


Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 10:31     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
I do have data for my DC from other sources - but I shouldn't be trying to collect data from all these disparate sources and trying to get a sense of where the strengths and weaknesses of my DC lies.

Let me know - "Your child needs to work on punctuation as well as division facts. He/she is not yet proficient in the multiplication table for 7, 8 and 12."

What does "P" mean? Is it a 70%, 80%, 90%, 100% proficiency?



With the previous report cards, which included comments, there may have been teachers who provided comments like this. My children did not have any of these teachers, though.

P means proficient. It means they can do it. I don't understand what 70% proficiency even would be.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 10:28     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
No one gets more than what is fated for them, and nothing comes sooner to you than when it is the right time.


Do what now?
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 09:06     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe some indication that the school actually cares enough to provide comments?


Comments like what, "You have been right all along. Your child is the absolute bestest, most special awesome snowflake ever! We have never seen such a smart, super gifted kid!"
If your child got into an HGC, someone at the school wrote a good recommendation. If your child is recommended for compacted math, the teachers have had input. Your 9 year old has gotten the gold star, brass ring, best MCPS can offer in terms of enrichment opportunity in elementary school. Clearly the school thinks the child is doing well, otherwise those HGC/compacted math spots would have gone to one of the hundreds of other kids clamoring for them. Again, what more do you need?


...so I am thinking that your kid did not get into the HGC ? Please do not get so angry and defensive. I have invested a lot of my time with my kids and they have done well. However in many of these things luck and fate also plays a part.

No one gets more than what is fated for them, and nothing comes sooner to you than when it is the right time.

No my child was a second grader, so she didn't even apply. She is also a very high achiever. I just get sick of all the whining honestly.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 03:44     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rising 4th grader - will be starting HGC.

Home school sent the report card. All P's , No I's or N's. 1 ES.

99 percentile in MAP (s), High achiever in JHU-CTY. Off the chart in Raven and InView in 2nd grade, recommended for compacted 4/5 math...

...and I am left with a report card which is like 80% of other 3rd grader. Why even bother sending out this report card?


But what more do you want from the report card that you don't already have? You have lots of data about your child's cognitive ability and achievement through other sources. Your child is not losing out on differentiation because many others have a similar report card if s/he is got admitted to a HGC and is recommended for compacted math. So, what would a different report get you that you don't already have?


How is the achievement in MAP not reflected in the Math and English scores in the report card? How come a kid who is reading way above grade level as well as doing so well in math that he is at a 99 percentile rank - just proficient? I would accept the P if most of DC's classmate also scored similarly in the MAP.
Why is there such a reluctance to give ES to students and give everyone a P ?

As for JHU-CTY. It is a private source for which I paid money. Can all MCPS parents afford that? DC never takes any classes that CTY offers, but always takes the test because it is a non-MCPS source which allows us to gauge somewhat where DC stands in regard to other kids.

I do have data for my DC from other sources - but I shouldn't be trying to collect data from all these disparate sources and trying to get a sense of where the strengths and weaknesses of my DC lies.

Let me know - "Your child needs to work on punctuation as well as division facts. He/she is not yet proficient in the multiplication table for 7, 8 and 12."

What does "P" mean? Is it a 70%, 80%, 90%, 100% proficiency?

BTW - Teachers write recommendations for HGC only after the kids have passed the 3 sections of the HGC admissions test. They do not write the recommendation in isolation - a whole team sits down and goes through the data they have on the student - inview, Raven, etc... These recommendations can be challenged by parents and so they make sure that their recommendations also have some basis in the data they have. Yes, it is subjective too, but most of the kids who are applying for the HGC and doing well in school/admissions tests are not problem children that will make the teachers write a negative evaluation for them.



At our school the teachers meet before the students take the HGC test.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 00:36     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe some indication that the school actually cares enough to provide comments?


Comments like what, "You have been right all along. Your child is the absolute bestest, most special awesome snowflake ever! We have never seen such a smart, super gifted kid!"
If your child got into an HGC, someone at the school wrote a good recommendation. If your child is recommended for compacted math, the teachers have had input. Your 9 year old has gotten the gold star, brass ring, best MCPS can offer in terms of enrichment opportunity in elementary school. Clearly the school thinks the child is doing well, otherwise those HGC/compacted math spots would have gone to one of the hundreds of other kids clamoring for them. Again, what more do you need?


...so I am thinking that your kid did not get into the HGC ? Please do not get so angry and defensive. I have invested a lot of my time with my kids and they have done well. However in many of these things luck and fate also plays a part.

