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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Maybe you could have Jeff resurrect DCUM as a list serve with access restricted to those who provide valid proof of DC residency.

Until then, deal with it, asshat.

Well, given the name of the site is "DC Urban Moms and Dads" you'd think people would be smart enough to figure that out on their own. Oh well, in a country where half the high school students can't find Canada on a map, and the parents are significantly less savvy, what are you gonna do?

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Anonymous wrote:Yay for you, OP. I am super thrilled that you are happy with where you live. But not everyone can afford to live in Kent/SV. Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway and drive 40 minutes or take the Orange Line to downtown DC. We make that trade off so that our kids can have safe neighborhoods and good schools. Stop being so elitist.

Just curious - are you in a condo/townhouse? Or are you one of those people who "can't afford" to live in the city because you simply must have 4+ bedrooms, a sun parlor, etc?

I love the implication that really cool, virtuous, GOOD people must continue to live in cramped quarters as long as they are within city limits instead of decamping to, SHUDDER, suburbs that are a better match for the real needs of their family, which do not include racking up UrbanCool(TM) points.

No, that's not the implication at all. Good people - and douchebags - live everywhere. The point is that ALL of us make choices, trade-offs and sacrifices. Those of us who live in the city often sacrifice square footage, outside space, etc. because other things are more important. To others, big houses and yards are more important than the convenience of living in the city. Each of those choices is fine - until you start whining that "Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway." Then, you're a child who just can't take responsibility for your own life and choices. It's an unattractive quality in an elementary school child; it's intolerable in an adult.

You must be reading this through a different lens. To me, "we can't afford to live inside the Beltway" isn't whining, it's the statement of facts as they are. And I also don't think it should come with a fine print of "can't afford a single family house with a backyard and good schools in SV but yeah, could totally swing a 1-br in Trinidad". I've frequently told people we couldn't afford to stay in DC and I don't believe it qualified as whining, it's simply an accurate statement that what I could get in the city no longer meets my needs.

As a side note, I haven't read many comments from 1-br urban dwellers lecturing suburbanites on their overall lack of coolness. Typically, these diatribes come from self-proclaimed owners in AU Park, Spring Valley and others comfortably situated enclaves.

ah yes, the people who want to claim DC but who are too scared to actually live in it

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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Exurb is anywhere more than 1km from the District line.

exurb is outside of the beltway

Rockville is an exurb? Half of Silver Spring is an exurb? No.

If it takes an hour and a half to drive there from the Capitol, it's an exurb.

it doesnt take an hour and a half

I used to commute from Capitol Hill to Rockville and it took between 1 and 1.5 hours if i left between 7 and 9 in the morning. Same thing on the return trip. Didn't matter if I took NY Ave, GW Parkway, or North Cap Street. I know this for a fact because I'm still undergoing counseling for the PTSD.

PP, your problem was the time you were leaving. The key is to leave by 6:30 a.m.; most people in the Rockville area and north are well aware of that. You waited until prime rush-hour time.

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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Exurb is anywhere more than 1km from the District line.

exurb is outside of the beltway

Rockville is an exurb? Half of Silver Spring is an exurb? No.

If it takes an hour and a half to drive there from the Capitol, it's an exurb.

it doesnt take an hour and a half

I used to commute from Capitol Hill to Rockville and it took between 1 and 1.5 hours if i left between 7 and 9 in the morning. Same thing on the return trip. Didn't matter if I took NY Ave, GW Parkway, or North Cap Street. I know this for a fact because I'm still undergoing counseling for the PTSD.

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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Exurb is anywhere more than 1km from the District line.

exurb is outside of the beltway

Rockville is an exurb? Half of Silver Spring is an exurb? No.

If it takes an hour and a half to drive there from the Capitol, it's an exurb.

it doesnt take an hour and a half

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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Exurb is anywhere more than 1km from the District line.

exurb is outside of the beltway

Rockville is an exurb? Half of Silver Spring is an exurb? No.

If it takes an hour and a half to drive there from the Capitol, it's an exurb.

It may take you as long to drive to Palisades or Spring Valley from the Capitol, so sign them up, too.

I just might.

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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Exurb is anywhere more than 1km from the District line.

exurb is outside of the beltway

Rockville is an exurb? Half of Silver Spring is an exurb? No.

If it takes an hour and a half to drive there from the Capitol, it's an exurb.

It may take you as long to drive to Palisades or Spring Valley from the Capitol, so sign them up, too.

Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Maybe you could have Jeff resurrect DCUM as a list serve with access restricted to those who provide valid proof of DC residency.

Until then, deal with it, asshat.

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Anonymous wrote:I fucking hate the posters that are blathering on about Pimmit Hills, the Mosaic District and Dunn Loring in almost every thread, but I disagree with your characterization of those as exurbs. Those are classic suburbs; exurbs are further out (think Loudoun County, or Clarksburg in MD.)

And PP is totally right - I love the posts from the people who can't hack the stress of living in say, Annandale.

Exurb is anywhere more than 1km from the District line.

exurb is outside of the beltway

Rockville is an exurb? Half of Silver Spring is an exurb? No.

