Anonymous
Post 04/09/2015 07:52     Subject: Re:Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:I sold my home through a traditional agent because I needed help staging and calling in repairs. I needed someone dedicated to selling my home quick. The redfin agent we met for selling seemed disinterested. For selling, traditional agents seem to do more than traditional agents for buying.

So if I were buying, I would use redfin. Selling, use a traditional agent.


We had a very different experience selling with Redfin. The agent was very quick to recommend a repair person and even a cleaning person that could come same or next day for us. Our agent was very very good and had a lot of experience and resources at her fingertips. I’ve bought and sold with Redfin and both times had positive experiences. I think it’s more of an agent to agent thing rather than a Redfin vs. Traditional thing.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 15:16     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people get too hung up on the possibility of saving on the commission that they don't see the forest for the trees.

If a really good agent at a traditional firm can get you $25,000 more for your home than a Redfin agent, saving $10,000 on commission doesn't seem as appealing.


I call poopy cock on this.


You're vulgar and disgusting. Do you work for Redfin? Or are you representative of a Redfin client?

Poopy cock? Really?


I'm sure it was a typo and they meant poppy cock. Chill.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 15:10     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have heard that if you work with Redfin, you might see one agent initially, another at the home inspection, and yet another person at the settlement table. I.e., you don't work with one person continuously through the process. I don't know whether or not that's true or whether it once was, or what. But if it's the case, it would be a huge turnoff for me. I wouldn't want my needs handed off from agent to agent like a baton. Too much opportunity for something to fall through the cracks.


Actually it means nothing falls through the cracks. You're no longer dependent on your agent's schedule and it revolves around yours instead.


So, you're saying this is how they do it? You never see the same person twice?

No, thanks.


That's not true. I am currently working with Redfin on the selling and buying side. On the selling side I have only worked with one agent. The only time she sent someone else was for the open house and this is done by traditional firms, as well.

On the buying side, you have a primary agent, but you may do home tours with one of their associate agents. However, your main agent is the one that follows up with you, liaises with the sellers agent, and processes your offer. The associate agents only help with the showings so that you can see a home whenever it's convenient for you, in case your primary agent is already booked.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:00     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:You must think all Redfin agents are superior, then. By your reasoning, the odds of getting a competent Redfin agent are 1 in 10 as well.

A good agent is a good agent. The brokerage and business model it follows is immaterial, and obsessing over whether you get some commission rebated instead of what price you'll negotiate is like buying a car based on a monthly payment that fits your budget.


Huh? By what reasoning can you assume only 1 in 10 redfin agents are competent? That sounds like a big stretch. Many real estate agents are competent, I was talking about the "super" agents being 1 in 10. The other 9 out of 10 will likely end up at the same price.

Who said don't negotiate? I'd say you're doing a better job tearing that straw man to shreds than you are tearing the redfin model to shreds. Please try again.

Clearly you're mathetmatically challeneged. My point was that guaranteed money is the smart move rather than some BS hocus pocus most agents will try to sell you about their master negotiating skills. Seen it myself a handful of times. Next transaction will be redfin for me.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 16:08     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming some super agent COULD get an extra $25k (which is rather dubious honestly), but let's roll with it for the sake of argument..

Say the odds of getting a "really good agent" are 1 in 10. That's 10% (odds might be lower in reality, but what the heck, we'll round up). So out of "population" of 10 people, 1 person saves 25,000 with said super agent while 9 people save nothing (or 2500 collectively over 10 people), while with the guaranteed discount each person saves $10k, and the group collectively saves 100k.

For all but the mathematically challenged, the choice should be obvious. Of course, a lot of people play the lottery, so obviously a vast number of people aren't the sharpest of folks. :p


You must think all Redfin agents are superior, then. By your reasoning, the odds of getting a competent Redfin agent are 1 in 10 as well.

A good agent is a good agent. The brokerage and business model it follows is immaterial, and obsessing over whether you get some commission rebated instead of what price you'll negotiate is like buying a car based on a monthly payment that fits your budget.




I'm not a realtor. As for marketing, well, pro-tip: If you're going to choose a stupid meme like the one you chose to make a point about marketing, perhaps choose one that knows the difference between "your" and "you're."
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:35     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming some super agent COULD get an extra $25k (which is rather dubious honestly), but let's roll with it for the sake of argument..

Say the odds of getting a "really good agent" are 1 in 10. That's 10% (odds might be lower in reality, but what the heck, we'll round up). So out of "population" of 10 people, 1 person saves 25,000 with said super agent while 9 people save nothing (or 2500 collectively over 10 people), while with the guaranteed discount each person saves $10k, and the group collectively saves 100k.

For all but the mathematically challenged, the choice should be obvious. Of course, a lot of people play the lottery, so obviously a vast number of people aren't the sharpest of folks. :p


You must think all Redfin agents are superior, then. By your reasoning, the odds of getting a competent Redfin agent are 1 in 10 as well.

A good agent is a good agent. The brokerage and business model it follows is immaterial, and obsessing over whether you get some commission rebated instead of what price you'll negotiate is like buying a car based on a monthly payment that fits your budget.


Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:14     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:Assuming some super agent COULD get an extra $25k (which is rather dubious honestly), but let's roll with it for the sake of argument..