No one gets more than what is fated for them, and nothing comes sooner to you than when it is the right time.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 00:29     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
...the point is - if the other data sources should clue us about how the student is doing - then there is no need to waste money by sending us a generic report card where everyone most everyone gets a "P".

Instead - send me a certificate saying "Your child has graduated from 3rd grade"

Anonymous
Post 07/04/2013 00:03     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rising 4th grader - will be starting HGC.

Home school sent the report card. All P's , No I's or N's. 1 ES.

99 percentile in MAP (s), High achiever in JHU-CTY. Off the chart in Raven and InView in 2nd grade, recommended for compacted 4/5 math...

...and I am left with a report card which is like 80% of other 3rd grader. Why even bother sending out this report card?


But what more do you want from the report card that you don't already have? You have lots of data about your child's cognitive ability and achievement through other sources. Your child is not losing out on differentiation because many others have a similar report card if s/he is got admitted to a HGC and is recommended for compacted math. So, what would a different report get you that you don't already have?


How is the achievement in MAP not reflected in the Math and English scores in the report card? How come a kid who is reading way above grade level as well as doing so well in math that he is at a 99 percentile rank - just proficient? I would accept the P if most of DC's classmate also scored similarly in the MAP.
Why is there such a reluctance to give ES to students and give everyone a P ?

As for JHU-CTY. It is a private source for which I paid money. Can all MCPS parents afford that? DC never takes any classes that CTY offers, but always takes the test because it is a non-MCPS source which allows us to gauge somewhat where DC stands in regard to other kids.

I do have data for my DC from other sources - but I shouldn't be trying to collect data from all these disparate sources and trying to get a sense of where the strengths and weaknesses of my DC lies.

Let me know - "Your child needs to work on punctuation as well as division facts. He/she is not yet proficient in the multiplication table for 7, 8 and 12."

What does "P" mean? Is it a 70%, 80%, 90%, 100% proficiency?

BTW - Teachers write recommendations for HGC only after the kids have passed the 3 sections of the HGC admissions test. They do not write the recommendation in isolation - a whole team sits down and goes through the data they have on the student - inview, Raven, etc... These recommendations can be challenged by parents and so they make sure that their recommendations also have some basis in the data they have. Yes, it is subjective too, but most of the kids who are applying for the HGC and doing well in school/admissions tests are not problem children that will make the teachers write a negative evaluation for them.

Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 22:26     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Uhm, you guys are conflating posters. I want the school to provide comments but I've posted nothing about my kids. No snowflake issues here. I'm sorry that other poster made you feel defensive.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 21:47     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
There are legitimate reasons for wanting to know more about your child's progress than is reflected in Ps or in standardized test scores.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 21:45     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
She was complaining that her child's report card looked like everyone else's. That is only a problem if she and the school have no other data points to judge the child's progress or make decisions about the child's need for differentiated instruction - neither of which seems to be the case. Then she claims to want to see that the school cares. Well again, someone cared enough to write recommendations, and to ensure her child gets the most enriched opportunities currently available in MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 21:36     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe some indication that the school actually cares enough to provide comments?


Comments like what, "You have been right all along. Your child is the absolute bestest, most special awesome snowflake ever! We have never seen such a smart, super gifted kid!"
If your child got into an HGC, someone at the school wrote a good recommendation. If your child is recommended for compacted math, the teachers have had input. Your 9 year old has gotten the gold star, brass ring, best MCPS can offer in terms of enrichment opportunity in elementary school. Clearly the school thinks the child is doing well, otherwise those HGC/compacted math spots would have gone to one of the hundreds of other kids clamoring for them. Again, what more do you need?

PP is using her child as an extreme example of the absurdity of 2.0 report cards.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 21:20     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:Maybe some indication that the school actually cares enough to provide comments?


Comments like what, "You have been right all along. Your child is the absolute bestest, most special awesome snowflake ever! We have never seen such a smart, super gifted kid!"
If your child got into an HGC, someone at the school wrote a good recommendation. If your child is recommended for compacted math, the teachers have had input. Your 9 year old has gotten the gold star, brass ring, best MCPS can offer in terms of enrichment opportunity in elementary school. Clearly the school thinks the child is doing well, otherwise those HGC/compacted math spots would have gone to one of the hundreds of other kids clamoring for them. Again, what more do you need?
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2013 20:23     Subject: Did you get a report card for your MCPS Elementary School kid yet?
Anonymous wrote:Maybe some indication that the school actually cares enough to provide comments?


You want comments on the report card as a sign that the school cares?

(I'd hold out for flowers or chocolate.)