If it takes an hour and a half to drive there from the Capitol, it's an exurb.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay for you, OP. I am super thrilled that you are happy with where you live. But not everyone can afford to live in Kent/SV. Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway and drive 40 minutes or take the Orange Line to downtown DC. We make that trade off so that our kids can have safe neighborhoods and good schools. Stop being so elitist.

Just curious - are you in a condo/townhouse? Or are you one of those people who "can't afford" to live in the city because you simply must have 4+ bedrooms, a sun parlor, etc?

I love the implication that really cool, virtuous, GOOD people must continue to live in cramped quarters as long as they are within city limits instead of decamping to, SHUDDER, suburbs that are a better match for the real needs of their family, which do not include racking up UrbanCool(TM) points.

And who makes you an authority about the needs of my family or every other family? You are making a lot of assumptions here. If you need 6000 sq.ft I certainly don't.

3000 sqrft + basement is standard for first world upper middle class families

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Anonymous wrote:Yay for you, OP. I am super thrilled that you are happy with where you live. But not everyone can afford to live in Kent/SV. Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway and drive 40 minutes or take the Orange Line to downtown DC. We make that trade off so that our kids can have safe neighborhoods and good schools. Stop being so elitist.

Just curious - are you in a condo/townhouse? Or are you one of those people who "can't afford" to live in the city because you simply must have 4+ bedrooms, a sun parlor, etc?

I love the implication that really cool, virtuous, GOOD people must continue to live in cramped quarters as long as they are within city limits instead of decamping to, SHUDDER, suburbs that are a better match for the real needs of their family, which do not include racking up UrbanCool(TM) points.

No, that's not the implication at all. Good people - and douchebags - live everywhere. The point is that ALL of us make choices, trade-offs and sacrifices. Those of us who live in the city often sacrifice square footage, outside space, etc. because other things are more important. To others, big houses and yards are more important than the convenience of living in the city. Each of those choices is fine - until you start whining that "Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway." Then, you're a child who just can't take responsibility for your own life and choices. It's an unattractive quality in an elementary school child; it's intolerable in an adult.

You must be reading this through a different lens. To me, "we can't afford to live inside the Beltway" isn't whining, it's the statement of facts as they are. And I also don't think it should come with a fine print of "can't afford a single family house with a backyard and good schools in SV but yeah, could totally swing a 1-br in Trinidad". I've frequently told people we couldn't afford to stay in DC and I don't believe it qualified as whining, it's simply an accurate statement that what I could get in the city no longer meets my needs.

As a side note, I haven't read many comments from 1-br urban dwellers lecturing suburbanites on their overall lack of coolness. Typically, these diatribes come from self-proclaimed owners in AU Park, Spring Valley and others comfortably situated enclaves.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay for you, OP. I am super thrilled that you are happy with where you live. But not everyone can afford to live in Kent/SV. Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway and drive 40 minutes or take the Orange Line to downtown DC. We make that trade off so that our kids can have safe neighborhoods and good schools. Stop being so elitist.

Just curious - are you in a condo/townhouse? Or are you one of those people who "can't afford" to live in the city because you simply must have 4+ bedrooms, a sun parlor, etc?

I love the implication that really cool, virtuous, GOOD people must continue to live in cramped quarters as long as they are within city limits instead of decamping to, SHUDDER, suburbs that are a better match for the real needs of their family, which do not include racking up UrbanCool(TM) points.

And who makes you an authority about the needs of my family or every other family? You are making a lot of assumptions here. If you need 6000 sq.ft I certainly don't.

If that does not describe the needs of your family, then this comment is clearly not about you.

Anonymous wrote:Yay for you, OP. I am super thrilled that you are happy with where you live. But not everyone can afford to live in Kent/SV. Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway and drive 40 minutes or take the Orange Line to downtown DC. We make that trade off so that our kids can have safe neighborhoods and good schools. Stop being so elitist.

+100 and I live in AU Park--the supposedly desirable in city suburb. Some of my neighbors are wonderful and some are absolute boors. Same as anywhere. When the kids were all under 6 (we have 4) we actually used to eat out in Adams Morgan, Dupont, etc. way more often because kids menu. Now that we have a couple of middle schoolers that just shovel so much food in, honestly we barely eat out more than once a week. It's too expensive and I like to cook.

Anonymous wrote:some of us only have one because our bodies won't allow us to reproduce again, so the special snowflake singleton remark is offensive on MANY levels

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Yay for you, OP. I am super thrilled that you are happy with where you live. But not everyone can afford to live in Kent/SV. Some of us can only afford to live outside the Beltway and drive 40 minutes or take the Orange Line to downtown DC. We make that trade off so that our kids can have safe neighborhoods and good schools. Stop being so elitist.

Just curious - are you in a condo/townhouse? Or are you one of those people who "can't afford" to live in the city because you simply must have 4+ bedrooms, a sun parlor, etc?

I love the implication that really cool, virtuous, GOOD people must continue to live in cramped quarters as long as they are within city limits instead of decamping to, SHUDDER, suburbs that are a better match for the real needs of their family, which do not include racking up UrbanCool(TM) points.

And who makes you an authority about the needs of my family or every other family? You are making a lot of assumptions here. If you need 6000 sq.ft I certainly don't.