Say the odds of getting a "really good agent" are 1 in 10. That's 10% (odds might be lower in reality, but what the heck, we'll round up). So out of "population" of 10 people, 1 person saves 25,000 with said super agent while 9 people save nothing (or 2500 collectively over 10 people), while with the guaranteed discount each person saves $10k, and the group collectively saves 100k.

For all but the mathematically challenged, the choice should be obvious. Of course, a lot of people play the lottery, so obviously a vast number of people aren't the sharpest of folks. :p


You must think all Redfin agents are superior, then. By your reasoning, the odds of getting a competent Redfin agent are 1 in 10 as well.

A good agent is a good agent. The brokerage and business model it follows is immaterial, and obsessing over whether you get some commission rebated instead of what price you'll negotiate is like buying a car based on a monthly payment that fits your budget.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:08     Subject: Redfin experience?
Assuming some super agent COULD get an extra $25k (which is rather dubious honestly), but let's roll with it for the sake of argument..

Say the odds of getting a "really good agent" are 1 in 10. That's 10% (odds might be lower in reality, but what the heck, we'll round up). So out of "population" of 10 people, 1 person saves 25,000 with said super agent while 9 people save nothing (or 2500 collectively over 10 people), while with the guaranteed discount each person saves $10k, and the group collectively saves 100k.

For all but the mathematically challenged, the choice should be obvious. Of course, a lot of people play the lottery, so obviously a vast number of people aren't the sharpest of folks. :p
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:04     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:We sold a Fairfax home to a buyer with Redfin. Absolutely worst experience of our lives - the home inspector left our home with the garage breaker off, detailed problems that didn't exist (ha ha, missed some big problems!) and the Redfin realtor was a cajoling bully that drug out the sale and made it into a nightmare. I would chew off my foot before I bought or sold a home with a Redfin realtor in Northern VA. They think they are the sharpest, but we had to correct the offer to NOT include stuff that wasn't on the listing (Washer & Dryer???), there were lots of 'gotchas' so the buyer was happy with the realtor, it was an unethical nightmare. RUN AWAY FROM REDFIN!!!! Especially in Fairfax County!!!!


-home inspectors are not redfin employees. This is just a bad inspector. Who was it?
- W/D often convey
- If there were many gotchas, what were the sellers trying to hide??

I am buying with Redfin and my agent has been good so far. We have worked and bought with three others before him. I don't notice much difference.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:02     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people get too hung up on the possibility of saving on the commission that they don't see the forest for the trees.

If a really good agent at a traditional firm can get you $25,000 more for your home than a Redfin agent, saving $10,000 on commission doesn't seem as appealing.


A "really good agent" cannot inflate the market value of your asset.


A really good agent finds the best buyer for your house, who is often the one who pays more.

There are stats and track records on agents, average length of time from list to close, and average price, among other things. Your assertion that all agents are inherently the same is laughable. And for the record, marketing ROUTINELY inflates the value of assets of all sorts.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:01     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:If a really good agent at a traditional firm can get you $25,000 more for your home than a Redfin agent, saving $10,000 on commission doesn't seem as appealing.


This statement is funny. It's like saying "if you didn't play the lottery and your coworkers won, you'd look like a fool." You gotta beat the one in a billion odds of winning first, then worry about looking the fool. The smart person doesn't play the lottery.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 15:00     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:I think people get too hung up on the possibility of saving on the commission that they don't see the forest for the trees.

If a really good agent at a traditional firm can get you $25,000 more for your home than a Redfin agent, saving $10,000 on commission doesn't seem as appealing.


A "really good agent" cannot inflate the market value of your asset.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 14:50     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people get too hung up on the possibility of saving on the commission that they don't see the forest for the trees.

If a really good agent at a traditional firm can get you $25,000 more for your home than a Redfin agent, saving $10,000 on commission doesn't seem as appealing.


I call poopy cock on this.


You're vulgar and disgusting. Do you work for Redfin? Or are you representative of a Redfin client?

Poopy cock? Really?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 14:27     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have heard that if you work with Redfin, you might see one agent initially, another at the home inspection, and yet another person at the settlement table. I.e., you don't work with one person continuously through the process. I don't know whether or not that's true or whether it once was, or what. But if it's the case, it would be a huge turnoff for me. I wouldn't want my needs handed off from agent to agent like a baton. Too much opportunity for something to fall through the cracks.


Actually it means nothing falls through the cracks. You're no longer dependent on your agent's schedule and it revolves around yours instead.


So, you're saying this is how they do it? You never see the same person twice?

No, thanks.


Most traditional realtors send out their minions to do everything they just lead you on until you sign the exclusive contract.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 14:23     Subject: Redfin experience?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have heard that if you work with Redfin, you might see one agent initially, another at the home inspection, and yet another person at the settlement table. I.e., you don't work with one person continuously through the process. I don't know whether or not that's true or whether it once was, or what. But if it's the case, it would be a huge turnoff for me. I wouldn't want my needs handed off from agent to agent like a baton. Too much opportunity for something to fall through the cracks.


Actually it means nothing falls through the cracks. You're no longer dependent on your agent's schedule and it revolves around yours instead.


So, you're saying this is how they do it? You never see the same person twice?

No, thanks.


You can work with your realtor the whole time. If they have a conflict they will either try to schedule the inspection for a different time or ask you if you'd like another agent. FWIW I had the same agent throughout selling. When I bought, I had a different agent open the door every time. When we were ready to make an offer, we worked with one agent the entire time.